Is Ronda Rousey the biggest fraud in sports history?

Is Ronda Rousey the biggest fraud in sports history?

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lance armstrong

She was honestly dominant when the field consisted of her and some angry soccer moms.

Her career can be summed up by the first act of Rocky 3.

She was champ
She got arrogant
She had open trainings for the media
Couldnt back it up against Holly Holme

But unlike the third act she didnt get the title back.

Is OP the biggest casual in Sup Forums history?

She was always ill-equipped for UFC from the start. All she ever had was her grappling, Holm exposed that for all to see.

She's a fraud in UFC, but she's not a fraud when it comes to judo.

>12-0 a year ago
>fraud
Ok

No, but her "coach" might be

Here he is showing off his wushu skills, to a easily impressed young Ronda
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxk41lINCq8

She's not a fraud but she's very one note. The standard of women's MMA has risen dramatically in the last few years and hers hasn't.

It's very possible that Anderson or Forrest or anybody from 5-10 years ago wouldn't cut it today. Look at what Garbrandt did to Cruz. The calibre of the sport in general is constantly rising but particularly so in MMA.

She ain't a fraud, she's just outdated.

Also, her clown of a tax cheat/fraudster coach (he was literally caught with multiple IDs and credit cards), seems to think she's a striker. At the beginning of the audio leak you can hear him telling her to make Nunes throw and miss

Exactly.

For anyone interested, Rogan, Joey Diaz, Schaub and Bravo are breaking down the UFC live right now

youtube.com/watch?v=l5rwIv41ACM

UFC Women's was Ronda and a bunch of nobodies that ran right into her grapples. The pool of talent is deeper now and people know she's a one-trick pony.

No, she won an olympic medal in Judo and did beat some good fighters during her reign. But she has no answer for good striking thanks to her fraud of a coach.

So she was the best and now shes not? That doesnt make you a fraud. Is tom brady a fraud?

eli manning is a fraud

history? not quite.

the ufc women's bantamweight division? yep.

Martial Arts is not for showing off but for practical self-defense. You train but it's not for offense. It is to learn and master. This is why a lot of masters don't teach non-Asians. They completely miss the point.

She was the shiniest turd congrats

It wasn't that she was "the best," she was just competing in MMA when she had no business competing in MMA. She was lucky that there was so little talent in women's MMA at the time. Had there been talent, she would have never been hyped up in the first place.

Hall of fame qb bud

I love listening to casuals post lol. She has an olympic medal its not like shes kimbo slice knockin around trailer park girls in parking lots. Let me guess bow the olympics have no talent?

>She has an olympic medal
A bronze in Judo from 9 years ago, not MMA.

Judo is all she knows and Judo by itself is ill-equipped for MMA.

She was marketed and built to be champion. Had a bunch of no talent opponents in a pretty new sport for women, Dana was and is still her bitch who gives her special preferential treatment. She's a baby who doesn't learn and is incapable of adapting to the now built pool of real talented fighters not just models who are getting in the ring for the lulz and exposure. She's easily the most over hyped fighter of all time and probably athlete. The media was so excited to push a badass chick she was on all the networks getting her ass kissed and was considered by a bunch of these fag sport commentators as the best fighter ever after only 12 (twelve) fights.

Judo by itself can get you 12 wins and make you the most marketable fighter on earth

We should take a table tennis gold medalist and put her in with Nunez or Holmes should do well being a gold medal Olympic athlete and all.

>only 12 fights
>only
Thats like saying durant is hyped after only playing 10 seasons

Yes because ping pong is a combat sport. Brilliant analogy

Bruce Jenner

Are you retarded? 10 seasons of how many games in a completely different sport? Most guys don't get a championship shot with 12 wins. She was being compared to a 40-0 mayweather lol.

>most marketerable fighter on earth

ronda rousey is the product of ufc's over promotion of certain fighters.
ufc is far more unpredictable than boxing ever was and far more political.

Nobody outside of this board of casuals ever drew that comparison. 12 fights is half a career for even the ones that stick around. Ufc has no 40 bout fighters

Oh you just mentioned her Olympic medal as if that makes her competitive against world class boxers and jujitsu specialists. Yeah she's good at judo but not even in the same league as real fighters who are finding their way into the relatively new women's division of mma.

She was totally overhyped though. I wouldn't call her a fraud, but she was crushing cans when the division was very young. Once more talent joined up she couldn't compete with superior strikers. Her striking never really was that great. Holly Holm comes in, and she's a professional boxer, totally fucks her up.

Then Amanda Nunes, another pretty good striker who has a lot of power in her hits, absolutely destroys Ronda in only 48 seconds.

The division evolved and she couldn't adapt. She kept her shitty coach who didn't teach her anything. When someone loses as bad as she did to Holm, the coach would want to improve on those weaknesses. Edmond, her coach has killed other peoples careers as well, most notably besides Ronda, Travis Browne.

She's great at judo, but that's about it. If she wants to continue in the UFC, she needs to fire Edmond.

luckiest ever

It's basically the inferiority complex vs boxing they've always had.

They're desperate for a true great like Ali, Joe Louis, etc to put them over the top.

naw she was actually a champion

im going with cam newton or collin kaepernick

Active fighter? Ya. Mcgregor could be close but i dont see him in any hollywood flicks

I'm listening right now, Based Joey Diaz brought up the "Thank You Edmond" video. I thought they were gonna start trashing Edmond, but they didn't. I was sort of disappointed because they can talk about how awful the fighters have been under him.

Shes still the best grappler in the sport. If she didnt fight like a retard she would have her belt back. Yes she has inferior striking. Thats a far cry from saying shes a fraud

there are no greats anymore because the playing field is no longer level, there is no fairness. it's all money, which makes this type of shit so corrupt.

no, rousey is no where near mcgregor.

I still like what she did for MMA regardless, but I don't like the seemingly popular notion that she was the first catalyst for women's MMA. That goes to Miesha Tate.

holm is also fucking garbage when it comes to mma

her debut fight was hilariously unimpressive. her fight against ronda was more ronda being fucking retarded than it was holm being a good mma fighter

Sure but who gave a fuck about it until Ronda made her splash ?

Lightning doesnt strike twice bucko. Hell get his 3rd this year when alex smith is exposed in the superb owl

>best grappler

lol what a worthless title

She was given s title shot after how many fights though? 5? when was the last time that happened in the ufc?

because he declined the ones he was supposed to be in in favor of focusing on his rematch with nate

I guess sponsors feel the same as me seeing as she makes way more off endorsements and movies

So hes more marketable because he refuses to be marketed? How fucking retarded are you to think shit like this up

Her ppv numbers get killed by Connor, Silva, Jones, gsp

No, pic related is.

I mean if 6 title defenses and an olympic medal is worthless then ya i guess. What a fraud huh
She was winning fights in less than a minute. It was pretty obvious she was the best

lance armstrong is but everyone else is roiding anyways so who gives a fuck

>Judo by itself can get you 12 wins
Against nobodies with no talent, sure.

>and make you the most marketable fighter on earth
Oh, you're retarded. Nevermind then.

>holm is also fucking garbage when it comes to mma
I agree, but Holm shone a spotlight on Rousey's crippling weakness, she knows nothing other than grappling.

Women's mma, like all women's sports, is a huge meme. Literally a woman cannot be a fraud, because you can't expect her to be great.

Rousey sold over a million ppv only conor does that and hes nowhere near as saturated in pop culture. Last weeks fight hasnt been reported but its probly in the 1.3 neighborhood compared to conors 1.6 record

A whole six defenses against who again? Most notable fighter is meisha Tate. It's like when Titi Ortiz just kept beating the shit out of ken shamrock. Not impressed by a fighter who beats a lot of scrubs. If she would have beat holm and lost to Nunez that would have been a major testament to her being a legitimately great fighter. She's not she was just one of the first.

The owner of the ufc says ronda is the biggest star. She has way more fans and endorsements. How is she not more marketable?

Nobody was ever pushed the way Ronda was pushed. She was marketed to the stay at home fat house wife demo which is a major demo and one that would usually have shunned mma until it was a super bad ass woman who didn't look as threatening as cyborg doing it.

She isn't the UFC's biggest star. Conor is. What are you new or something? Conor has the biggest draw.

MAYBE that argument could have been made a year ago before she got Holm'd. But Conor is the king of the UFC right now. He can make even more money now that Ronda's career is pretty much over.

So shes less marketable because she was marketed more? Holy fuck you are unbelievably stupid

you are thinking of peyton manning

So youre just going to ignore the points I just made about endorsements and fans and owner perception?

poop to leave epl when

Brock and Silva have too along with a couple other guys

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You're incredibly goddamn mixed up. I never said she wasn't marketable she was insanely marketable just not a great fighter.

Dana just says bullshit like that cause he wants to have a feminism angle

I meant active fighters. If were counting retired than tyson is most marketable ever. Point is shes not far off in ppv draw from conor. At least until last week. Actually that surprises me that tate nunes had such a pull 1.2 thats a huge number

Then why are you arguing with me faggot?
Ya thats called marketing

What matters most is PPV sales.

Also it's not like Conor hasn't been in commercials and offered movie deals and shit. He's in the latest Call of Duty for fucks sake!

>only the meteic i cherry pick counts
Cool. You win this internet argument

Jesus Christ I'm not arguing with you, I'm adding to what you were saying as far as her marketability are you always a hostile little cunt?

>This is why a lot of masters don't teach non-Asians. They completely miss the point.
Asians also lose all the fucking time in organized fights, they're practically an entire continent of tomato cans

>fight
>organized
pick one

True. It's the first time a woman's sport has been profitable. Ronda Lousey was a package sold to the masses and now the milks gone bad.

exposed as a west coast anchor you mean

Just popping into the this thread to say you're retarded.

Anything can be marketable if given a properly executed and we-funded marketing campaign. Anything. A lump of dog shit can be "highly marketable" if its heavily marketed. It's not an intrinsically positive trait, you moron.

No, she was a genuine champ in her time, and is legitimately good grappling, but she's a striking novice who has been completely exposed on the feet by decent boxers.

LOL btfo

> asians lose all the time

I guess thats true if you dont consider thailand to be "asian"

which would make you a fucking moron. Maybe you should be more specific next time like "chinese"

Or "australian".

I like this picture, but KC is allegedly a shithole. Maybe you know if you live around there, thankfully I live in a shithole near chicago suburbs.

She is the only attractive women's MMA fighter tho

Nah, there are a bunch of 115 girls better looking than her.

Tate is better overall.

Everyone says Ronda is a cunt IRL

This video explains so much.
It's like a father and a child.

damn son

>Satoshi Ishii

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she broke the attendance record for vegas this last fight. Connor set that record

>first time a womans sport is profitable
do you live in a cave?

rousey has no defense and she cannot take a punch at all.

look at the fight she had against tate where she was stunned a number of times by weak shots. if ronda had been up against someone with more power she would have been wobbling about and collapsing like she did against holm and nunes.

>the most marketable fighter on earth
holy fucking kek, you do realise the vast majority of people have no idea who she is, right?

This faggot read the yputube comments... Faggot.

He's more marketable by way of having a way larger draw than honda

That title goes to white don king

it's not her fault they made her into a meme

What I find more amusing is the 'woman' now representing the sport as it's champ.

A manfaced, lesbian bull dyke.

I studied at FSU and got a gf from KC, visited there a couple of times (from Florida), it was pretty nice, at least the upper-middle class suburb she livved in