Cap was willing to pack his things up and stop when the United Nations started lording over them

>Cap was willing to pack his things up and stop when the United Nations started lording over them

>Cap only intervened to bring Bucky in alive and so he wouldn't kill anyone in order to escape

>Cap only broke Bucky out because he knew what Zemo was planning and people wouldn't listen to him after Zemo made him go apeshit at the government office

>The airport fight only happened because Zemo was already on his way to Siberia, Cap tried to warn Iron Man and Iron Man wouldn't listen

Why do people act as if Cap went into "fuck everything" mode over Bucky? The only time he stepped over the line was when he didn't tell Iron Man Bucky had killed his parents, and he didn't even know it was Bucky, just that Hydra was behind it.

Cap did nothing wrong.

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Cap knew Bucky killed Tony's parents.

>capeshit thread

He didn't know for sure, and didn't made an effort to find out. It's well-established in the movie.

Because its a solid movie but its so popular people desperately need to dislike it.

In CA:TWS Zola tells him about "accidents" that needed to happen in order to Hydra grow from the inside and one of pictures is death of Tony's parents, also by the end of CA:CW Tony asks Cap if he knew and he confirms it. Maybe I'm wrong.

That's less interesting than the fundamental question of whether a group of people like the Avengers should be subject to UN control, or not. It's a very difficult question. Cap pretty much stated the UN is morally compromised, and it's correct, you do have absurdities like Saudi Arabia bring put in charge of the commission for human rights, or Russia vetoing all military action proposed by the US out of pure spite. Or the US vetoing anti-Israel motions, for that matter.

But then again, how do the Avengers themselves decide when to intervene? Sure if it's jacked up mercenaries trying to steal bioweapons in broad daylight, it's a no brainier for them to intervene, but what about if, let's say, Russia annexing a former Soviet state?

The Avengers usually restrain themselves from intervening in political matters. They only jump to action when lives are at stake, be it impendingly or preemptively.

The whole concept was iffy if you look at it from the eyes of a third party. None of the events caused were particularly the fault of the avengers at all so it felt silly
>the invasion of my
Essentially the governments fault, the avengers picked up the pieces the government was even willing to kill innocents while the avengers protected them
>Shields collapse
Another government issue solved by Captain
>ultron
Is the only viable argument they would have and even than that was Tony's fault

It bothered me how none of the characters ever brought this up. especially Steve seeing how none of those issues were perpetrated by the avengers and how no one called out Tonys pushing of his demons on the rest of the team. He killed that boy, and he killed the people in Avengers 2.

10/10 movies

Because Marvels only interesting plot point is Cap and Buckys relationship

>Why do people act as if Cap went into "fuck everything" mode over Bucky?
Because they are Stark fags. Meanwhile, Stark was true villain in that movie.

cAP was right.

>Cap was willing to pack his things up and stop when the United Nations started lording over them
Then he should have sign the damn paper
>Cap only intervened to bring Bucky in alive and so he wouldn't kill anyone in order to escape
So he broke the law causing a stir during a time where the nation's trust in the Avengers was wavering
>Cap only broke Bucky out because he knew what Zemo was planning
Except he didn't know what Zemo was planning that was the reason why Zemo won because he played him like a fool.
>The airport fight only happened because Zemo was already on his way to Siberia, Cap tried to warn Iron Man and Iron Man wouldn't listen
Cap didn't say shit in regards to Zemo during that scene just that he was done with them over the treaty.

The movie does a great job of spiting both sides equally so you'll wind up stretching events trying to defend one character over the other . Everything that everyone told Cap that would happen happened and now he's a wanted fugitive.

Cap can't just lead a team of super powered people into other countries without telling people and ignoring the local goberments.

Then he was all ''muh friends commited crimes but they are good people, so you either let them go or I fuck everything up!!''

He was wrong in both points.

>Natasha studied Cap’s expression of resolve. Finally, she said, “In Russia, in the Red Room, there were dozens of us. All girls, all young. We lived together. They let us be friends. Then they dropped us in the tundra, two weeks’ walk from home, with just enough supplies for one of us to survive.” Cap looked at her, understanding her meaning. “Don’t let them push us into the cold,” she said.

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Ughh so sick of those ''let's EXPLAIN her backstory instead of the movie SHOWING her backstory.''

Is the same shit with all Marvel movies!

-They don't have character development!
-Yes they do!!! Remember when they said that something happened in Budhapest??? That right there is character development and the Budhapest thing could be BW's movie featuring Hawkeye!!''

Grade A autism and bs!

Not all movies need needless flashbacks, DCbro.

>Then he should have sign the damn paper

It was either sign or retire, and he was willing to retire.

>So he broke the law causing a stir during a time where the nation's trust in the Avengers was wavering

For a good reason. Same as Iron Man later in the movie.

>Except he didn't know what Zemo was planning that was the reason why Zemo won because he played him like a fool.

He knew Zemo was going to a place filled with easily brainwashable supersoldiers after ranting about wanting to see an empire crumble.

>Cap didn't say shit in regards to Zemo during that scene just that he was done with them over the treaty.

Watch it again. He does.

Why doesn't anyone just shoot him in the knee?

Where is the blu-ray rip?

In a week or two.