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I wish I knew the names of sounds so I could speak intelligibly and be able to search up tips for perfecting them
I'm a fucking bumbling idiot
Ethan Brooks
I want to get into amateur home recording and I play guitar. I was thinking of getting a multiFX pedal that could be also used as an usb audio interface to record stuff but apparently using just a sound interface and software to get different sounds is better. Is that correct?
If so, what interface should I get? My two main options are the Focusrite Scarlett Solo and the Behringer U phoria.
Also, could I practice/play along songs using an interface? i have good headphones(AKG K240 Mk II)
John Roberts
Yes, a multfx pedal interface will have both crappy effects and will be a crappy interface. Get an actual interface
Most anything behringer is shit, so get the scarlett. I'd suggest getting the 2i2 rather than the solo, because if you stick with recording you are almost 100% going want to upgrade to using multiple mics after not too long.
Yes you can play along. One way to do it would be to just drop the song into your DAW, hook up your interface and play along on another track. Or just get the amplitube app, then you can use that to play along while having itunes open or whatever.
John Moore
Why would I want multiple mics? I plan on plugging the guitar on the computer, not miking the amp. Although that can happen some day, but at first I won't be able to afford an sm57.
Parker Jenkins
Once you learn more about recording, you'll want to expand and have more flexibility. Trust me
Also try and find things used on ebay to save money
Tyler Ramirez
I promise if you want to record di and get a scarlett you're going to have a really shitty time
stop suggesting the 2i2 it's shit for recording
Benjamin Johnson
It would make sense for you to suggest an alternative
Dylan Collins
ask me
Christopher Wilson
Why would I have a shitty time. Please explain.
Should I wait and get the interface + sm57 and record through my amp?
Hey, is there anything about this mix that can be improved on? Also is my production good?
This is good
Nolan Lewis
willing to get into techno, any particular plugin recommended
Josiah Jackson
ur 22, roland quad capture, id14, literally anything else lol
zero headroom and very dark sounding pres. it's just a huge easilly avoided headache
I had one, my sss strat clipped the thing with ease. google it and literally everyone has problems with that thing
Andrew Lopez
word there are so many specific synth sounds that I wanna look up but I have no idea how to describe them properly... like there's this one that kinda sounds like a chipmunk voice doing vowels but idk if that makes sense to anyone but me... it's probably just a vocal sample in a sampler...
Christopher James
What is the most tweakable acoustic drumkit VST?
Is there any VST that beats Guitar Rig in terms of cab, mic + positioning emulation?
Hunter Wilson
Once you understand the definitions of the following and know how they sound, it should all click for you.
Probably Abbey Road Modern Drummer, along with other Kontakt kits.
Brayden Kelly
can't say for heads but the cabs in gr suck as. kathallen sounds a lot better to me
Dominic Young
>acoustic drumkit superior drummer, addictive drums
>beats Guitar Rig bias amp
Charles Martin
>Is there any VST that beats Guitar Rig in terms of cab, mic + positioning emulation? Use Guitar Rig or Amplitube to simulate the amp heads, then use impulse responses to simulate the cab
>Incidentally, Control Room Pro uses RedWirez impulse responses, which are some of the best we've tried, and having them accessible via such a friendly, flexible interface only enhances their usability.
WHAT NOW HUH
Asher Kelly
plenty more than those are available
Ryan Brown
Apparently if I use a direct box the issue is fixed. How about that?
Jack Lee
Then you have to buy a direct box, and a good one is about the same price as the scarlett
This is far from finished but I figured it'd be a good time to check in and get some feedback. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, especially on the transition to the chattery orchestral part. I want it to be jarring but not to the extent that it takes you out of the music.
Noah Jones
why not just put that money toward buying an interface without a problem lol
Jeremiah Wilson
>clyp.it/un3zf15h The volume difference between the melody and the beat is way too big, you should turn that sample up. The delay between the kick and the snare is also driving me insane, if that was intentional I'd give it a bit more space so it doesn't just sound like an accident.
I really love the weird vocal sampling, it's got a nice whimsy to it.
Holy shit after 1:05 things really get interesting, this is great. However, I'd recommend altering the drums so that they change with the music. They kind of stick out just keeping the same beat
Levi Sanchez
Can I bump it (yes I can)
Ryder Brown
in fig1, 0:20 to 0:27 really hurts my right ear and makes my eyes water
Jackson Evans
>Working on putting together demos on my own track-by-track >Have a few songs that I've started recording/writing but am starting to get tired of >Still a good amount of work to do before they're even playable as demos Should I abandon them and start a new song that I'm more interested in or should I try and improve/finish them out even if it's just for practice?
Jordan White
Get in the habit of actually finishing things or be doomed to being like every other amateur with hundreds of hlf naked songs
Also polishing things is a skill you have to practice too man
Jose Rogers
>tfw my only real music talent is polishing and fleshing out/layering >can't for the life of me put together the skeleton of a new song
Not what I wanted to hear but you're definitely right. I'll stick with it.
Shit's frustrating, I wish I could work faster and have a lot more material to work with but it feels like it takes me forever just to come up with one part. Let alone basslines and drums and lyrics and everything else. There's a friend of mine I really want to work with but we tried jamming and it's like he can just come up with something good without even thinking about it while I have to sit there and go back and forth for what feels like ages. Fuck
I guess it wouldn't be worth doing if it was easy though.
Ryder Walker
(How do I find people that can actually hang in a jam?)
Mason Baker
Hey guys, I just got into home recording and been playing a lot with microphone placement, but I want to get this kind of piano tone. How can I achieve it? Could it be because of small sized room?
Apparently the first gen 2i2 had a lower Max Input Level(+4dBu) and the first gen 2i4 had +13dBu (pad in) The second gen 2i2, 2i4 and solo all have Maximum input level +13 dBu. That means it probably won't clip, so it's okay.
Owen Gray
where do yall get yours samples?
I don't live near a record store.
Gabriel Brown
He added reverb to that after recording. Honestly it's possible that it's not even a real piano.
James Barnes
>record store lol
literally anywhere my man. reddit's got some stuff
i'm sure they're an improvement, but I wouldn't take the risk considering their track record
Gabriel Long
What's a safe max input level? The second gen levels seem safe. The issues people had were all on the first gen versions.
Anthony Jones
I tried to make a King Crimson song sound like OK Computer-era Radiohead
I finally came up with a song idea good enough to pursue after a two month stretch of nothing and made good early progress on it, so I'm quite happy with today's work
James Phillips
iktf user. I have to work with minimal shit. If I had a decent computer, I'd have to work with. but when you're on bare bones FL it's pretty tought to work with.
Ayden Torres
it goes hard
Nicholas Myers
Two weeks of doing nothing man. Literally nothing. Haven't worked on a single track. I wanted to focus on university but it's all fucked. I decided I'll join the navy cause I'm gonna get kicked if I don't drop out. My grades are fucked but at least I'll get a microphone soon.
Gabriel Nelson
I keep on making 10/10 synth patches that sound like some arca type crazy but I can't get around how bad of a songwriter I am :(
I finished lyrics for one of the last songs I have left on an so yesterday though so that's good \('_')/
Gabriel Flores
safe input level..? Well now I have to assume you're working with hardware synths so I guess what I was saying earlier doesn't matter since you can control your volume more easily
There's not a "safe" level with this stuff, clipping is just 0s and 1s, you're not doing any harm
Daniel Perry
At least you're looking up
I feel you user, for the past week I've not been able to think of anything to work on. I just keep making a bass line hoping something will pop out. And the only REAL tool I got to work with is 3XOSC which gets boring after a time
Robert Perez
Isn't the input level that determines how loud the instrument can be without clipping after going through the interface? From what I understood from other people having clipping issues with the first gen scarlett interfaces, the gain control didn't go low enough and the guitars and basses clipped, requiring a direct box to attenuate the guitar signal before going into the interface. Now the second gen scarlett interfaces have a higher max input level, meaning it can "handle" higher volume instruments like guitars without needing a direct box. Isn't this what a higher max input level means? Sorry if I sound like a bumbling retard, I'm just getting into recording.
Xavier Morales
I've noticed I find it really easy to come up with vocal melodies while playing the bass.
Is there a limitation to this because you can't play chords or is it perfectly possible to have implied 7th chords in your head as you play bass and sing?
Josiah Ortiz
Just play the 7th too..?
It just depends what you want, fill in he chords appropriately after you have a melody and root note, don't worry about it
Daniel Sullivan
"Input level" sounds more like it's referencing the source volume rather than preamp gain
I'm not sure of the exact range, I read about the 1st gen range on gear slutz a while back and it was objectively rated shit compared to other interfaces. I don't understand the math behind it so I can't really tell you what a safe gain range is desu
I did find a work around with di by using a pedal in between to lower my volume but meh. A di box is really rather redundant because scarletts already have hi-z inputs or whatever.
Jason Perry
(Forgot to even answer your question lol)
Yes you've got the right idea, though you should look up line mic and instrument levels if you don't already get what a di box is supposed to be for
Asher Wilson
is that a goya painting?
Nathaniel Harris
Yeah those are piano vsts, not the real deal. If you really wanted to recreate that sound I would record the piano as dry as possible and then add the reverb in post
Anthony Moore
Don't die
Lincoln Anderson
I feel awful right now, just wasted 2 hours on this. clyp.it/ao3pfxmu I don't think I should just fuck around anymore. It makes me feel so bad after.
William Foster
I think it's very nice, user. A bit generic, but it certainly has potential. Drums are the weakest part, but the lead and vocaloid are fantastic.
clyp.it/3ipt4jqc Made this while smoking and jamming with a friend. Critique please
Henry Long
thats the point, baby
Eli Rivera
Can you post a couple on clyp please? Really curious.
Michael Hernandez
I'm just starting out and I want to start watching tutorials about the basics, but for the next few months I'll mostly have time when I'm away from the computer, so does anyone have some good beginner tutorials that don't need a big screen to see what the guy's doing, so I can watch them on my phone?
I'm using Ableton, so preferably stuff that's not exclusive to other DAWs.
Thank you in advance.
David Perry
Youtube to dig then soulseek.
Nathan Clark
Is there a hardware unit like Maschine not for beats, but for ambient? Like slowly evolving drones?
Guys talking about getting a juno or a jupiter or whatever just get this fucking thing, more stable and actually sounds sentient
Hunter Flores
how do i make serum sound good?
Colton Mitchell
the maschine is just a controller, it could just as easily make ambient as hip hop
Owen Evans
I already have books, but need video tutorals too, since hearing the sounds and seeing the teachings being applied helps me learn much better.
Lucas Morris
Seems more beat focused, do you have one? I'd rather have a unit that was geared up for ambient instead of going against the grain of it or off its path
Connor Diaz
Think about what a controller set up for ambient music would need then - what would you need that Maschine (or Push, or any controller that facilitates high levels of integration with your music software) doesn't give you?
So you can trigger sound sources, you can manipulate them in real time, you can add effects to them and you can layer them - what are we missing?
Tyler Morales
>sounds sentient what?
Wyatt Brown
>slowly evolving drones
That's more a function of the sound that you're using rather than the way you're triggering it, but as an addition to one thing that you would probably find useful is an interactive mod matrix that's based on physics and collision detection like you get in Lemur and in TouchOSC apps.
Adrian Roberts
I want to do real time ambient without mouse clicking and dragging. Its a question if you can do long samples on maschine that you can morph into others and not be bound by beat sequencer. Thought someone may know of something other than a synth
Eli Russell
If it's not a synth (or sampler) then it would be a controller, and your choice of synth or sampler to control would be what makes your evolving sounds - all the controller would do is give you access to the synth or sampler's parameters.
Maschine is as good at that as others, but I'm inclined to think that some sort of generative feature, like the bouncing balls in Lemur and TouchOSC mentioned above would be something that you'd enjoy using, especially live.
Years ago there was a program called KoanX that also used bouncing balls and collision detection to generate MIDI data - I used it in the Win95/98 days (so did Brian Eno it seems) but I'm sure the last version I had also claimed to work on NT versions of Windows. The developers of that have diversified now and it might be worth looking at their current projects:
Thanks, I'm not so into the moving circles on a screen around, maybe try out maschine at a shop
Wyatt Rivera
looking for autotune recs. is downloading a free autotune plugin worthwhile or should i pirate a quality one?
Isaac Morgan
melodyne is the only thing you ever want to use when it comes to that
Alexander Powell
Sorry this mix is terrible Too much high end clashing with those crashes, too much distortion.... I'm guessing the drums sound robotic like that intentionally..?
The part you were asking about wasn't jarring at all
Too much reverb, do you think? I am working on the drums now, hats are next, but I have no idea what Im doing
Joshua Bailey
Anyone? Please?
Colton Smith
IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO
Michael Williams
The mix is definitely awful right now, I've only worked on it through my headphones so it probably sounds like trash through most other speakers And yeah, I was ideally going for that kind of Sissy Spacek sound with the drums
before 1:50 is too formless imo. it was cool for like a minute
Connor Williams
Dude, I think that track sounds really interesting, but the mix is much worse than just bad. You need new headphones at fucking once
Tyler Scott
and Im jamming out to Isle la Borracho atm, so you know Im not pissy or anything, I just want you to hear what I hear
Andrew Rivera
They're perfectly fine headphones, I think the issue is just that I wanted to emulate sounds like this, which may not be the best direction to head in:
I'm relatively new to production, this is one of my first attempts. It's an intro to a prog metal thing i'm doing. Looking for feedback from anyone who knows their shit
