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4 Hills Tournament standings:
1 591.2 STOCH Kamil
2 590.4 KRAFT Stefan
3 584.6 TANDE Daniel Andre
Freund and Hayböck resigned from participating (flu), so in the second round we'll see winners of 24 pairs and 6 lucky losers - that is, if the second round will be played, as wind conditions are far from good.
Wind-sama please have mercy
It's going to be fun with this wind. 3-4 m/s both directions... Cap this - winner will be as suprising as Anssi Koivuranta 3 years ago.
Time for some a/sp/bergers.
So I made a spreadsheet for all jumpers who finished at least 3rd place in at least one overall world cup. For each one I recorded all 1. to 3. places in an overall world cup, 4 hills tournament, the olympics or a world championship (nordic and ski flying).
I will now assign points to these places to create a leaderboard for the best jumpers since the world cup era.
The question arises how many points I should assign for what.
So far I'm thinking of
First place = 4 points
Second place = 2 points
Third place = 1 point
Multiplied by the importance of the competition:
World Cup: 4
4HT: 3
Olypmics: 2
World Championship: 1
So you'd get for example 16 points for winning an overall World Cup or 6 points for a second place in 4HT.
Do you think this accurate or should I change something?
Trial results
wiatr = wind, belka = gate, komp. = compensation
Nah... Change Olympics and VST and it will be OK, remember, that Olympics are main event. I don't even need to count hardly. With your assigment, Adam Małysz should be the best (4 World Cups x 4 Points x 4 Mupltiplier = 64) + (4 points x 3 for VST + 1 x 3 = 15) + (3 Silvers Olympics x 2 x 2 + 1 Olympic Bronze x 1 x 2 = 8) + 4 World Champions (4 pts) + 1 Silver WC (2 pts) + 1 Bronze WC (1 pt) so it equals 94 points.
I don't think that someone can beat it (If you will change Olympics with VST, maybe Ammann could beat it, maybe)...
stoch fell on his jump
I made something like this. 5 points 1 place, 3 points 2 place, 1 point 3 place. Top 20 since 1980
1. Ahonen 416
2. Schlierenzauer 400
3. Nykanen 383
4. Małysz 363
5. Weisflog 319
6. Ammann 288
7. Morgenster 266
8. Goldberger 240
9. Schmitt 226
10. Prevc 199
11. Freund 196
12. Widholzl 172
13. Hannawald 172
14. Kasai 171
15. Funaki 152
16. Stoch 139
17. Thoma 133
18. Hautamaki 135
19. Ljokelsoy 128
20. Peterka 127
I don't think that individual competitions are included, only overall standings. If we will count ind. competitions, then multipliers are taken from nowhere (x4 for ind. competition while x2 in Olympics), and Ahonen is the best w/o any doubts.
Actually Malysz has 119 points with this.
World Cup: 4x16 + +1x4
4HT: 1x12 + 1x6
Olympics: 3x4 +1x2
World Championship: 4x4 + 1x2 +1x1
And he is only 4th place with this.
Ahonen has 164, Nykänen has 153 and Weißflog has 142.
Malyz doesn't have enough 4HT titles to be on top.
windy meme competition incoming
This is single competitions, right? Doing this overvalues current jumpers, since there simply weren't as many competitions in the past.
I only gave points for winning whole tournaments.
These would be the top 20 with this metric.
1. Janne Ahonen: 164
2. Matti Nykänen: 153
3. Jens Weißflog: 142
4. Adam Malysz: 119
5. Gregor Schlierenzauer: 109
6. Andreas Goldberger: 99
7. Simon Amman: 98
8. Thomas Morgenstern: 89
9. Armin Kogler: 61
9. Ernst Vettori: 61
9. Peter Prevc: 61
12. Martin Schmitt: 60
13. Andreas Felder: 56
13. Sven Hannawald: 56
15. Hubert Neuper: 52
16. Kazuyoshi Funaki: 50
17. Espen Bredesen: 46
18. Primoz Peterka: 44
18. Severin Freund: 44
20. Dieter Thoma: 43
stoch is dead, shoulder injury
Stoch rip
Małysz laughs at your wind
(he's actually in Innsbruck)
will 1st round be finished? place your bets now
Jesus Christ what a shitshow
>Stoch with possible collarbone injury
>Kraft infected with flu
>Tande's knee still close to dead
>Wind all over the fucking place
I kinda hope they'll cancel the competition
cheeky Zyla 4HT win incoming
Don't forget Freund and Hayböck who both have a serious case of diarrhea
there's no fucking way this competition won't be cancelled
Freund and Hayboeck don't have a real chance to win the 4HT, but all of it can really distort the results.
>Małysz confirms Stoch will jump
Małysz just said Stoch is ok.
>-11.0
wew lad
>-0.2 for Amman
wewer lad
This shit happens every single fucking year. Why they don't jump before noon is beyond me.
did someone say
/curling/
tv money
DUDE WEED LMAO
Tollinger ded
Altenburger ded
Is jamaican ski jumping elite?
Congrats to FIS for quality preparation of the hill
why are they still going on this is a joke
Mr. Moustache to win, 2nd place to Birkner and third to some Italian lad.
last season in a nutshell
Prevc will get a front wind and kill himself
>tfw Ski Jumping isn't comfy anymore.
now you can feel fear and uncertanity m8
just like real life
Did I understand Adam's interview in that they taped Stoch's shoulder and he's okay to jump?
Indoor sky jumping in Dubai soon
yes
They also put ice on it or something. Then he said something incoherent about focus, pain and distractions, but his German wasn't good enough to get point across.
I want to go back to the early 2000 golden era with Malysz, Hannawald, Hautamäki, Widhölzl, etc...
The days when every winning jump was a HR.
Thanks lads, hope Kamil can clear his head in time.
I have a cheeky feeling that Kamil/Kraft is still going to win. The gap in form compared to someone like Johansson is simply too large.
jesus christ cancel this shit
you want twice the shitshow, just longer, because they can't compensate the wind with gate changes?
he's gonna win it guys
I'm gonna translate what Adam said in a while
What's the even appeal of this sport? I have to be the only Slovene who dislikes it.
O stan zdrowia Kamila Stocha zapytaliśmy Adama Małysza.
- Kamila boli ramię. To nie jest łatwa sytuacja, ale przyjął mocne leki przeciwbólowe, rana będzie zabandażowana, a wtedy pójdzie skoczyć. On chce. Już teraz się uśmiecha. Na początku bardzo go bolało, ale była to pierwsza reakcja po upadku. Myślę, że sobie poradzi. Jestem pewien, że w samych skokach mu to nie przeszkodzi. Zawodnik w wysokiej formie idzie z automatu. Nawet czasem potrafi skoczyć jeszcze dalej. Idzie z automatu i nie koncentruje się na tym, że coś go boli. Moim zdaniem upadek wynikał ze źle przygotowanego zeskoku. Są nierówności. Każdy zawodnik się na to skarży. Kamil spadł na róg jednej z dziur, przez co poleciał do przodu.
Thanks mate, but I now find the Polish original, and I have some grasp of Polish so that with google translate I understand quite well.
Based Simi dropping the pipebomb
>have some grasp of Polish
kocham cię fińczyku
t. Turk rape baby
>Hula
memes :DDD
just look at the wind
OH THE MEMES
Jesus, even the coach does not want Huber to jump
It's exciting
It doesn't take too long
It's spectacular
Meme jumpers can suddenly git gud, making for an extremely unpredictable world cup
/comfy/
The threads on Sup Forums are nice
Huber DSQ
respect the coach desu
I remember that Dutch Eurosport commentator went mental, also smooth landing for such a ridiculous distance.
>With todays suits & bindings, Sven & Adam would have landed beyond the fall line.
How much does Dima weigh?
About six Playstations
Fat or Slim?
>Canada jumped only 115.5
rigged, it was 117
Vita.
Hannawald was phenomenal. Shame his head was weak.
>Italy
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
"conditions at Bergisel"
lmao
>haven't paid attention, see johansson still leading
can he do it lads? lead to the final at least?
At least he still has that perfect Vierschanzen victory.
The moment he found his groove he was the greatest, most capable jumper ever, sadly those moments happend so very rarely.
This indeed was also Sven:
youtu.be
kek
>implying there will be a final run
I'd be happy if they simply managed to have everyone jump once.
I hope there is no final round, I can't take anymore of this borefest
>HELLO LADIES
i hope they cancel it before 1st round is finished
Schlierenzauer for the win!
TANDE
A
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D
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He he
Snowydeathjump is not a sport
Way to go Stoch, you ruin it
no pyro no party :-)
>You'll never be as ripped as a ski-jumper
what happened with hayböck and freund?
diarrhea
the tournament is irrelevant now
thanks jury
All in all a very nice jump by Kamil, considering the bad wind plus his injury. I am pretty satisfied.
Idiots want to play II round...
Great.
Second round in 15 minutes. Fuuuuuuuuuck
you have no idea what is going to happen with this sport.
>the tournament is irrelevant now
I disagree.
its ogre, 2nd round cancelled
>Johansson
>Klimov
>Colloredo
>Maeaettae
Jesus Christ m8 he looks like he just left Auschwitz
this guy kinda looks like he was a guard at auschwitz.
So Tande/Stoch to win the entire thing now?
Who cares, it was more fun to look at.
Yes, unless there'll be similiar wind in Bischofshofen it's gonna be one of those two.
Cheeky Zyla win
Stoch is fine but I want more Malysz :(
youtube.com
REMOVE THIS
that year he was a fucking monster