Is Michelle Carter innocent? Are we really going to make forms of texting illegal? What about freedom of speech?

Is Michelle Carter innocent? Are we really going to make forms of texting illegal? What about freedom of speech?

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you cant shout fire in a crowded theater when there isnt one. there are limits to free speech.

Suicide = illegal
Promoting/helping suicide = promoting/helping a crime

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She should get the same penalty as a someone that helped plan a murder but didn't do the physical crime.

I beieve that's called an accessory

Pretty topical, speaking of which, what do you guys think of the titanic?

I watched the nude scene on pornhub, which was okay. The rest I heard was good too

But she was under the involuntary influence of Celexa, she couldn't control her lack of empathy. It's not her fault!

She can be an hero. That would be beautiful. I'd love to fuck her corpse in front of her fam.

Yep. She told him to kill himself, he didn't have to. Fuck him.

first tits I was allowed to see in a movie. I was like 7 or 8 maybe and my dick got hard.

How hard?

If he didn't commit suicide, she wouldn't be on trial

personally i think she did us all a favor by encouraging a mentally ill human to remove himself from the genepool. not saying she deserves a congressional award but i dont think she deserves to be punished with 20 years of jailtime

I dont know, i barely remember being a kid.

>CARTER: You’re fine. It’s gonna be okay. You just gotta do it, babe. You can’t think about it.
>CONRAD: Okay. Okay. I got this.
>CARTER: Yes, you do. I believe in you. Did you delete the messages?
>CONRAD: Yes. But you’re going to keep messaging me.
>CARTER: I will until you turn on the generator.

If only she can start convincing all the blacks to commit suicide

Freedom 9f speech is for political views, not driving a mentally ill person to suicide (both kids involved were psychiatric outpatients)

Should've deleted the messages

>CONRAD: Okay. Ha, ha I’m procrastinating.
>CARTER: Yeah, ha ha, I know. Are you back?
>CONRAD: Yup.
>CARTER: So it’s time?
>CONRAD: Oh, it’s been time.
>CARTER: Are you gonna do it now?
>CONRAD: I just don’t know how to leave them, you know.
>CARTER: Say you’re gonna go the store or something.
>CONRAD: Like, I want them to know that I love them.
>CARTER: They know. That’s one thing they definitely know. You’re over thinking.
>CONRAD: I know I’m over thinking. I’ve been over thinking for a while now.
>CARTER: I know. You just have to do it like you said. Are you gonna do it now?

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>The couple then speak for 40+ minutes on the phone, while he was gassing himself.
>Carter later tells a friend by text that Conrad exited the car when he realised the carbon monoxide poisoining was taking effect.
>Carter persuaded him to get back in.
>He died soon afterwards.
>His body was found in his pick-up truck after his parents reported him missing.
>In the time between Conrad’s death and his body being found, Carter had contacted his family to ask if they knew where he was.

>implying that there aren't illegal forms of speech.

This is the thing with people, usually on the right, they don't think past the name and think they understand the whole concept.

For example they think:
"free speech" means you can say whatever you like whenever you like.
"Global warming" must be false, because it is cold sometimes.
The "theory of evolution" isn't scientific fact, because it's just a theory.

This is what happens when simple people try to understand concepts that involve even a little bit of thought.

Where can I obtain videos described in your picture. Strictly for research of course.

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She looks hotter when she scribbles in her eyebrows darker

This whole thread is gold I love you Sup Forumsros

>award for helping to off mentally ill person
>she's also mentally ill

Rope's strong enough for two bodies -- it's not like we can't squeeze in one more idiot. :D

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she just needs eyebrow-length bangs to balance everything out.

She just needs a sex tape

She guilty nigger.

Her punishment should be death by gang rape. Any man willing to show up gets to rape her anyway he wants until he nuts, men with STDs go last.
Then send her body to mom and dad to bury what's left

user that picture lies. Not same girl

Google dirty pig girl bondage. She's British

no, she should get the same time as dr kevorkian did to assist suicide.

after all, that's exactly what she did.

RIGHT THERE, she is admitting guilt, and her mind set is she knows what she is doing isnt' right.

If she didn't think she was doing anything wrong. She wouldn't need to reaffirm the deletion of any texts.

should she be punished for this inhumanity? probably. its not like it was a single incident. she kept pressing him for days or weeks.


should this be the base to change laws or anything? FUCK NO.

any attempts to bring up law changes based on a retarded case like this are alarming.

the wolves always look for reasons to limit your rights, fat inhabitants of burgerland.

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Dr kervavovan is serving time? What the fuck is the story with this?

That's the problem with this case. If she is guilty, the laws change.

This needs to be enforced. Can we make a government program that trains women to do this?

It's not like she had any tangible part in his death. I could see MAYBE charging her as an accessory since she did help him plan it, or maybe gross negligence resulting in death for not at least calling someone else, but MANSLAUGHTER? MURDER??! Nah.

So we can't say kys faggot anymore?

He help youths in Asian

She should be on trial for the planning or the negligence, not the texts she sent encouraging him. Is it illegal to encourage someone to kill someone else? Is it illegal to say 'I hope so and so kills themselves'?

If she's guilty then it might become that way

But why? Common sense dictates that she should at least be charged with hatecrime or something the likes of that and serve a year or two in prison.

Hardest case, she would be charged with something like assisted murder and serve even longer.

Why would the laws change to punish this womens obvious ill intent?

She well get off with a slap on the wrist, maybe community service and a year in jail or some shit

Depends on what you mean by tangible.

It seems highly likely that without her influence, he probably wouldn't have done it. Especially since she told him to get back in when he chickened out.

If she had done nothing at that point, he would still probably be alive today. But she did something, and that something result in his death.

Why not?

charge of involuntary manslaughter, makes perfect sense. why do laws need changing over that?

I mean, I'm pretty sure it's classified as hate speech.

Murica, land of the free

But she's hot.

Should have done it over phone no txt. Problly just wanted to feel like she took a life.

lol @ "freedom of speech"
you don't seem to even understand what that means
freedom of speech is a constitutional right of freedom from government to make speeches or writings they find too critical or are opposed to
it was a right of free press extended to individuals as well in order to be allowed to speak out against the government

it is NOT freedom to say anything you want
there have been multiple subpoenas served on Sup Forums lately for the user around here constantl blasting the president and he even posted severed head type stuff
it was in the news here locally and the guy's house was raided and he's trying to fight it in court with "freedom of speech" and every legal analyst is laughing at him

this is why the multiple, daily anti-Trump threads stopped
it was literally one user doing all this

Excellent question. I think the Titanic was big. Real big. I heard they even called it the Titanic. It was that fucking big. Seriously.

Wtf is hate speech? That's some fascist buzz word to get people riled up against words. They're just words dude. The kid killed himself. If I tell you to jump into a fire and you do it, I'm not guilty, why should she be?!

Supreme Court ruled hate speech isn't a thing in America 3 separate times. Only cases where you threaten specific people or incite violence or panic are illegal. Like they said can't yell fire can't say " I will kill you nigger". Can say " I hope all niggers die" or "I want all specs to choke on beans". Even in front of a group of blacks or Mexicans. Keep your shitty EU laws away from my country.

>freedom of speech

Freedom of speech means that your governing powers cannot come and shoot your ass for voicing dissent in politics.

Freedom of speech does not mean you get to run your uneducated mouth run freely like a pleb

I love you

>They're just words, dude.
>t. Doesn't actually understand what "freedom of speech" means and covers

>telling someone to kill themselves isn't inciting violence
So, were you dropped on your head as a child, or just born that retarded?

Google it. You will get better answers than from Sup Forums.

Is suicide violence if it's peaceful?

Man take a chill pill I never said that she wasn't inciting violence. That is for 12 of her peers to decide. Merely stating that your buzz word is a shitty miss use of vocabulary in a issue involving a American citizen. Like I said take your shit EU laws away from my country. Further more ad hominem won't win a argument.
.Thank you bro so many people are miss informed on the issue.

Suicide is self-murder. It's always violent, by definition.


Violence: behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.


Suicide kills the man. Therefore, violent.

>ad hominem won't win an argument

>shitposting on a Vietnamese Underwater Basket Weaving forum counts as debate


Truly, you are a scholar and a a mentlegen.

"Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the Supreme Court, held that the prohibition against hate speech was unconstitutional as it contravened the First Amendment. ... Thus, the Supreme Court embraced the idea that speech in general is permissible unless it will lead to imminent violence."

>meth-addicted rape pig

jesus my sides

not a gentlemen bro probably the biggest asshole narcissistic, person you will ever meet. just well versed in philosophy and machiavellianism, ad study constitutional law and law in general as a hobby. Going to school to be a clinical neurologist Atm.

She was charged with manslaughter, which I think is a stretch. Any legalfags here know is Massachussetts has a law on the books about "depraved indiferrence?" I suspect not. If she is convicted, I worry that every dipshit who says "kys, faggot" could be charged with a crime.

What she did was wrong, but I don't think it should be a crime. Also, my understanding is that she did it to get attention. My heart really goes out to her, because she was young, white, and pretty, probably had a lot of advantages that most people don't have, and yet she felt alone.

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stopped reading after genepool, clearly a retard edgelord waste of air wrote this. i believe her punishment should be everybody and i mean everybody in her proximity to actively agitate for her to kill herself, that her life isn't worth living anymore and all that. any romantic relationship turning into a guy just cumming in her and throwing her away like an old rag until she becomes middle aged and unattractive, no one deciding to give her haven of marriage, leaving her in a demeaning and soulsucking job, having to spend ridiculous amounts of money for the people of the lowest kind to pretend to like her for a coupla hours and so on

you know theres government and state assisted suicides right?

Just like the pedoshits, zooshits, corpse-fucker-shits, christ-degenerates, conservo-liberal-whoopdee-fucks, everyone's got this thing that they want to be legal, and all of it involves fucking with someones elses shit.

Rule of life: don't, or you get the chair.

She should be strung up by her titties for a week to let the crows pick at her

this bitch probably thought up until recently she was getting away

i wonder if it has sunk in yet that her name is poison, people will always know who she is no matter where she goes, good luck getting a job better than target in your life

Decent production values, sounds like a cross between a retarded Kendrick Lamar and the "BloodSugarSexMagic"-era Red Hot Chili Peppers. As an original work, I like that you crammed in details from the case while keeping the mood irreverant. This is incredibly tasteless, and I am a huge fan of tasteless humor. Well done.

I think she's pretty.

You can shout fire in a crowded theater, dumbass. That's dicta from a case from the early 20th Century, which has been subsequently been ignored.

How is it on fantasy island.

Savage.
She definitely needs to be locked up forever

From his suicide note to her: "Go on YouTube type in Rocky Balboa quote, and let the light guide you." Can we all do this for him?

She's not charged with conspiracy to commit suicide, she's charged with involuntary manslaughter. That means that her boyfriend's agency in his own killing is not part of the elements of what she is charged with. Rather, she is being treated as though her own actions or reckless conduct directly caused his death. And her own actions were only speech.

So you like fatties?

I appreciate it man. You might like this one then too
soundcloud.com/capricanno/busy-as-a-priest-1

>Sup Forums bullies a kid into suicide
>obviously not ok
>girl encourages kid into suicide
>maybe might be ok we better have a think about this

Are women ever going to be actually treated like equals, or forever with the kid gloves?

I live in the same town, and went to school with this girl. That kid was not her boyfriend, she just strung him along because she felt bad for him and he wouldnt leave her alone.

How and why the media have been pushing it as them being a couple i dont understand.

also ama i guess.

but we are anomylous

In the US, direct threats of imminent violence are illegal, and commercial speech gets less protection than other speech, but those are the only criminally "illegal" forms of speech. Defamation and private facts are only actionable civilly.

>user criticizes others for not knowing whole concept
>user doesn't know the whole concept
>Sup Forums in a nutshell

Women will never be treated equal. Thats why we need feminism user

>She should be on trial for the planning or the negligence
>negligence
>civil, not criminal, wrong
Fuck off to your basement, faggot

Can you send the Michelle Carter song to all of your friends?
soundcloud.com/capricanno/michelle-carter

very bleak cousin. in wods of john lennon, imagine. it would be right, at least give me that

>hatecrime
who's the protected class, faggot? White emo defectives?
>assisted murder
You're just making shit up, now.

>If she had done nothing at that point, he would still probably be alive today. But she did something, and that something result in his death.
>Trump gets elected
>Crazy man shoots a bunch of Republicans
>If Trump hadn't run, Republicans wouldn't have gotten shot
>Charge Trump with attempted murder

Your logic is flawless, user.

>not knowing criminal negligence is a thing

>hate speech
>hate speech isn't illegal
>user has no clue what hate speech is, so he applies it to any "bad" speech
>user occasionally browses msnbc during his refractory period between furious loli masturbation sessions, picks up new term to use on Sup Forums

Well now, thats a huge stretch you are taking there.

>it was a right of free press extended to individuals as well in order to be allowed to speak out against the government
You're so fucking wrong.
But keep saying "lol" to convince yourself you've got a keener grasp on first amendment jurisprudence than everyone else.

That's a pretty shitty analogy, user.

It's 2017; everyone knows you have the right to free speech as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, offend anyone, make anyone feel differently about something, make someone uncomfortable, encourage someone to do anything, or uses any racial slurs or profanity.

>no such thing as criminal negligence
>only "reckless" conduct or "wanton" conduct
>user has no clue about general intent, specific intent, or mens rea elements in criminal statutes or common law crimes
>mfw when I've argued that my client's conduct wasn't sufficiently reckless under charging statute

Fuck off back to editing Wikipedia pages, pleb.