Why do trumpfags believe the trade deficit myth? Don't you understand comparative advantage...

Why do trumpfags believe the trade deficit myth? Don't you understand comparative advantage? When we make less stuff than we receive that's a WIN. Also factory jobs and unskilled labor jobs are shit. Do you guys really want to work on a fucking assembly line all day? Learn to work smart and leave the labor jobs to the foreigners.

Good point. Your post has switched my vote from Trump to Hillary - the only true outsider candidate that will fight the Wall Street elites.

Factory Jobs and assembly lines built this country's middle class, they are nearly gone, and so is the middle class.

The factory jobs have just been replaced with more retail and delivery jobs here in the US. People didn't suddenly need to stop working because they were rolling around in money doing nothing.

Trump is just appealing to butthurt anons whose dads lost their nice factory jobs a while ago and want a happy life with a stable income and a white picket fence. It's not a policy -- it's just a twitter-level meme that appeals to political nostalgia. It's not informed at all by economics research and no one wants to turn the US again into a nation of low-paid factory workers making trinkets. This is one of many points where Trump doesn't have a meaningful future vision but he does have a way of connecting with the emotions of the poorly educated and of butthurt faggot anons. It's also why it would be really fucking damaging if Trump got elected -- he's too stupid and irresponsible and he makes up meme-level policies on the spot because he thinks they sound good. This appeals to the more autistic and stupid among us, and hence his popularity on Sup Forums.

Stuff wears out faster than money. That's the long con. It's an unsustainable a destabilizing dynamic for any nation.

I've never seen this argument before, but I must say that it is quite interesting. I will now say that I no longer support Trump and will vote for Hillary in October.

>muh wall street
even worse

this is a good thing. The reason the service industry is thriving is because people have more free time to indulge themselves which in turn makes more jobs

Good point, my American brother. All this time I supported Trump, but you have now converted me and I will vote for Hillary in November.

Thanks, faggot. And seriously, the US does not need millions of factories with low-skilled workers making disposable shit we don't need. It needs to be a high-tech economy based on education, innovation, service industries, and the most advanced manufacturing possible. Whoever is going to be president should be stating this clearly.

>hey guise I took microecon 101!
come back when you take macro 101

propping up inefficient american works with tariffs paid by american consumers is sustainable?

Not everyone is smart. Max capacity of educated population is 25-35% tops. Unlike nonwhites, the white working class still has a sense of honor and ethics. We don't want to become an Chinese-style dog-eat-dog society (pun intended). America could have followed the footsteps of Japan and retained its manufacturing while keeping a high living standard and national pride.

now THIS is autism

This is a very subtle troll thread. A true art form. Nice work, OP.

>Nobody is being paid to shill for Hillary by the way, 0.02 cents has been deposited to your adsense account etc, etc

Comparative advantage usually means you can produce more of A compared to B, then you import B and make more of A. Too bad we don't make anything anymore.

Well his first line of bargaining is restricting the freedom of sending money out of the US to Mexico by checking that the sender is a legal citizen. Mexico has no gibmebucks, or at least nearly as much as we do. That should pay for the wall but if not, if trade in America is so vital to Mexico (it is) then a tariff would force them to either take the cost or build the wall.

Regarding China, I don't believe they are participating in free trade with us. They buy up unlimited amounts of land here, send their stuff here, then they have the nerve to block any American goods from entering their market. Going as far to manipulate their currency to keep theirs on top of ours in China. I understand that a country subsidizing an export can help us in the long run, but this is just bullshit.

Also don't use the "people won't work in those jobs" arguments, it's the same argument that was used to justify slavery. Pay a fair wage and legal citizens will work, it may not be white people but legal immigrants may find those jobs appealing.

Works for China.

Which Macro econ class did you take? I need to enroll in some classes.

>Max capacity of educated population is 25-35% tops

do you have any proof of this or is it strait from your ass?

This is some great info indeed. You've changed my perspective, and I vow to support Hillary from this point forward.

>Comparative advantage usually means you can produce more


no, it means that someone else can make the same shit you do for less cost

To add, you misread why Trump is popular. The job creation, I'm going to save the economy speak is just for the average Joe. Most of his support comes from his toughness and that he represents a big fuck you to establishment insiders, lobbyists, Islam and illegal immigration. His support is largely from a cultural stance.

you think you do but you don't

Then you use your resources to make something else and fill in what country B is lacking. Except we don't make anything.

I believe this but many, MANY people support him for restricting trade and putting factories back in the US. And if he goes to tariffs that's strait up socialism. American consumers will be forced to pay more to pay inefficient workers just because they are american. It's redistribution

>Then you use your resources to make something else

OR we could just enjoy our leisure and freedom from labor and innovate, invent and entertain like we're already doing.

There are two reasons why you're wrong:
1. The relationship is not a relationship of free trade. The relationship is a one sided free trade agreement, and we're on the losing end.

2. Many people don't have the iq to do many of the "new economy jobs" and flounder at McDonald's or wherever they end up.

Of course you would say this. You probably just got done reading International Economics by Paul Krugman.

>Muh theory.
>Muh comparative advantage.

Free trade increases efficiency, but it may not increase welfare for everyone. The losers need to be compensated. Welfare as compensation is not a solution. Those who lose their jobs want to work - and its hard to imagine Joe six-pack is going to retrain as a skilled worker and become an accountant in the services sector.

Yeah, American economy should be built on consumption and wishful thinking.

Not, you know, physical stuff.

Man you would like my Macro professor. Let every white guy who couldn't be an engineer starve, it's good for the GDP!

Yes costs will obviously go up, but it sounds like from the voters that they want manufacturing to come back to America. The only thing stopping us from building shit here is that Mexico does it for nothing.

Cities have been almost destroyed by factories leaving, and looking at Chicago and Detroit it looks like the Sowell approved solution ("Go find another job") isn't really working out.

You mean invite people over to do the higher skill jobs for a fraction of the pay, with H1Bs. I know the standard theory that people losing their jobs is a good thing since it means innovation, but when foreigners are flooding the Graduate degree programs at a higher rate than American citizens that doesn't bode well for the average Joe.

Low skill will be flooded by immigrants if globalists have their way, and service industry can coast off of students getting useless degrees since Pahjeet will do it for less. Higher education is flooded by African immigrants, Asian immigrants, Indian immigrants, everybody but white America. I still hear this lie that employers just "can't find tech professionals anymore, we need H1Bs!" while Computer Science is one of the most popular degrees today.

And everyone can't be a Engineer so I guess all that's left is sales and management, which is being crippled by nepotism and affirmative action.

Detroit was destroyed by the unions and leaders who simply refused to accept that japan makes better cars than the US. It is a tragic tale of wishful thinking.

If you buy into the idea that it's totally OK for Americans to pay more of thier own money for the same good just because it's made by a certain group you are a socialist. You believe in wealth redistribution for the common good. That's a fine position to have with many supporters but it's wrong and although the voters many agree with it the consumers, who vastly outnumber the voters, obviously would rather have more affordable good and more free time.

This is why I rarely come to Sup Forums.
>me: the most advanced manufacturing possible
>you: this is not physical stuff

The level of retardation here is often funny, but sometimes just annoyingly stupid. Learn to read, user! Also, this level of stupidity is how Trump is able to get away with meme-level policies that he makes up on the spot with no research or deep inquiry. He's the outcome of the shallow, thoughtless stupidity that we've let the media environment become.

>If you buy into the idea that it's totally OK for Americans to pay more of thier own money for the same good just because it's made by a certain group you are a socialist. You believe in wealth redistribution for the common good


Look, he thinks he's people!