/f1/ - Formula 1 General - Stroll WDC edition

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Winter Stream
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News
>Paddy Lowe's contract with Merc lasts until May and negotiations with Williams are delaying Bottas announcement
>Manor declared bankrupt
>Max sat in economy class on a plane


Car launch dates:
>21/02 Renault
>22/02 Force India
>23/02 Mercedes
>24/02 Ferrari

#StrollWDC2017

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formula1.about.com/od/teamlogistics/a/How-The-F1-Teams-Travel-The-World.htm
ca.news.yahoo.com/swiss-town-denies-passport-to-dutch-vegan-because-she-is-annoying-125316437.html
news.motorsportvision.co.uk/msv-acquires-donington-park.aspx
motorsport.com/f1/news/manor-facing-january-20-deadline-to-find-investor-864841/
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First for this is Ferrari's year

So how did the henno saga end? Anything new besides shitposting?

As I was saying last thread, Renault are probably going to pull some stupid shit for their car """launch""" like in 2016. My guess is a 2016 car with a testing livery, a place holder rear wing and wide tires.

amx verstacken has access to a private jet

why in the fuck would he take a pleb class passenger plane?

youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0

In their >24 hours till race or w/e the series is the team flies together on regular people flights
It sounds like it happened early I him joining RB so he probably wanted to get to know them

>came home a bit drunk at 2
>not too drunk to fall right asleep so sleep like shit and be awake again
Sucks 2bh

Nice quads

I'm surprised one of the teams don't have a private passenger jet for all of their travelling members. There's like 60-80 people that go to the races for each team, so I'm figuring why bother with the airlines. If it were to happen my guess is that it would be Redbull since the company already have a thing for aviation. It would probably also cut down a little bit on freight costs as well as be used for other red bull events the rest of the year o in between races.

how about even more wings though?

Too many wings isn't a good idea, pic related crashed on its second flight.

I don't think freight matters much
>For Formula One teams one of the biggest battles of a race weekend or testing session will be over before a car even turns a wheel: the vast logistical effort required to get all of the team's equipment to the circuit - so vast, in fact, that the sport has its very own Official Logistics Partner, DHL.
formula1.com/en/championship/inside-f1/understanding-f1-racing/Logistics.html
Could be out dated, but it is probably cheaper to fly the team on pleb planes and the cars on DHL
I'm guessing for European races the teams just drive their trucks? Which then the team just flies.

I'm sure you aren't the first to think >we should have our own plane and there is bound to be a reasonable explanation as to why they don't do it. Even if it is just because DHL is contracted to move their shot and they have to do it through them

the number of wings is irrelevant to how well it flies.

actually, the fact that thing was going fast enough to get off the ground in the first place is incredible enough.

Here is another link that seems to explain bits quora.com/How-are-Formula-1-cars-transported-between-Grand-Prix-venues

yeah boats aren't supposed to fly

Another fairly interesting link
formula1.about.com/od/teamlogistics/a/How-The-F1-Teams-Travel-The-World.htm

Now to further elaborate on this idea, how about for the European races that are reasonably close (Silverstone, Barcelona, Monaco, etc.), the race team could drive a convoy of RedBull Minis to the event for that top quality maximum branding.

I was figuring freight would probably be contracted to DHL, then again there's also sea freight for the fly away racesso it might be that it's only FOM and not the teams, or maybe only a discount, but with their own plane there's no way they'd have a full cargo hold just from luggage so why not stick some of their freight in with it?

these things must be horribly unaerodynamic

RB must get Newey to redesign these cars.

...

>people think McLaren will go back to the Red and White livery style because muh classic era

Did people also forget that the livery was entirely dictated by who their biggest sponsor at the time was, and that sponsor is no longer involved with McLaren, and that displaying the logos of companies from that specific industry is no longer allowed in Formula 1?

btw guys I also think the new Renault livery is going to be a throwback to the classic Benetton Camel livery, they are the same team afterall and it would be a great tip of the hat to us real fans who appreciate the classic era!

ca.news.yahoo.com/swiss-town-denies-passport-to-dutch-vegan-because-she-is-annoying-125316437.html
>toothpastes are too annoying even outside of /f1/

That things wings were probably too heavy for it to fly properly. I'm sure adding just two more wings on a modern plane would be possible, but not very useful anyway.

No we are expecting the opposite of what it is now. For example Sensodyne livery

Joking aside they will want to distinguish themselves apart from their current livery as a new era of McLaren. So expecting a brighter livery is pretty reasonable 2bh

A FUCKING LEAF

>Stoffel Vandorne is dating a 'racing' driver

Why is every new driver seemingly in a breeding program with female drivers?

What's the story behind the two homeless bums?

>Angélique Detavernier

2016
Blancpain GT Endurance, Nurburgring, AMG GT3
VdeV, Paul Ricard, Audi R8 GT3
24H of Zolder, Porsche 991 GT3 Cup
Funcup, Dubai, VW Funcup

2015
Maserati Trofeo Worlds Series, Paul Ricard & Redbullring, Maserati MC Stradale
24 Hours of Zolder, Porsche GT3 997 Cup
Funcup 25 Hours, vw fun cup

2014
Maserati Trofeo World Series, Maserati Gran Turismo MC Trofeo, 2 races
Supercar Challenge, Porsche GT3 997 Cup, 5 races
24 Hours of Zolder, Porsche GT3 997 Cup
Funcup 25 Hours, vw fun cup


looks like sucking dick gets you in all sorts of GT cars, I might try it

Photographers for a magazine shoot taken at Zolder

>Red and White
Also Japan (honda) colours, baka binland

Lauda Air reboot when?

>Oh How we were wrong!

Well guys, with Bottas all but confirmed at Mercedes and Manor on the verge of collapse we've effectively got our grid for next year.

Who wants to make shit predictions that some British Faggot will collect in a collage and repost later in the year for a brief chuckle at his Autism like we did last year.

I'll start

>Ricciardo WDC
>RBull dominate CC
>McLaren still fail to win - Alonso Rage Quits
>Hulkenberg gets cheeky podium before being given a time penalty
>Wehrlein loses all credentials
>If post number is a driver, he gets Killed

>Hamilton WDC
>Bottas does well at Mercedes anyway
>Ricky Max tensions
>RB and Merc close to equal
>Kimi's strong form continues
>Ferrari's form doesn't continue
>McLaren is ok and will get a podium but not a win
>Vandoorne will perform well against Alonso
>Stroll makes some rookie mistakes but overall does well
>Pirelli fucks something up again

I reckon Stroll will do everything AMX has done, but everyone will call him out on it. But the Williams is probably gonna be pisspoor so all the daring overtakes will fail

He'll crash it once every raceweekend I bet.

Stroll doesn't have half the talent Max does. You can watch both of their F3 races, Verstappen pulled crazy moves all the time and really did display good racing instinct and car control. He didn't win, but he had great battles with the best in the field and generally came out on top.

Stroll on the other hand won because of considerable machinery advantage, and winning from the front row, in the best team on the grid. Verstappen raced with Van Amesfoort which was pretty unknown prior to him and don't have the resources Prema does. If you drive a Prema in F3 you are pretty much guaranteed to win as long as you are better than your teammates. Stroll didn't even have particularly competitive teammates lol

Most of the time Stroll goes for a crazy move it either doesn't work or there's a crash. At this point I honestly don't rate him higher than a Felipe Nasr or even Jolyon Palmer

Lance Stroll will crash in FP2 of the Melbourne Grand Prix.

How much sandbagging will the top teams be doing during the FP's at the AUS GP?

>Russia
>ultrasoft

Atleast Pirelli is FINALLY learning

inb4
>ultrasoft can complete an entire race distance

>Pirelli assigns strict limitations on how many laps a tire can do, destroying any semblance of strategy and everyone runs the exact same strategy and pits on the same lap

its finished

They have tyres built with the same construction as last years as backup if the new ones start failing.

How do you rate him against Son of Eric?

>Vettel WDC
>Mercedes Chokes
>Bottas Beats Lewis
>Lewis Throws His Toys Out Of The Pram
>Ricky Beats Amx
>Amx Crashes Into Ricky
>Red Bull > Mercedes

Hard to say really. I do think Nasr is quite an underrated driver though. Ericsson just isn't very good. He was in GP2 for four years and got 3 wins out of it. Haryanto got 3 wins as well (although his were all sprint races) and Maldonado and Palmer won GP2 in 4 years. I'll say he is worse than Stroll, at least Stroll has some raw pace. If Wehrlein doesn't conclusively beat Ericsson, his F1 career is finished.

I'll still reserve judgment until Stroll actually drives in F1, but the one thing is clear that he is not a Verstappen 2.0. As much as the toothpastes are annoying, it is hard to deny that Verstappen is not a typical driver and quite exceptional in his racecraft.

i was part of mclaren's livery focus group (yes they had a focus group) ama

What is their new livery going to be?

BLACKED or not

What did you discuss

>>Vettel WDC
kek, no chance, if this happens I'll drive around town naked

>Hulkenberg gets cheeky podium before being given a time penalty

If that, confirmed Hulk suicide in Brackley

news.motorsportvision.co.uk/msv-acquires-donington-park.aspx
>MSV (company owned by Joe, Lee and Palmer's dad) has bought Donington Park

fug, now they own literally every UK track except Silverstone

Winter Stream: Brazil 2010

>H U L K O N P O L E
>Williams First Pole Since 2005 w/ Quick Nick
>Dry Race, 25 C

>F1-fan fantasy


which exciting shade of gray/grey awaits us coming season?
that's not a very bold bet tho, why wouldn't you drive around naked?

I think only airlines with very few exceptions like Air Force One have the money to own and maintain an airliner

I mean not that you couldn't do it if you really wanted to, but it's definitely always cheaper just to charter flights

Please let this be the end of F1 at Silverstone for at least a year or two.

>I do think Nasr is quite an underrated driver though
I kinda feel the same, but it's hard to tell because you barely see him racing anyone. /f1/ generally seems to think he's equal or worse then Ericsson, including non-swedes.

>but the one thing is clear that he is not a Verstappen 2.0
I didn't mean to imply that; it's more that when AMX fucked up no one really called him out on it. Stroll will be the second driver to leap the same way AMX did, and also he's a pay driver, so I think media and fans are gonna be doubly harsh on him.

Next they'll start buying carparks used for autocross

What's the story behind this? Ron got mad because Senna dropped his trophy?

>Senna

Kill yourself

we were asked our opinions on four different livery options; one was orange like in 2006 testing, one was the current livery but with more red, one with red and white (but they made it clear it wouldn't be the marlboro design and one with a light grey/silver and red. orange was most popular in the group

we were shown the liveries as movie concept art style, as if the livery designers just sketched it on paper and cleaned up the pencil lines after adding colour

Lads is Sainz still a virgin? just look at that hoverhand

You voted for red and white, didn't you?

i thought he was banging one of the spanish movistar presenters?

Yeah. I think everyone was surprised at how well Verstappen dealt with it and IMO he did a lot better than what I was expecting so I guess people could see that the talent was there and he didn't really look out of his element, just immature.

Also yes he is a son of a racing driver but his path to F1 wasn't money, at least not so blatantly. Red Bull chose him and then sponsored him. Stroll on the other hand had his dad buy a share in Williams and is still paying more than Maldonado did for that seat. So he is a straight up paydriver, which is why he will and should be criticized harder. I still don't see why he didn't do a season of GP2. He's barely 18 now and it hardly makes a difference if you're 18 or 19 when you debut. Vandoorne is 25 FFS and Damon Hill made it to F1 at age 34 or something lol.

I think Stroll will have a lot more rookie mistakes and questionable moments overall, but who knows, maybe all that testing really paid off. He is still a paydriver of almost unprecedented levels with actual private sponsorship rather than corporations/countries/banks, which sets him apart from most paydrivers as well.

I thought he was single

He had a GF a while back.

or prost :DD

couldn't see who it was in the shot of the dropping

T O P K E K

>Ham easy WDC
>Bottas gets 2/3 wins when Lewis is hangover
>Silly Red Bull wins in Hugary/Singapore or tracks like that
>Ricky overhaul bullies Max but can gets beaten hard by amx in a couple of occasions making him pretty angry, leaves RB at the end of the season
>Ferrari biggest ? of the season by now, could aswell be the Red Bull of 2016 or Red Bull of 2015, not big chances anyway
>In equal conditions Vettel would beat Gimi but since Ferrari's "luck" exists they will never be in equal conditions bcause of meme strategies, gearbox changes and torpedo-kvy
>McLaren pulls out a podium or two maybe, all Alonso's
>Vandoorne does well anyway
>Renault-Toro Rosso-Williams-Fore India do their stuff middle of the grid
>Haas beats Sauber hard
>Pirelli will switch back to old compound tyres because Mercedes complains
>Charlie will come up with some silly regulations that will be kept for two races
>4 wet starts

It might be but then I remembered: when have things ever really gotten better in F1? They'd probably find a track that's even worse.


Prost gave the trophy to the Italian fans as a sample of what's to come when he joins Ferrari next season and Ron's autism erupted when they pulled it apart instantly and he never got it back. McLaren have never allowed a driver to keep his own trophies again.

Ron keeps all the original drivers trophies, and gets replicas made for the drivers.
He considers them property of the team. He's a cunt.

This incident happened at the Italian GP just after it had been announced that Prost had signed for Ferrari for the following season. Prost, eager to please his new tifosi fans, dropped the trophy down to them, which they immediately ripped in to a dozen pieces fighting for it.

Ron, being Ron, sperged out.

Prost was leaving McLaren at the end of the season to join Ferrai, in order to make fans happy he "gave" the trophy to them

it really got his brain juices flowing

not sure if true or trolling

They look like walking STDs, I wouldn't want to touch one of them either.

>never got it back

Met a guy who got an handler, told me it became even funnier when he discovered Ron went full autism because of it

I wonder what happened to niki laudas trophies, does the car wash guy still have them? Have any come up for sale at some point?

>Ricky WDC, sealing it with a race to spare
>Bottas totally outshines Hamilton
>Amx and Hamilton in a comfy third and fourth
>Gimi is close to Vettel again, Gimi ponders whether to go on again in 2018 or hang up the helmet. More swear words from Mr Vettel
>McHonda is not solve, Alonso walks away
>Sainz and Kvyat have surprisingly good years. One may snag a podium
>Renault is not solve
>Williams = JUST
>Haas goes backwards with no magical races like Melbourne and Bahrain to help them
>Sauber...

motorsport.com/f1/news/manor-facing-january-20-deadline-to-find-investor-864841/

manor can still be saved lads
if they find a buyer in the next week they can still be ready for melbourne (but probably will miss the first test at the least?)

What's the minimum they could show up to Melbourne with to claim an entry? Could they do like 2015?

they already faced Bernie's wrath for not participating in Melbourne because they'd missed the last three races of 2014; in the teams' contracts with FOM or whoever it states they're not allowed to miss more than three race meetings in the duration of their contract

Why even bother, they are going to be last again anyway

with an owner willing to pump a bit of cash into the team they could beat Sauber, who seem to think the 2016 Ferrari engine will be anywhere near competitive

Because it gives you drivers / engineers a chance to shine. Look at what they've done for Wehrlein / Ocon / Bianchi / Rossi's reputation.

Even if they are last, at least they can throw up some upsets and affect the grid

F1 needs a Minardi

/f1/ should buy Manor 2bh

>Drivers' Championship points were awarded on a 9–6–4–3–2–1 basis to the first six finishers in each race. Only best 11 results counted toward the championship.[3] Prost scored 105 points during the year, but only 87 points were counted toward the championship. Senna scored 94 points, with 90 points counted toward the championship by virtue of winning more races. Thus, Senna became the World Champion, although he did not score the most points over the course of the year.

>people will defend this

How would Senna/Prost be remembered if Prost was a 5x WDC and Senna only won two?

With all the spare income of NEETs. SUUUUURRRREEE That'll go great

If everyone chipped in we'd probably be able to buy a 1 race sponsorship spot. Sort of like what leddit did for Dogecoin and NASCAR.

I think the same because Prost is really unlikable, and everyone would say 'Senna was the moral victor' for one or more.

the combined salary of all regular /f1/ posters is less than 7k euros probably

under the current points system wouldn't Prost have as many championships as Schumi?

>Prost is really unlikable

Kill yourself

He is. He's as arrogant as Hamilton.

ok, I'll bite
>the calculating le Professour couldn't win more races knowing it counted more for the championship
Same argument used by Lewis fans last year, but guess what? In the end it's the with more points to be crowned WDC.

>How would Senna/Prost be remembered if Prost was a 5x WDC and Senna only won two?
Yes, because people still remembers Lauda/Hunt, even though they didn't hated each other openly like Senna and Prost at the time.

Now fuck off, you mong

Prost is unlikable if your opinion of him is based on the Senna movie.

Yes, Prost is selfish and arguably a bit dirty with his politics but people seem to forget Senna was exactly the same. He just forced a mysticism around his character and was better at speaking English and funnier, which somewhat overshadowed the fact that he was in fact a massive cunt on track and a pretty big cunt off track as well.

Fuck you. Do it.

youtube.com/watch?v=2-BtquTKw78

Prost was self-confident, not disrespectfully arrogant.

t. angry monkey

Senna seems more well liked among drivers, whereas Prost doesn't seem to be. There's numerous stories of Senna being a shitter, but often it's followed by 'he apologized profusely that evening'.

>prost is flawless because normies and reddit like senna
This is what you think, and it's pathetic

Also, you said 'how would it be remembered', and the Senna movie would have been made the same more or less, and the biased view of Prost would still be there.

How would Senna be remembered had he not died? Literally just a better version of Piquet?

Reminder that his career would have progressed like this:

>ass bamboozled by le fast german in 1994
>ass bamboozled by le fast german in 1995
>probably seek out new team as an answer, maybe go to Benetton, maybe go back to McLaren
>Williams wins 96 97, Senna stuck in shitboxes
>Goes to McLaren for 98 for one final try now that they have Adrian Newey
>get ass bamboozled by prime-era GOAT Mika in 98 for good measure
>retire or desperately seek a team where he could be no. 1 again, Ferrari blocked because muh Schumi
>Schumi goes onto win 90 gorillion races and championships in a row
>Senna exposed as a homosexual half of his remaining Brazilian fans disown him

>Belgian driver set to join McLaren
>paint the car orange

Is this racism?

Only if he was a true Toothpaste

It's okay. Belgium isn't a real country.

You are now aware that Amx is Belgian

>born in Belgium
>lives in the Netherlands
>literally an immigrant

Winter Stream: Abu Dhabi 2010

>Title Finale
>Alonso v Petrov
>Schumi Almost Gets Decapitated