I've been telling people recently that ledger Joker is overhyped and nobody would put the performance on a pedestal if not for the Cobain effect.
Recently I went back and rewatched it and, holy shit, he really is that good in this movie. How did a two bit actor like ledger go from shit like a Knight's Tale to this? Where did he find it in him? His Joker is legitimately scary and unsettling >this is how craaaazy batman's made gotham
I mean, the whole movie is structured around the Joker, which is why the pacing sucks. >Joker does x, heroes react >repeat
He even puts bale to shame in this movie. Where did it come from?
The Ledger Joker is legitimately one of the best performances this century.
You're either a contrarian or a bad judge of talent.
Parker Gray
a knights tale was good
Angel Wilson
shut the fuck up b8
Carter Nguyen
You stopped reading a long time ago.
John Harris
It was seven years between Knight's Tale and TDK. Ledger was a legitmately good actor.
Carter James
next educate yourself on the nirvana discog you fag
Luke Bailey
Heath Ledger was always magnetic in his personality. You just didn't realize it because you had this idea that he was just some heartthrob. His Joker is serious academy award material. No one's ever done that with a comic book character.
Watch Brokeback Mountain and Candy and you'll see how rich Heath Ledger's work is. It's a real treat that Nolan and him agreed to create his Joker.
Tyler Edwards
He's been beaten.
Daniel Morales
>I've been telling people recently that ledger Joker is overhyped and nobody would put the performance on a pedestal if not for the Cobain effect.
So you spouted memes to try and sound smart, then got a look at your own bullshit when your own, actual opinion reared around and slapped you in the face? Good.
And yes, Ledger was fantastic. The video he made where he questioned and killed the Batman cosplay faggot vigilante was the best scene in the movie.
>tell me, are you the Batman? >n-no >NOOOOO? NOOOOOO? THEN WHY DO YOU DRESS LIKE HIM? >look at me >no >LOOK AT ME
God he made Leto look like shit. Leto's Joker was just there. Ledger's joker was like "oh god, we need to stop this man".
Most people praised Ledger's performance before he died.
Justin Williams
Bleach is the only good album.
Gavin Gray
The reveal of the joker was a month or so before Ledger died and everyone was amazed by his transformation while Ledger was still alive.
The tragedy is that after a short career of playing the exact same shit pretty boy characters Ledger died before the film that showed he could completely change himself was released but not before people could see that it was going to make him a superstar.
What I'm saying OP is you're a fucking retard the likes of which claim TDK made so much money simply because of Ledgers death then ignore the fact that TDKR despite getting hate on still made more.
You're a fucking retard and you've only now caught on to a level of idiocy others had moved on from years ago.
Reevaluate your life.
Asher Rodriguez
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Caleb Sullivan
>I'm a contrarian >I realize the error in my ways and that something I blindly said was bad is actually really good >I still fail to grasp the movie
Nice thread OP
Josiah Hernandez
It's not like he was super old or anything at the time. Most of the actors we see finally start making a name for themselves are like mid 30s or some shit.
Parker Nelson
Remember, that's the bus with the TV reporter on it that he takes hostage.
Zachary Cruz
Why does the joker attract such a weird following?
Isaiah Hall
>I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you.... stranger
I honest to God believe that this one line was the catalyst that led to all those edgy kids going to hot topic and putting on the face paint
Justin Richardson
The joker character is a response to the problem of how to live one's life in a meaningless universe, as is Batman. Batman responds by creating his own meaning, the Joker abandons meaning and morality entirely and attempts to corrupt it in others.
The Joker's approach tends to resonate with lonely and depressed people, and often those that are misanthropic or socially inept.
Aaron Reyes
The joker character is a response to the problem of how to live one's life in a meaningless universe, as is Batman. Batman responds by creating his own meaning, the Joker abandons meaning and morality entirely and attempts to corrupt it in others.
The Joker's approach tends to resonate with lonely and depressed people, and often those that are misanthropic or socially inept.
Charles Gutierrez
People forget Ledger was still alive when the first trailer was released.
I still remember the reaction. There were some who were actually in denial that voice was really Heath.
Lucas Stewart
Nice dubs
Carter Johnson
>HD >serbian subtitles
Xavier Walker
I remember when the movie came out Sup Forums loved it , there was even a sticky for it then right when people started liking it Sup Forums turned on it and started shitting on Nolan. Glad to see this movie getting love on Sup Forums again.
Levi Allen
>I've been telling people recently that ledger Joker is overhyped and nobody would put the performance on a pedestal if not for the Cobain effect.
i thought it was incredible long before I'd heard that he died.
Anthony Hall
Yeah it's overrated. Literally a meme performance. *lips licks profusely* No different to Jared Leto's interpretation performance wise.
Leo Moore
bleach is the only good album pablo honey is the only good album jackie brown is the only good album tweez is the only good album
>two bit actor >was literally nominated for an Oscar before this
You're even stupider than I thought.
Nathan Flores
Because ledger wasn't a two-bit actor you pleb, he was always good.
He was great in the patriot, and he was fine in a knights tale.
For the record, the TDK is an ok movie, but not great, but ledger was great, bale was always a subpar batman
Luke Sullivan
>well As in a state of being devoid of needs and necessities, in this case it works as an interjection >hello As in greeting a person, sort of informal >beautiful As in a person whose physical appearance is a delight to witness. All together we can say that he used an interjection and then greeted a woman he found pretty.
Jason Collins
Holy shit you people are all fucking faggots. Nothing can be just "alright" anymore, it's either EHRMAHGOD BEST PERFORMANCE EVER IN THE CENDURY HE SHOULD WIN ALL OSCARD :D or WORST FUCKING SHIT LEDGER SHOULD KILL HIMSELF >:(
I'm really getting sick of this shit. Ledger was good, but let's be honest, there were definitely some bad moments in his performance, and overall it lacked nuance. If you honestly think this is the best performance in the century than you're not only a bad judge of talent but you're a pleb who desperately needs to watch more films.
Bentley Taylor
I cried watching brokeback mountain. Not even a puff. But that scene with the shirt got me bad
Nathaniel Russell
>definitely some bad moment in his performance, and overall lack nuance. Would you like to be more specific, because I completely disagree and one of the main praises his performance got was how much nuance there was.
Zachary Ward
I hate Christopher Nolan so fucking much
Xavier Russell
>literally the only time Joker yells in the entire movie
