I'm nine eps in and this is the one thing that stood out most: >"Money hasn’t been real since we got off the gold standard. It’s become virtual software. The operating system of our world. And we are on the verge of taking down this virtual reality."
Hahaha... this is a joke, right? Gold or an iPad, it's fucking arbitrary af what your currency is backed up on (in the modern world, commodity backed currency is fucking stupid in global markets). Good luck selling gold bars for a loaf of bread in a shitstorm.... it'll be glorified doorstop and a painful reminder. What goldbug idiot was working on this script?
Or was this just some bs filler to make them sound "out there"?
Jesus, I almost gave up after listening to this shit. I'm on episode nine, should I just give up?
This whole show is retarded. It's written by edgy 14-year-olds. Anyone who watched it past the 5th episode needs to get their fucking brain checked.
Carson Nguyen
I didn't even make it to episode 2.
Too much tryhard cringe.
Lincoln Morgan
The director of the show, Sam Esmail, is married to Emmy Rossum, a 29yo jew.
The series is mocking whistle blowers
Nathaniel Flores
I made it to 4th.
T R Y H A R D R Y H A R D
Jack Ward
At a meta level you can view it as showing how stupid fsociety is
Brayden Hernandez
hits too close to home, huh?
Robert Nguyen
>it's the "i don't understand that the show wants you to think fsociety is retarded" meme
the entire fucking show everything the rebelhaxxers accomplish either makes things worse or benefits some corporate or chinese agenda. you are suppose to think they're stupid kids because they are in fact stupid
Liam Anderson
>Gold or an iPad, it's fucking arbitrary af what your currency is backed up on He is talking about fractional-reserve banking.
>Good luck selling gold bars for a loaf of bread in a shitstorm.... Gold, diamonds, booze and cigarettes are the last thing that will become worthless
Benjamin Sanders
I think it's being neutral desu
Aaron Young
>Gold, diamonds, booze and cigarettes are the last thing that will become worthless booze and cigs, yeah... because it's called addition and a way to cope. fucking gold and diamonds though? are you retarded?
Charles Ward
>E-Corp introducing bitcoin apps that they control entirely >Dark Army murdering everyone so that China can make a power play over a weakened united states >my sweet, stupid qtpi Darlene: WE DID IT GAIZ
fsociety is literally just a loose end right now that is getting tied up by the other players
Caleb Young
>addition addiction. gdammit
Jason Smith
>Good luck selling gold bars for a loaf of bread in a shitstorm
You do realize that there are countless examples where people have used gold as currency during shitstorms? Unless the world is literally ending, people usually accept gold as currency. They also tend to accept clothes, furniture, paintings, etc.
I mean, this isn't some hypothetical scenario where people are just aimlessly speculating. Shitstorms happen all the time and people tend to behave predictably.
Evan King
This isn't some theoretical "what if" scenario it's been observed dozens of times over in various conflict zones and war
Blood diamonds, Wałbrzych gold train etc.
Michael Perry
??
If I identified with the tripe these characters spew wouldn't I watch it?
Your show is shit.
Bentley Brown
I agree but in terms of fsociety vs the status quo, the show is remaining neutral.
Joseph Bennett
food, clean water, sex, cigs, booze... yep, these will have worth.
Camden Cruz
>duckduckgo
nice me.me.
Nathaniel Harris
>clean water
Oh you are thinking in some childish post-apocalypse terms, carry on then
Alexander Cox
>Oh you are thinking in some childish post-apocalypse terms Rofl. Gold and diamond have no use in "childish post-apocalypse terms" or during a "perfect shitstorm for gold to still be of use" (aka still childish goldbug bs).
Oliver Bennett
Investing in commodities is a scam. Might as well just gamble online. Quicker and higher returns
Brandon Torres
These things do have value of course, but gold will too. Again, unless you're talking about a literal end of the world scenario people tend to recognize the value of gold and accept it as currency. This is something we KNOW to be true and has been since ancient times when gold had absolute ZERO practical value.
Josiah Sanchez
Are you a child that you think society just crumbles over night?
Even during the most destructive periods of human history rare-earth,precious gems, alcohol, gas and similar commodities always retain their value because while your country might be fucked somebody else is doing fine and ready to buy up said commodities.
Easton Edwards
Reminds me of how everyone thought the housing market was rock solid in the mid 00's. How's that working out? Anyone who says x will always be valuable is full of shit
Gavin Roberts
Point to one time and place in history where gold was not sought after.
Christian Jackson
>Again, unless you're talking about a literal end of the world scenario It must be nice to put things into extremes to caress your goldbug ego. What's it like wasting money on precious metals that are nothing more than a luxury? The only thing of value when it comes to that is the labor behind it, and that labor will be put to better use in times of struggle. Crackpots like Peter Schitt or Mises goons will be gone with a blink of an eye.
Kayden Price
Nice strawman
The discussion at hand is not if you should hoard gold, but that gold retains it's value in crisis situations
Samuel Anderson
Good luck having people take your dollars in a shitstorm.
Jeremiah Roberts
Is this a jew shill thread? >yes goy, get rid of that useless precious metal, we'll give you green paper IOUs instead, we're totally good for it
Nolan Myers
>Point to one time and place in history where gold was not sought after. Want to be any more vague? 99.99999999999999999999999% of all of all history. Its value exists because of human conditioning to believe it so (from tv, movies, capitalism, culture, etc)-- propaganda. It's just commercialism at its bs peak. We might as well be talking about coca cola.
Grayson Wood
Capitalist fat cat right here, guys.
Brody Murphy
>commodity backed currency is fucking stupid
good goyim
Luis Brooks
>gold retains it's value in crisis situations Citation, please.
Jeremiah Bennett
ww2?
Lincoln Scott
>It's a Sup Forums can't into basic historical economics episode >It's a Sup Forums can't understand when a character is speaking vs. when the narrator is speaking episode >It's a Sup Forums is fucking retarded again episode
Josiah Gonzalez
>Its value exists because of human conditioning to believe it so
You are legitimately a child, gold has value because
1. It's rare 2. It's a non-reactive element and as such does not corrode/oxidise over time
Number 2 is important because it means it doesn't lose mass/value over time
Austin Foster
Well pick a moment and explain how gold was not desirable then.
Christian King
And we will continue to believe in it you idiot
Juan Williams
Show is enjoyable tbqh although I can imagine it's upsetting if you're one of the demographics it's lampooning.
Levi Russell
this is good bait, because there are actually retards out there that believe gold backed currencies are worse than modern kike monopoly money, but if you are legitimately one of those people you should slit your wrists
Chase Nguyen
>I don't understand fiat currency, and what I don't understand frightens and oppresses me!
Its okay grandpa, you'll be at rest soon and not have to worry about the crazy ol' modern world.
Luke Smith
I'm a child because gold has value because it's rare... and there's minimal use for it outside of jewelry and it being heavy af?
>Number 2 is important because it means it doesn't lose mass/value over time Tell that to the Aztecs. It was just used as something shiny to hang, not Peter Schiff retards lusting over it. Aztecs.
Evan Taylor
>M..m..muh gold standard!!
Haha you sound triggered af, retard
Grayson Wright
Yup I am sure all that ancient jewelry and fucking churches covered in the stuff is from propaganda. Mate, gold is rare, easy to work with and hard to fake making it good for coinage and as show of wealth. Also this has zero to do with the gold standard.
Asher Jackson
>and there's minimal use for it outside of jewelry and it being heavy af?
And the fact that every piece of technology using a micro-chip needs gold to function
You need to educate yourself
David Reyes
Hijacking this thread with cute rami
Nathaniel Richardson
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Nathan Perry
Kek.
Ian Sullivan
Yeah, that's what Europeans slaughtered them for... put them in chains... raped, pillaged, etc. for.
Would you say it was because they desired the gold?
Luis Richardson
Very very very little gold is used in technology, dumbass. Nothing to warrant you wearing a Peter Schiff fuckface mask 24/7.
Samuel Ramirez
Explain how the aztecs didn't value gold please. It was clearly an extremely popular choice for jewlery, statues, etc.
Nathaniel Mitchell
>Very very very little gold is used in technology
Very little plutonium is used in a nuclear bomb
Your point?
Nathaniel Butler
More that they were ordered to? Monarchies demanded it-- it was used as currency there. We also used to use pelts among other things, who gives af.
Michael Torres
People who fought and died for that gold probably gave af.
Adam Ramirez
Of course it's arbitrary but it continues to get more and more arbitrary. Money ceases to have meaning when you can make more of it by adding zeros on a computer screen. The gold standard was way more real that what we operate on today.
Austin Butler
No, its true. Having a physical standard for money is incredibly important. Once money became words on a page it became ungrounded. It had nothing to ground it. It allows for corruption on scales not otherwise possible for manipulations etc... Allows for debt at absurd levels and an insane system where numbers on a page don't really even mean anything anymore.
So yes what they're saying is completely true. Even with a gold standard it was hard enough keeping greedy and corrupt people from fucking everything up. Without it... oh boy.
Asher Hall
They're been working to replace precious metals because the market is bloated thanks to speculators, keeping production artificially low, and tv/online schemers. It's a modern day pyramid scheme--- nevermind only like 4-5% of gold production is ever used in an entire year. You're acting like it you can't have computers without it. Are you being purposely stupid?
Benjamin Turner
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Andrew Bell
>People who fought and died for that gold probably gave af. Yeah, because their kings/queens would kill them, enslave them, starve them,... that or their religious leaders. It's was a culture of enslaving or be enslaved.
Camden Gonzalez
So like the entirety of human history?
Nathaniel Cruz
>The gold standard was way more real that what we operate on today. Real? Stock markets, manipulation, speculation, snake oil salesmen, etc are "real"? Interesting.
Ethan Torres
>gold is only used in jewellery >no it's not it's an integral part of computer technology >NOOO we totally don't need it and will replace it any day now
The only stupid one here is you my friend
Ayden Baker
who cares might makes right survival of the fittest strongest tribe should kill all the rest if it benefits them
our currency was way more valuable and stable under the gold standard then it is now or in recent times. Facts speak for themselves. Getting rid of the GS has fucked our economy and most common people.
Jacob Carter
I'll copy/pasta a past comment: >Its value exists because of human conditioning to believe it so (from tv, movies, capitalism, culture, etc)-- propaganda.
It's only "valuable" because rich, powerful people wanted it. Like Trump, it's facade. It's just a long tradition of lusting over something that represented power and ownership.... but anything can represent that (example: water, sex, cigs, food, etc--- and the most important of that bunch, labor).
Noah Butler
So you morons against the Gold Standard really think its preferable to have money backed by.... nothing? You also think its acceptable that countries get trillions into debt? That bankers are openly allowed to play casino with tax payer money?
Noah Myers
>it's only valuable because people want it
You're onto something. Let's keep going, you might have a revelation in this thread.
Asher Bennett
Good lord, that user sounds like a retard of mighty proportion.
Levi Ward
Its uses are limited outside of aesthetics, moron. Exceptions don't make the rule. How much spoonfeeding do you need? And no one (including me) denied Europeans lusted after it.
Tyler Richardson
How is Trump facade? You cuck smalldick.
Brayden Taylor
>Its uses are limited outside of aesthetics, moron. Exceptions don't make the rule. >used in every piece of computer technology today >limited use >exception
You are such a cretin, good God
Oliver Brown
Some people, yea. Just because it's an accepted religion doesn't make it sane or rational.
Anthony Rogers
if you took all the gold in existense and put it in an olypmic swimming pool it would only fill two olympic swimming pools. its rare, people like it, it will always have value
Jack Brown
Really? Fucking Steffy McDMCAface?
Ayden Rodriguez
>ITT
Alexander Edwards
>I took one semester of macroeconomics at my local community college... i r expert nao.
Joseph Hernandez
it's like they think they're fucking einstein b/c they watched a few youtube vids. austrian economics/doomsday cultists are hilarious.
Dominic Cox
not an argument
Aiden Murphy
who /hotcarla/ here
Jace Walker
>people like it Is also not an argument. That highlights want, not need.
Isaac Powell
yeah unlike yourself that clearly thinks that a metal that has held high value for thousands of years is suddenly worthless.
John Ross
They're redpilled and conservatives bro. This means that unlike "Liberal arts" leftists, they know every single hard science, like genetics, economics, programming and Jewish conspirology.
David Perez
>It's an Angela looks like slapped dog episode.
Joseph Allen
As someone who has a degree in econ, gold standard posters are to me almost how I imagine physics folk view flat earthers.
Gavin Sullivan
they should have hired an economic major to at least write something decent
Gabriel Rivera
gold standard doesn't mean you buy for gold. it only means you set your currency on a gold basis, for example 1 dollar = 1 gram of gold.
Jaxson Hill
gold standard was perfect only absolute fools think the current system of printing unbacked money is better
Nathan Gutierrez
the gold standard doesnt mean LITERALLY handing over a piece of gold as currency, it means your coin, paper, digital, whatever currency is essentially an IOU for gold that's in a bank somewhere
with this there is a FIXED RATE for what your currency is worth, as there is a finite amount of gold in the world and it can only increase in rarity if someone destroys a lot of gold and can only decrease in rarity if someone finds a lot of gold, and while you can use gold for electronics or jewelry the main attraction is this effect, that everyone on earth can agree upon how much there is and can trade with it
this is why bitcoin is popular because it's based on a mathematical formula that means there's a finite amount of legit bitcoins that can be generated so there's a set value
this system was deviated from in the US by FDR and completely done away with by Nixon so the US government can say the value of their countries currency is whatever the fuck they want it to be and literally print as much money as they want, so of course they go apeshit and turn it up to 11 to convince people they have lots of money now not giving a shit of the future where its worthless since they just want to get re-elected in the present
the US fucking this up and saying "give me more money now, we'll pay it off in the future we promise lol" like a crack addict is the #1 cause for all the problems in the world, why the whole worlds economy is fucked and runs on debt slavery and guess work of other investors confidence and theres so much conflict, everyone's getting poorer and its unrelated to how many real resources there are
YOU personally OP, get poorer every day because of inflation, and YOU personally didn't already know this because the US education system can't pay for itself and is dogshit
it's a good thing for the show to include, it shows the writers grasp all kinds of economic problems other than "it sucks being poor" which is the extent of most americlap understanding
Colton Flores
gold standard is a failure. you can't set a value standard on a marketable item.
Robert Thomas
though better to base it on nothing or speculation type nonsense?
also you say "we can't" and yet we did successfully for quite a long time....
Parker Perry
Who /bartering/ where?
You have something I want, I have something you want, so we exchange it.
Joshua Sanders
Inflation amount is typically less important than expected inflation amount. It's much more predictable post-standard.
Jacob Wilson
>there are people right now in this thread that dont understand that banks create money
its 100% correct, banks literally conjure money from nothing, it is effectively 'virtual software'
Dominic Long
you dumb fuck. Gold is literally the perfect currency in a apocalypse. It's easy to identify, hard to fake, exists in a finite system, is rare.
