What do you think about the recent appropriation of retro synth music by the political far right/fascists/neo-pagans/white nationalists/etc?
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Why have they latched onto this genre?
What do you think about the recent appropriation of retro synth music by the political far right/fascists/neo-pagans/white nationalists/etc?
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Why have they latched onto this genre?
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backwards looking retards latch on a backwards looking retarded aesthetic and music style
>Relatively easy for individuals to make thanks to DAWs
>Militaristic feel
>latches onto the current post-vaporwave zeitgeist
>very throw away music that producers don't mind giving up
idk what their intent is exactly but it's kind of cringe worthy, first it was every single ambient producer lifting vaporwave aesthetics, then it was youtubers and now its the far right
if this is some mastermind way to get people to stop throwing 80s filters everywhere though I'm all for it
le first as trageby then as a fake
The whole retrowave thing was getting overplayed when they started latching onto it anyways.
i-i never liked retrowave anyway
>Why have they latched onto this genre?
“It is generally supposed that Conservatives are usually old people, and that those in favour of change are the young. That is not quite correct. Usually, Conservatives are young people: those who want to live but who do not think about how to live, and have not time to think, and therefore take as a model for themselves a way of life that they have seen.”
not him but
>liking glorified edm ever
that doesn't make really make sense if we consider that most of these people are in America
probably a more accurate understanding would be that they've looked at what they've grown up around (neo-liberalism, globalisation, multi-culturalism) and have rejected it because, to them, it doesn't appear to have ever worked at all
i'm not saying this is reflective of reality, but just that this is a more accurate understanding of the new-right logos
I think Richard Spencer said he considered Depeche Mode to be the soundtrack to the alt-right or something like that. Obviously they didn't appreciate that.
I wonder if he knows that Martin Gore is mixed race.
It's thoroughly retarded but not really worth getting excited about.
this is something I would have listened to in 5th grade for the sole reason of being edgy
I did like it for a bit, but the gimmick got played out quickly.
i don't see why richard spencer would care if something he enjoyed was produced by the labour of someone who isn't white
the left did it just as much. they're both opportunist retard sides
It's the musical equivalent of Bible Mangas: out-of-touch, awkward, embarrassing, sloppily put together and aesthetically jarring.
The fags who do it aren't even aware that early 80s synthpop already incorporated fascist aeesthetics, in a subtle and elegant manner.
>The fags who do it aren't even aware that early 80s synthpop already incorporated fascist aeesthetics, in a subtle and elegant manner.
you probably picked the worst example to prove your point
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>The fags who do it aren't even aware that early 80s synthpop already incorporated fascist aeesthetics, in a subtle and elegant manner.
Or they're missing the irony and think Devo's Triumph Of The Will somehow puts them on their side.
And they're too young to have heard of Laibach...
Depeche Mode was going for socialist realism with that cover. Fascists stole a lot of their aesthetic from Bolsheviks to try and attract workers, despite being firmly anti-worker.
The alt-right, at this point, is just a bunch of Sup Forumsermins who want to protect their videogames from feminists, and perceive the rest of reality as an extension of this situation.
The reason why they latched onto synthwave is because it's sometimes used as video game music, and all they know is video games.
if the alt-right had been born 5 years earlier they'd make fascist dubstep instead.
10 years earlier they'd make fascist chiptune.
It's a symptom of their cultural short-sightedness.
fascism is not really anti-worker, it just doesn't even make a distinction
it's really just neutral and accepts the inherent hierarchy of man
Fascist aesthetics =/= fascist ideology.
Laibach, Devo, SPK, Propaganda, Depeche Mode, Alphaville etc...
The lyrics are fairly socialist-leaning too, on that album in particular.
Are these people too dumb to embrace legit retarded fascist musicians like Boyd Rice?
>fascism is not really anti-worker
That's why the blackshirts got their start beating up striking workers, and every fascist regime banned independent trade unions and make striking illegal.
Probably because a lot of alt-right members are cringeworthy Sup Forums users and went through their high school years playing Hotline Miami so now they think 80's revival is the coolest, edgiest shit ever
Great, I can't wait for fascist lo-fi hip-hop
I think the problem is more that Gore is a prominent example of race mixing not actually being bad.
lo-fi hip-hop would have to be used as vidya music for the alt-right to pick it up
yeah, get in line for the betterment of your volk and ergo the betterment of yourself
fascists think that they're helping one another - it's only anti-worker if you think fascism isn't effective at helping the worker
you're looking at a single individual
would an anarchist have to admit that capitalism is good because philanthropists exist?
it wouldn't be difficult
just replace the minimal hi-hats with snare drums and BAM you've turned every cheap-ass trap beat into a military marching beat.
you don't have any understanding of what you're talking about
i bet you think that /r/the_donald and /r/kotakuinaction are alt right lol
As a matter of fact, they pretty much are
"Lol."
>check out this fucking BASED black guy in a Trump hat!
>t. ardent white nationalist
>We Stand With Israel
>t. ardent white nationalist
>guys we really need to BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF 'EM and intervene in foreign affairs
>t. ardent white nationalist
>guys dont' you think that NAZIs are really the same as SJWs le horseshoe theory
yeah dude i'm sure those are some real alt-right sentiments
It's everywhere over youtube so they'll likely pick it up when they watch the newest Sargon video
I guess that they'd have to use it to study though or whatever people use those radio stations for
jesus yeah, its already simple as shit to produce
honestly the perfect genre to mass produce with some nazi shit over it
fuck I might actually do a couple of tracks as a joke
it's just dumb internet humor, calm down
the horseshoe theory isn't a theory it's just a general observation
colloquially known as horseshoe theory
I dunno man, poe's law and all, but I'm pretty sure this shit is actually supposed to be "cool"
I like how nu-males act all chill and cool outside but they reveal how mad they are about the alt-right when they're in their safe zone(Sup Forums).
>IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO
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doesn't look like it to me
>would an anarchist have to admit that capitalism is good because philanthropists exist?
The problem is that you're actively undermining your own argument. It's like saying that African immigrants can't assimilate or contribute positively to European genetics or culture while listening to Stromae. Far right people like that will cherry pick bad examples of things and use that to paint everyone with the same brush. That's pretty much the basis for their entire argument. So why draw attention to a counterexample?
I for one welcome the rise of Martial Vaporwave.
>That's pretty much the basis for their entire argument.
no it isn't
the basis of their argument is based on human welfare and peace
they don't believe it's impossible that some individual of one ethnicity cannot assimilate to the culture of another disparate ethnicity
can*
>yeah, get in line for the betterment of your volk and ergo the betterment of yourself
Yeah because I have so much in common with some rich degenerate because we're both white.
I agree that Poe's law is true but I don't actually advocate for NatSoc shit
I mean in general it's just meme shit like this:
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yeah it's a meme in the same way that anarchists meme about being a tankie
so not really at all
>Yeah because I have so much in common with some white guy because we're both poor.
So if I post this Hitler meme I become a German National Socialist?
People from similar economic statuses have more in common each other than those with similar racial backgrounds imho
Ethnic conflicts can be surpassed through the class struggle.
See: Aryan Brotherhood dudes siding with black prison gangs during prison riots
>the basis of their argument is based on human welfare and peace
Yeah but it's weak as fuck and relies pretty much entirely on anecdotes and fabrications. Presenting a contradictory anecdote makes its incoherence more obvious.
wtf
how Martin Gore looks nothing like mixed if he has a black father?
jesus christ, if you thought Sup Forums had terrible taste in music, watch them try and discuss political/social issues
t. nu-male
>ITT: people pretending to be Sup Forumstards to trigger Sup Forums.
t. Sup Forums-male
I wish I was that autistic.
Maybe I wouldn't feel anything.
This.
It's like they wanted a grunge revival.
>I agree that Poe's law is true but I don't actually advocate for NatSoc shit
Poe's law is a meme.
This.
numales need to cut of their testes and be be goneskis.
Seriously,
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I've actually been experimenting with it, it's... actually less fascist and more Soviet Union/Maoist China esque in a way, especially if you toy around with distortion. Still, you can get a damn good military-esque hip hop sound and I'd like to experiment more with it by lifting stuff from military marches so a lot more flute work for example.
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If you understand this song, you have been blessed with a gift few have understood.
I heard this song on a boat with my pa. Nothing I learnt in life compared to this lesson.
Jesus Christ this thread is bait as hell. This very same thread had been created weeks ago but this time all you newfags actually start feeding OP. The old one only had like 5 posts before it 404'd.
Their attempts at taking over it have pretty much killed it for me, they're so bad at it, specially their "aesthetics".
ur a fag.
It's like i'm on reddit or something
The one certainty about politics on Sup Forums is that nobody on either side of the aisle actually has any idea what they're talking about
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but goebbels and mussolini thought architecture, graphic arts and music, cinema and radio would be the key to people's mind and hearts
you're delusional
how this can be a result of a direct race mixing between black and white?
Why can't they just stick to screwdriver?
>fascist chiptune
I didn't know I needed this
Holy shit this really exposes the 'fuck you mum and dad' types. Watching you guys trying to figure this out without a shred of intellectual charity is hilarious.
The reason they do it is pretty obvious - they ride the same fad dick as you kids, except instead of 'played-out', they call it 'degenerate'.
The reason they started the fash-wave thing is because revivalist synthwave is 'degenerate', temporary, and directionless. So, they juxtapose that with either military imagery in reference to their nationalism, or classical sculpture in reference to their heritage.
Its a hobbyistic psy-op to hurry along the inevitable rejection of the current fad, in an attempt to get the pendulum to swing toward more concrete, traditional visual aesthetic.
>they aren't that smart, go back to Sup Forums if you love them so much
They talk about this pretty openly, desu.
the father must have been mixed himself
muh 4d chess