Th hstry f lphbtc wrtng gs bck t th cnsnntl wrtng systm sd fr Smtc lnggs n th Lvnt n th 2nd mllnnm BC. Mst r nrly ll lphbtc scrpts sd thrght th wrld tdy ltmtly g bck t ths Smtc prt-lphbt. ts frst rgns cn b trcd bck t Prt-Sntc scrpt dvlpd n ncnt gypt t rprsnt th lngg f Smtc-spkng wrkrs n gypt. Ths scrpt ws prtly nflncd by th ldr gyptn hrtc, crsv scrpt rltd t gyptn hrglyphs. we dont have vowels in our scripts. we tell how words are pronounced by adding some marks like dashes or dots from above or below or the side of the letter. mostly in news paper or books or internet articles they dont mark the vowels and we read them by guessing what will the word be and get it from our experience. been like this since thousands of thousands of years before Christ.
Doesn't the buildup of semitic scripts mean that vowels aren't as important?
Also you have those fancy mater lectionis.
Robert Perry
I think it's effective because Arabic only has 3 vowels (with long and short versions). If there're more vowels it would be a total mindfuck through.
Jacob Adams
>semitic scripts
Meant languages, obviously.
Your word roots are all consonant sequences.
Juan Powell
hey hey. the only reason we can write now is because of these abjads.
its both. but mostly effective in Semitic script you could write faster than other scripts.
i think our ancestors had a meet up about it and they said it is better not to add extra letters in every word and let us just mark the vowels if needed. for example in old south arabic when the consonant need doubling they add extra letter. so you would see something like Hello. but in modern arabic we mark the doubling above one consonant with ـّ called Shaddah.
its true. also we have the roots for words for example:
Ketab means book. it has the root of ktb now watch this: Kataba = he wrote Katabat = she wrote Yaktoboun = they are writing Maktaba = library Maktoub = written
language =/= writing system
Isaiah Stewart
That's why Arabic sounds like you're spitting, right?
Connor Reed
No vowels, Greeks confirmed master race for vowels.
Dominic Cox
i dont know which Arabic you heard of. but we have many Arabic as i have problem contacting with Yemeni Arabic speaking people or Tunisian speaking people. even i cant somehow understand Iraqis wtf
basically Greek is a successor of no vowels writing system called Phoenicians. we are all using writing system successor to the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs
we are all kangs here.
Jackson Gomez
arabic sounds like HGHGHGH GHGGH HG AA GHGHG A GHGGHGH ALLAH GHGHGHG AA GHGHG ABDULLA HGHGH JALLA GHGHG
Charles Phillips
Greeks invented first modern alphabet with vowels.
Landon Bailey
>language =/= writing system
Yes, that's what I just said.
Semitic languages are built around consonantal roots.
no one deny that. but you give the Phoenicians the big credit for helping the evolution of writing in EU. without them europe would be now writing something like similar thing to the Chinese.
i posted that above
ana elyom ma rehet emtehany le-eno ana kent kteer ta'ban wa ma-ederet a-aoum mn el-noum
hmmmm doesnt sound like spiting
Jacob Smith
What are some roots other than ktb and what do they mean?
Owen Phillips
Akel means food it has the root of AKL
AKaLa = he ate AKaLat = she ate yA-KoLoun = they are eating
or Sayed means fishing(although S here isnt like of the sun it is other thing called Sadat) SAD
SADa = he caught fish SADat = she caught fish yA-SeDoun = they are fishing
Elijah Torres
Wtf in poonisian it s kle klet yeklou
Cameron Rogers
Sada what does it mean?
Michael Torres
>we wz cnsnants and sht
Ryan Young
صاد من صيد السمك
Nathan Powell
tunisian arabic or basically western arabic is fuck my shit up.
you guys dont even speak proper arabic
Logan Sanders
Most words in Semitic languages are based on triconsonantal roots, no? So this system fits your languages way more than it fits English.
Justin Wright
Actually abjads predate alphabets. Grerks used unused Phoenician consonants (because Greek lacked them) to mark wowels, thus inventing the modern alphabet. Before that only consonants were written.
Carter Nguyen
You should get to our level through. We also have many consonant clusters, but actually pronounced without consonants. Like:
Hmla - fog Krk - neck Prst - finger Strč - insert/put (as in plug something or put your finger somewhere) Plť - tiny boat, basically just bound wood planks Smršť - storm like in snowstorm, not regular storm Dĺžka - lenght Hĺbka - depth Štvrtok - Thursday Tĺk - beater, also a dumb person Mĺkvy - mute
This is because r, l and ĺ (long l) can act as a semivowel in Slovak.
Kayden Sanchez
I don't know about Arabic, but Hebrew has "hint letters", that usually mark vowels.
Though sometimes they act as consonants, and some of them hint at different vowels (as in: one letter marks both /o/ and /u/), and on rare occasions they signify a vowel different from the one they usually do.
Maybe that's even worse.
Brayden Flores
How basic, writing without vowels for the kafirs
Gabriel Jenkins
wtf man thats kinda retarded
i have said that all semitic writing system mark the vowels
Anthony King
In semetic languages, vowels are grammatical markers, and consonants are what carry meaning.
example: the verb for "fall" in hebrew is based on the three consonant root N-F-L
I fall - ani NoFeL He fell - hu NaFaL I fell - ani NaFaLti A fall (noun) - NeFiLa They fall - hem NaFLu
etc etc etc
Carson Green
I assume you were refering to Tashkil, and we have something similar, Nikkud, but I am taking about letters that hint for vowels even without Nikkud
Julian Brooks
i think we have something similar. Waw and Ya are considered something similar to what you said
idk maybe im stupid in grammar
Owen Perez
I remembered reading somewhere that Arabic has that too, but I wasn't sure so I didn't want to talk out of my ass.
Liam Moore
why the fuck our grammar is that hard holy shit. do you guys even do something called I'rab?
Sort of, though we don't have a term for them. There are all kinds of grammatical suffixes and prefixes that were common in early modern Hebrew, and you still occasionally see them in songs or very formal texts, but are never used in daily speech.
One example is the possessive suffix. No one uses it in daily speech, and just say "[object] of [possessor]" like cavemen.
One funny exception is the word "Akhi", which means "my brother", but it is only used to refer to friends, like "bro" in English. You would never use it to refer to your actual brother, which you would just call "Akh sheli"
Austin Garcia
so it seems Arabic is the only Semitic language which have a set of most complicated grammar in the Semitic world. i fail at understanding the simple thing from it even for now. and i dont even know how it turned into being very complicated system like this
