Was World War 1 the biggest mistake in the history of Europe?

Was World War 1 the biggest mistake in the history of Europe?

>It effectively ended the Ottoman Empire, which had existed since the 14th century.


>It ended the empire of Austria-Hungary; and ended the Habsburg line of Kings which stretched back 400 years.


>It sparked the October Revolution and dramatically altered the course of the Russian Empire. Right up to WWI, Russia was on a path of meteoric growth and was seen as a younger, more dynamic United States; with more growth potential. This may seem weird or silly to us today; but in 1914, Russia was well on it's way to becoming the greatest superpower in the world.

>It marked the beginning of the end for the British Empire.

>It accelerated the rate at which the United States was becoming a super-power.

>The humiliation of Germany in the Treaty of Versailles obviously set the stage for the rise of Nazism and WWII.

>The effects of World War 1 is still present in our society after almost 100 years.

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its not that world war 1 happened, its that germany lost

The biggest mistake in the history of Europe was opening your borders to kebabs you cuck

where did you get that information about Russia, from we all know it was shit in the early pre-revolution 20th century and other than the facts, common sense proves it: why would people riot if everything was fine?

this.

Everyone argues that the central powers were the good guys of WWI

>ended the Ottoman Empire
This is bad because?

(((people)))

>It sparked the October Revolution and dramatically altered the course of the Russian Empire. Right up to WWI, Russia was on a path of meteoric growth and was seen as a younger, more dynamic United States; with more growth potential. This may seem weird or silly to us today; but in 1914, Russia was well on it's way to becoming the greatest superpower in the world.
what is Colosse aux pieds d'argile

>white people will never have actual monarchies ever again

The middle east was a lot better under Ottoman control

>le Jewish revolution conspiracy theory meme
time to go back to r/conspiracy kid

>The humiliation of Germany in the Treaty of Versailles obviously set the stage for the rise of Nazism and WWII.


utterly, utterly wrong.

If anything germans started WW2 because they weren't humiliated at all.

Their soldiers returned home to cheers, as if they'd won.

Treatyu of versailles was incredibly repayable by Germany, and on top of all that the public treaty was just a load of bullshit and the allies secretly agreed with Germany that they had to pay back much less

because having a well organized, known enemy with a large territory is not as bad as you might think

Because they were the ones holding the middle east together, you retard.

For western europe yes, they whored themselves to American sheckles and lost the best of that generation.

How would that have made the world better
the German empire is just as vulnerable to decay as any one

FPBP

I'm always amazed how a handful of kikes like Trotsky managed to take a powerful and strong people like the russians, get them to mutilate and destroy themselves for some vague social program that put the jews on top, and still to this day after millions of your people died in droves, you still defend the kikes tooth and nail.

Perhaps your people had no value to start with

>Treaty of Versailles was incredibly repayable.

Fucking hell that's got to be the stupidest thing I've heard on Sup Forums in awhile.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

Never have I ever read such entire bullshit even on started of a 10 year old going to primary. Wow lad and I considered you guys great minds

You do realize you would still be inslaved under Austia-Hungary if that happened. Its retarded for you to say that unless you are German.

It was literally the Apocalypse. Post-apocalyptic world order of internationalism was concieved by the Great War. The Second World War was only a reactionary attempt at reversing the tide. It is a sad world we are living in Swede,look outside your window and bask in the benefits of progressive society that stemmed from the soil soaked with blood of millions of young Europeans.

Thank you, you saved the pride of you country

>t. Eternal Anglo

You can't be kicked out of the EU fast enough.

>anglo
>pride

we are all enslaved

desu the Ottoman empire needed to die. They spread through Europe like a plague and treated the local population like third class citizens.

Probably the best thing to happen as a result of dubya dubya uno.

It's an EA, what do you expect.

>By 1916, Britain was funding most of the Empire's war expenditures, all of Italy's and two thirds of the war costs of France and Russia, plus smaller nations as well. The gold reserves, overseas investments and private credit then ran out forcing Britain to borrow $4 billion from the U.S. Treasury in 1917–18.[8] Shipments of American raw materials and food allowed Britain to feed itself and its army while maintaining her productivity. The financing was generally successful,[9] as the City's strong financial position minimized the damaging effects of inflation, as opposed to much worse conditions in Germany.

>inslaved
>he does not know about the Ausgleich of 1867 and the perturbations in the Empire after that enabled the birth of various nations within it in the 20th century
Back to elementary school with you Jovice.

how does one get to be this retarded

>brit

oh okay, hi Achmed.

A damn good post.

>If anything germans started WW2 because they weren't humiliated at all

Never read such a load of bullshit.

At the end of the First World War, Germany was essentially tricked [see Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p24 and H Nicholson Peacemaking 1919 (1933) pp13-16] into paying massive reparations to France and other economic competitors and former belligerent countries in terms of the so-called Treaty of Versailles, thanks to the liberal American President Woodrow Wilson. Germany was declared to be solely responsible for the war, in spite of the fact that 'Germany did not plot a European war, did not want one, and made genuine efforts, though too belated, to avert one.' (Professor Sydney B Fay The Origins of the World War (vol. 2 p 552)).

As a result of these massive enforced financial reparations, by 1923 the situation in Germany became desperate and inflation on an astronomical scale became the only way out for the government. Printing presses were engaged to print money around the clock. In 1921 the exchange rate was 75 marks to the dollar. By 1924 this had become about 5 trillion marks to the dollar. This virtually destroyed the German middle class (Koestler The God that Failed p 28), reducing any bank savings to a virtual zero.

According to Sir Arthur Bryant the British historian (Unfinished Victory (1940 pp. 136-144):

'It was the Jews with their international affiliations and their hereditary flair for finance who were best able to seize such opportunities.. They did so with such effect that, even in November 1938, after five years of anti-Semitic legislation and persecution, they still owned, according to the Times correspondent in Berlin, something like a third of the real property in the Reich. Most of it came into their hands during the inflation.. But to those who had lost their all, this bewildering transfer seemed a monstrous injustice.'

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It gave Polish people their country back, wasn't so bad.

Hans, you actually think that any amount of rational inquiry/empirical evidence in form of historiography is going to convey your message through his thick skull? Do yourself a favor and save your time next time and dont bother posting at all. 90% of British posts are b8 m8 shitposts.

>It sparked the October Revolution and dramatically altered the course of the Russian Empire. Right up to WWI, Russia was on a path of meteoric growth and was seen as a younger, more dynamic United States; with more growth potential. This may seem weird or silly to us today; but in 1914, Russia was well on it's way to becoming the greatest superpower in the world.


That's bullshit m8

Alot of Russians resisted Communism ferouciously and organized in White hystes that survived the USSR. Also Trotsky and all Comminists of jewish heritage save kaganovich were purged in the 1930s and the leadership became Russian. So It Was only the period 1917-1938 that Russia Was suffering. Also thats rich, calling one of the greatest nations in the world useless while your own nation is filled with disgusting degenerate cucks

It aint that far from the truth,perhaps a hyperbole at the end is an excess,but everything else is solid frogman. Care to elaborate or you are just here to shitpost?

Yeah, The USSR Was the greatest superpower in the world for decades. Its true Russia would be basically like modern USA, Russia and China combined If ww1 and civil war never happend

yes

also Versaille was a ruse, things war set for another war right then

Arguable at best. Although De Tocqueville already foresaw that, due to geopolitical limitations, the US and Russia were the only 2 countries with nearly unlimited growth capacity (the other countries were already bordering each other).

Russias Economy Was growing at the rate of say, modern China, before ww1 and its population Was outbreeding everyone faster than muslims and africans Today. Ww1 and civil war halted the development, but Russia did become a global superpower under Stalin in the 1930s.

Without staline, germany win the WW2, thanks to inhumane method the russian industry and technology was a way better than german, i don't know about the kike post-revolutionary period, but before russia was a simple regional power without a real influence in europe, repected by everyone but no at the same level than france or england.
In the economics field, russian agriculture was not that good and with a serious lack of "comptoirs"

This has to be bait.

Dude, event our most shitty poor areas still have a substantially higher standard of living them anywhere in russia.

The effect the jews had on russia lingers to this day, canada, a near second world country in most areas with a shrinking economy ruined by corruption and theft still manages with 336 million people to have more GDP then ALL of russia.

36 million*

Not at all. Largest and most powerfull army in the world, largest air force, largest submarine fleet, which Was extremly advanced and had global striking power, largest nuclear stockpile, largest weapon exporter, largest and most succesfull Secret intelligence in history (KGB), High living standards, best school system in the world, most advanced space technology, satellite states all over the world, enormous cultural influence. USSR Was unmatched in the late 60s to Early 80s

I will check, if it's true why not, domgraphics it's the most important things(except in africa )

Guess I'm the ignorant American here but I have no idea who that pic is. I always assumed it was a morph of Assad and Walt Disney.

It is important to mention who were the first rulers of Russia thousand years ago and who technically started the whole government and nation-building process.

rowan atkinson, beady eyed anglo coward

Because of the 90s, when shock capitalism Was intruduced, before that Russia had in many ways superior living standards to west. Russia is a great power while Canada is a slave to the pax Americana and globalists, so stop Being so snub

Slavs

>Because of the 90s, when shock capitalism Was introduced, before that Russia had in many ways superior living standards to west

youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE

now say it with me

slavs are subhumans bred to be slaves by jews

>slavs are subhumans bred to be slaves by jews

it's true you know

>Russias Economy Was growing at the rate of say, modern China, before ww1
Literally not true. Germany had the highest growth in Europe and it was not matched by any other country. Present me sources that point otherwise.
Russia was in a stage of modernization/industrialization that was intensified by the war ( an example is the fact that Ruskies produced the biggest amount of ammunition in the war ) and was completely devastated by the war due to immaturity of the aforementioned industry.
>its population Was outbreeding everyone faster than muslims and africans Today
It was undergoing a demographic transition,this does not constitute for a great threat to the western nations. It does constitute a threat to the people who are holding the reigns of the West. What a great catastrophe would unveil after a non degenerate healthy nation would transform itself ( naturally ) into a modern state that could protect its sovereignty, wouldnt it? That is why the powers that be intervened and created the abomination that is called the Soviet Union.

>Ww1 and civil war halted the development, but Russia did become a global superpower under Stalin in the 1930s.
Absolutely not true. Stalin was brought into the global arena after the Second World War ( US-SSSR dichtomy that replaced the "Old Guard" superpowers like France and England).

There were food shortages in the late 80s but living standards were superior in other ways, everyone had a job, good wage, no criminilaty, no homeless people, best schools in the world. No degeneracy, while your beloved westerners were drowning in pornography and disgusting Satanic MTV pop Music. Slavs are the last true Europeans, westerners are cucked degenerates. The biggest slavs to the Jews are White Americans, Who literaly Worship Jews and train their children to die for Israel, while slavs were the only ones Who stood with arabs against jewish aggression, while you degenerate westerners always supported them. Enjoy having your civilization inherited by turks and Africans

>being this oblivious
I suggest you read In Denial by John Earl Haynes before you proceed to shitpost here. It will save you from a great deal of buttblasting here.

Russia Was still a growing power, and USSR became a great power long before ww2.

>'Germany did not plot a European war, did not want one, and made genuine efforts, though too belated

this is complete bullshit though. Peace could've been made as early as 1915 if it wasnt for Wilhelm II being a utter moron and rejecting it everytime. Please educate yourself

The Candian Guy is probally some sick paranoid schizophrenic

>incredibly repayable

And what would you know? Croatians are famous for selling themselves out to the west and betraying Slavdom

I am starting to think all world wars just cuck the participants.
All your warriors die off and the Carls inherit the ruins.
The Japs tried economic domination into the 90s now that has stagnated to death too.

HAHAHAH
commie cocksucker SWWWWEEEDEN

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorik_of_Dorestad

I would also mention that Russian language is practically a mixture of words and grammar from german, french, italien and some groups of asian languages.

Not to mention it directly contributed to the deaths of millions of young Europeans, which led directly to population issues that white countries are having today.

When white people kill white people, everyone else wins.

>Russia Was still a growing power
Russia was a power in rise like dozens of other nations at that time. That does not change your post Ahmed.
>and USSR became a great power long before ww2
That is literally not true. There is not a single treatise by anyone that suggests this. If you actually bothered to read geopolitical research/historiography and not use Reddit as your funnel for your worldview you would not present yourself as an ignoramus of the highest order. Step your game up son.

>There were food shortages in the late 80s but living standards were superior in other ways, everyone had a job, good wage, no criminilaty, no homeless people
>fucking food shortages
>better then western living conditions

Food is pretty fucking important faggot.
>had a job, good wage
You literally couldn't afford to import enough food and most people couldn't afford a cut of meat.

>best schools in the world
Yeah the soviet state department said so right

>No degeneracy
I'll give you that, its hard to squat on drugs when your priority is not starving or going to a concentration camp.

>Who literaly Worship Jews and train their children to die for Israel, while slavs were the only ones Who stood with arabs against jewish aggression
And those same people are now bucking the trend and going trump.

>Enjoy having your civilization inherited by turks and Africans
Enjoy Siberia becoming Chinese, and Russia becoming 30% islamic in two decades.

Tell me, are you a slavshit on a proxy or another slav in sweden getting gibs while sitting on your shitty cigarettes playing videogames all day

Money is nice, but when ur starving to death I'm sure you would rather have a fucking sandwich

and you will never know yank

WWI was the start of the great collapse.

In USA we got the creation of the "temporary" income tax, the Federal Reserve, basically everything that Ron Paul & libertarians are against.

It all started in WWI.

One could argue the whole "We need to be in a state of constant warfare to keep the population ignorant, distracted, and entertained while we lay waste to their traditions, morals, and way of life" started with WWI.

Yeah, there was shit that happened before WWI, but WWI was where it became mainstream.

Britain still hasn't paid off its WWI debt and never will. WWI can be seen as the defining moment when Britain ceased to be a world power.

>Croatians are famous for selling themselves out to the west and betraying Slavdom
>selling themselves out to the west
Are you referring to that the time we joined the Axis or when we liberated ourselves from them? Or are you thinking about our Antemuralis title? Did you forget about the fact that Croats advocated and created the panslavistic intellectual sphere in the Balkans that lead to 2 attempts at some kind of "Slavdom" iteration of a state.

What a shitty attempt of an insult Svencuck. If you start pulling me by my tongue I might start posting about brave Swedish conduct in the WW2 and you would not want me to do that would you? Or I could openly attack your pathetic excuse of a country that passes as Sweden nowadays? Trust me cuckman, you dont want to go down that road.

Now, I am offering you last chance to refute anything I said. How about you actually try to form a coherent post this time that actually addresses my points?

Reminder that the German Empire put Lenin on a train to Finland to help get Russia out of the war

The Eternal Kraut is responsible for the horrors of communism in Eastern Europe

>but before russia was a simple regional power without a real influence in europe, repected by everyone but no at the same level than france or england.

The point is that they were in the process of uncucking themselves and we're starting to become a concern to most of the major powers. Now whether the monarchy would've been sustainable in that scenario even with no WW1 is debatable, but their economic situation was similar to ours in the mid 1800s, yes, merely a solid regional power, but with yuge capacity for growth and the population to make good use of it.

Shit, Russia uncucking its shit was one of the main causes of WW1. Perfidious Albion realized that Russia was the only continental power that could keep Germany in check over the long term, and Germany got so worried about Russian growth potential that they actively took steps to provoke Russia to war during the build-up after Franz got BTFO.

it wasn't a mistake. without it we wouldn't have an awesome new battlefield game to play

Those Jehovah's Witnesses may be on to something.

They believe Jesus was enthroned in 1914, and cast Satan and his demons out that same year. Coincidence WW 1 started that same year?

>Eternal Kraut
>not Eternal Jew
Noice try m8,noice try.

reminder all the communist founders were kikes but funded and propped up by anglo saxon freemasons

World War I was indeed the biggest mistake in Europe's history.
It was the crucial point of jewish schemes.

Truly the end of an era, Euros used to be god-tier.

Jw's are fuck in the head. They do have good pussy because I fucked a ton of the bitches. They are so sex starved. Try it. You'll like it!

The Kaiser was idiot.

no world war two, no eu... Germany would be happy after it dominated Russia (the sole reason ww1 happened, they invaded france because france sucked on imperial Russian nuts and would attack the flank of Germany - something that could not be afforded considering the imperial Russians were pretty good at fightan)

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>imperial Russians were pretty good at fightan

>inb4 Nippon appears