What's wrong with a draft?

I'm totally for instituting a draft. We need a draft. This blue-pilledness can only be countered with a draft. Reality will red pill them or death, both a win win. Which candidate will lead to a draft, Sup Forums ?

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Do Bernie supporters know that the military is state run?

Also you are stupid OP

Give me one reason why drafts and mandatory military service is a bad thing.

Oh brother, this is some next level stupidity.

>progressives taking over the country and restricting more individual rights
>let's institute some involuntary servitude as an antidote

Please go to bed.

Because you are being forced to risk your life and kill people for whatever the current administrations political goals are.

There is nothing red-pilled about being under the complete control of the government

Name one benefit progressivism has given this country.

Our military is large enough. We don't need to waste more money on people who could otherwise be productive.

>Under complete control of the government.
Nope. Politicians are terrified of military. It's why soldiers on base in the U.S aren't allowed to carry firearms.

First fair argument I've heard. So STEM fields could be exempt from a draft, then.

if I was called I would serve with pride.

I was born too wealthy for military to be a realistic life choice unfortunately.

In all seriousness, are you underage or just trolling?

Nice ad hominem, make a point that politicians aren't terrified of the military going rogue. Look at Brazil, they passed a billion laws to make sure military didn't take over their corrupt government.

That'll still leave ~70 million eligible people. You want to try to pay for all of that? It'll be a shitload of people doing absolutely nothing of value unless you're going to go full socialist and have them working in factories owned by the government or something.

Temporary service out of high school. Teach them some discipline, would do a crapload of good for milennials (myself included) AND would make them earn their welfare checks.

>Which candidate will lead to a draft, Sup Forums ?
Obama, how else would he fight ww3?

The US should institute a different form of the draft, countries protected by the American military must contribute men, equipment and perhaps funding directly to the country that protects them. Would be a lot better than the clusterfuck at the moment which does a similar thing only with no transparency and very inequitably

You didn't respond to my point. It would cost a shitload, leave a gap in the employment of low skill jobs, and these people would have nothing to do. The military is already filled with people who are mopping decks in the rain. What the fuck are you going to do with those millions of people that could possible be worth the cost?

Possibly, but I don't think the democrat base would go with that, since it's comprised of welfare chimps who hate being useful in any capacity.

>"5) Opponent outreach. There are several forums and imageboards where Sanders is not very popular (I think you can imagine which ones those are.) We were instructed to make pro-Sanders troll posts to rile up the user base and then try to goad them into raiding or attacking places like this subreddit. This was probably the only area where we only had mixed success, since that particular subset of the population were more difficult to manipulate than we originally thought."

The military is a part of the government, saying that the government is afraid of the military is like saying they are afraid of themselves

Why would the government be afraid when they are the ones dictating when and where the servicemen can have guns? Not to mention they provide the guns, and the ammo, and the food, and the clothes

>Possibly, but I don't think the democrat base would go with that
Who cares? You say one thing during the election and then when you are elected you do what ever you want. This is democracy.

I thought I did. Welfare is staggering, costs even more than the defense budget. May not be the most useful route for them, but it sure beats drinking and watching TV all day in subsidized housing. Honestly, any employment could exempt them from the draft. Crazy good incentive to get people employed, when I think of it.

Hehe, good point there.

And the majority of people on welfare aren't 18-25 year olds. They're single mothers in their 30s and retirees. And now when the economy is shit you're just going to draft everyone? Mandatory draft absent a global war is stupid in a country the size of the US.

It seems you think the military will harden people. It doesn't you're pretty much exactly the same coming out as going in unless you saw some actual combat. If you sit on a base for a few years nothing changes.

The government (politicians) are afraid of the military though. They are pretty much the only organization with the capacity and leadership to actually be able to take over. One popular general that is liked by both the people and the troops could in theory arrest all politicians in Washington and take over completely if the rest of the military leadership just ignored it. The military is also generally more aware then the general public, not that says much since the public is sleepy as fuck. They come into it all patriotic and idealistic but they quickly become disillusioned and starts seeing the US foreign policy for what it is.


Why do you think so many high ranking officers have been removed during the Obama administration? They are removing the ones that wouldn't go along with martial law.

Daily reminder that this guy claimed that he was recruited to lead a military coup in the US.

Some people just need to be put against the wall.

Hispanics and blacks are the ones on welfare. Single mothers, maybe, but I've known single fathers with kids who go in and ask and are turned down because, in the welfare clerks' words, "I could help you if you were hispanic." At least, that's how it's run in my state.

That being said, this and western Europe are the only countries I know of with the plague of liberalism, and we conspicuously have no mandatory military service.

Deuce, I see more than a few countries in this list that are dying of liberalism.
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The whole Butler affair makes absolutely zero sense when you consider the fact that Butler was an nationally known outspoken critic of fascism. He's not the guy you would approach with secret plans to overthrow the U.S. government.

Dude, that's what I'm saying, that's the problem.

You don't fight that shit by making it worse.

>The whole Butler affair makes absolutely zero sense when you consider the fact that Butler was an nationally known outspoken critic of fascism.
Maybe they thought they could call it something else and then take over from him after he removed all the opposition. ''oy vey butler, the politicians are ruining the country you better remove them and take over''
>He's not the guy you would approach with secret plans to overthrow the U.S. government.
It makes sense because he is one of the few people that could have succeeded with a take over.

>Maybe they thought

"maybe" is all we will ever know. It simply doesn't add up. Make of that what you will. I'm sure he was approached but I don't buy that it was a legitimate plot. There was something else going on.

Yeah fighting for cash of jews and obeying orders from someone far more stupid but one rank up for sucking dick is redpilled as fuck.

Being soldier is step above bluepill since not thinking, not having opinion and being unquestionably obedient is lifeblood of being one.

>dying for Israel's interests should be mandatory

Found the kike.

>There was something else going on.
There is always something else going on. Just look at the communist take over in Russia. They weren't the one that removed the opposition, they just took over after it the other people had done all the work.

The draft is fair.

Either defend the country or leave it.

>send your entire nations soldiers to prison.
the stupidity to even conceive that though.
I really hope this is fake bait

I say that anyone who has to use terms like 'redpilled' or 'bluepilled' in order to express his views is not only effectively retarded and ignorant, but also incredibly incapable of forming his own opinions.

Perhaps it is you who should be put to sleep, it would be a win-win anyway, you're some homo overweight NEET who adds little to society other than parroting crude Sup Forums memes diluted as ideology.

I don't really understand why anyone would fight for their country. You are just fighting a bunch of other people who were asked to do the same for their country. War is just the elite class of different countries working together to reduce the earths population.