>attend city council meeting about vaping >step to the microphone with others to voice opposition to letting these people blow poison all over the place, and the risks of vapes exploding >disgusting losers step to microphone to whine about "benefits" of vaping >city votes to ban vaping from all public parks and walkways, within 20 feet of all city buildings, from all city transportion, to block vape shops from being within a mile of any school, and to work ahead of the FDA to ban all free samples >vapefags get super pissed, some are escorted from the room
We only ban toxic things that shitty rude people do, don't get your panties in a knot.
Logan Stewart
They did a similar thing in my town with bowls and stuff. No store can sell bowls but you can goto the next town over to get the.
Angel Jackson
>meanwhile kikes pour HFCS and fluoride into americas water to turn everyone into fat obedient fucks while the goyim are distracted with the vape debate
Easton Hall
>I'm a fat fuck with no self control >blame the jews!
Caleb White
>justifying people poisoning the air based on conspiracy theories
You need to be old enough to use a vape to be part of this discussion.
Anthony Brooks
>poisoning the air
cite it
Nolan Taylor
>hurt your feeling
they are literally hurting you physically
Anthony Hill
cite its not
Adrian Foster
>vape chemical manufacturers admit the fluid can produce a byproduct which is known to be harmful to your health >"IT'S NOT BAD FOR YOU MAN!"
Daniel Myers
I'm a liberalist and oppose bullshit regulations like that, but gotta admit, its pretty funny.
Logan Collins
Good.
Weed is the only acceptable form of vaping.
Luis Watson
>implying all vape juices are made from the same chemicals
Christian Jenkins
still waiting
Henry Moore
lol you attended a council meeting to stop people from blowing steam
Carter Cox
they almost all have the same glycol base, numpty
Landon Sanders
There is no 2nd hand smoke danger from vaping you soccer mom pussy
Brody Price
You probably don't even know what is in e liquid dumbass
Robert Lewis
Itt: soccer moms
Julian White
god you people are retarded
so, what, it all just vanishes into atoms? the smell from them is just in my head?
die already
Easton Rogers
Are you retarded
Luke Turner
Fucking vapoids, when will they learn.
Samuel Wilson
>ofw we watched the tape
Nathan Lee
not how burden of proof works, summerfag
Lincoln Hill
still waiting
Colton Foster
The "smoke" is just water vapor you know right u don't get poison when you go outside in the rain do you
William Torres
Like manspreading?
Brody Fisher
Only a dipshit thinks that vapes all explode. Seriously, its only niggers who don't understand Ohms Law that run Mech mods that do it.
Survival of the fittest. Kill yourself faggot.
Asher Morgan
Give a source. Back your claim.
I don't blame these people for trying to find an alternative to cigarettes that's more acceptable. Trying to quit smoking is a long and difficult process depending on the environment.
I personally don't smoke but I see how they're treated and it worries me. First smokers, what next? You can only drive electric cars because fuel cars smell? Sure I would love to replace a $3000 battery every so often.
Grayson Torres
Why would you want a filthy fedoras carbon mist inside of you
Hunter Bennett
source and I'm asking for a source, you know, some kind of evidence. "it's just watervapor reeeeee" isn't a source
Wyatt Davis
Why would you want Jamals black cocktail inside of your wife?
James Lopez
Cuz it's better then smoking 2.5 packs a day
Adrian Martinez
Try not smoking/vaping anything at all bud.
Evan Clark
Is there any point at all for vaping?
Jacob Baker
smoking 1 pack a day is also better than smoking 2.5 a day.
Carson Cox
healthier alternative if you must smoke
Alexander Kelly
We're are the deadly chemicals at???? Some one pls tell me
Leo Anderson
Less dangerous than smoking. But you're still a degenerate addict who has no willpower and can't control himself.
Sebastian Parker
>all I want you to do it prove a negative >why won't you
Nicholas Cooper
propelene glycol, like in antifreeze
Jace Hill
>implying when you fucking turn that shit into vapor that you're not forming carcinogens Did you even take a Chemistry class in your life?
Michael Lee
so there's no proof that vaping has no second hand affects?
Caleb Ortiz
>vaping
Jeremiah Davis
Isn't vaping just vapor water? Or now you put another substance to that shit that is harmful?
Ryan Cook
Which was added to make it less deadly to pets that would ingest it
David Cox
>getting baited this hard stay classy, mouth fedoras
Josiah Torres
propelene glycol is in antifreeze to reduce the hazardous effects of the antifreeze
Leo Mitchell
NICE, hahahah weaklings BTFO
Carter Young
Nicotine is fucking deadly m8, op is still a huge fucking faggot tho.
Andrew Hernandez
Propylene glycol like in packaged food
Kayden Rogers
Wrong. Ethylene glycol is anti freeze. Propel energy glycol is an artificial sweeter
Correct out of all the things nicotine is only one dangerous it's also the smallest ingredient in there
Ryder Reed
Ayy sick cloud brah.
Anthony Rivera
My friend is a pulmonary medicine doctor and his casual response when I asked him about it was that lots of this stuff they honestly don't know the answer to. His bet is that it does harm your lungs to some extent, but how much is hard to say. They need to do long term studies and by the time those are done will be a long time.
I can't see why it would be good to inhale that vaporized...
Jayden Watson
>Projecting this hard.
Aren't you the one with your feelings hurt?
dude weed lmao.
Ayden Walker
Bitch, I quit smoking cold turkey. Fuck off with your "long and difficult process" bullshit. Just don't fucking smoke. Maybe chew some gum if you have to have something in your mouth.
Jason Hughes
I bang a 45 year old ER Nurse and she says the same thing. We don't know fully what it does, but it does create small build up in some of the airways from water vapor, etc.
>inb4 Buhhh it's healthier
I never said it wasn't faggot. It's OBVIOUSLY healthier than smoking cigarettes. No one can deny that. Fat bong rips to the lung isn't going to kill you, but that doesn't mean it's healthy.
Josiah Ross
the only bad thing inside e-liquid is nicotine, you can even buy it without that shit. whats the problem?
Leo Morris
Fucking autocorrect. Prophelene glycol is an artificial sweetner. Most vape juice is that and high fructose corn syrup and flavorings and nicotine
Colton Long
In the first line of the Constitution, it says "promote the general welfare". So to be clear, any libertarian argument against this is invalid.
But if you oppose regulations, because it helps people quit smoking, then you have a reasonable position.
Noah Nelson
>not sucking dick to help you quit smoking You some kinda faggot, user?
Julian Perry
I'm an anal bottom not an oral bottom, cuck.
Tyler Howard
he already used the qualifier "depending on the situation" you stupid illiterate nigger
Sebastian Wright
We have retards who are inhaling it already, so the tests are already underway. After a few lawsuits, we'll know how harmful it is.
Jack Jackson
>We only ban toxic things that shitty rude people do
How classist, totalitarian and progressive of you.
You're scum.
Andrew Miller
Unless the situation includes someone with a gun saying "smoke this or I'll shoot you" there is no situation in which not smoking is not an option.
Brandon Richardson
>absolutely everyone is like me, end of story
Aaron Fisher
vape more japs
Cameron Torres
Sorry you got zero will power. You at least have enough will power to rationalize and turn a horrible habit into a physical dependency.
Jonathan Gutierrez
Why are you defending weak people without an ounce of willpower?
Charles Sanders
>vape chemical manufacturers admit the fluid can produce a byproduct which is known to be harmful to your health at temperatures above 900 degrees, yes
if you inhale vapor at that temperature, toxic chemicals are going to be the least of your worries because you just cooked your lungs
Jack Collins
Vaping isn't really "quitting smoking." It's like switching from crack to powder cocaine.
> First smokers, what next? You can only drive electric cars because fuel cars smell?
This already happened with catalytic converters, you mong. Public health concerns are things that can be addressed with laws. >hurr why can't I dump chemical waste on sidewalks? This is violating my rights!
Yes, heat up strange chemicals and inhale them, goy.
Since you wont read those links, here are the take-aways: E cigs are orders of magnitude less harmful than cigs, E cigs smoke is equal or less harmful than city air, E cigs are effective smoking cessation tools, studies that tote harmful effects have conflict of interest (i.e. funded by tobacco co.), Nicotine in free base form (such as vaping) is not addictive or significantly less addictive than chemicals found in cigarette smoke, Propelyne glycol is not harmful in aerosol form, harmful chemicals are produced during vaping at temperature MUCH MUCH higher than normal temperatures or when the heating element is burned very hot without the juice (dry puff where the wick is burned).
The list of non-issues goes on and on. Its like you are trying to be illiterate fucks
Charles Wright
why so asshurt about vaping ? less toxins etc , if anythign you from all the boards just support vaping.
vaping did nothing wrong , instead of cigawett butts youve electronic burning devices inflaming tobacco liquid without all the sideffects for passive smoking.
so if you hate vaping , you hate jesus , you hate progress , you hate hitler.
fuck you if you hate vaping - its a great new addition to us smokers.
if anything if you are against vaping , 100% sure you are a jewish tobbaco imbecile supporter.
Adam Jackson
Holy fuck you have oppressive laws
Christian Phillips
>Nicotine in free base form (such as vaping) is not addictive or significantly less addictive than chemicals found in cigarette smoke >Nicotine >not addictive
Nicholas Rodriguez
How about not inhaling any smoke or vapor at all and not spend money on useless shit?
Thomas Moore
and this is where i become pretty sure you never actually smoked. it's not a horrible habit, it's a great one.. everything good or bad is made better by a good smoke afterword. Sex, traffic, food, waking up on little rest, going to work on a crappy day, coming home from work on a good day.
it enhances everything.
Ryder Rogers
Good goy, how much was deposited in your account from the lobbyist fund? Did RJ or Morris fund your act of altruism?
Aiden Ward
SO many vapefags in this thread lol.
Jesus christ.
Owen Hernandez
nicotine is pretty poisonous. toxicity causing death when ingested orally is around 50-60 mg/kg of body weight. lucky for you that bottle is listed at 6mg total and you could literally chug the entire thing and maybe get sick.
Glycerin and propylene glycol have been used in the food industry since forever and are relatively benign to human health when vaporised. Ever been to a rock concert or theater production with a smoke machine? That's the same propylene vapor produced from mouth fedoras. The glycerin is simply there to be a bonding substrate for the flavoring.
Is it as healthy as quitting cold turkey? No. Is it healthier than cigarettes? Yes.
Tax it, regulate it, move on.
Gabriel Butler
Bb Big Tobacco is literally funding most of the studies you claim arent biased
Tyler Hernandez
Those are all great personnel opinions and stories, but you still have yet to post any facts or sources, just blatant lies.
Parker Lee
Sure it feels great after a good meal but the wheezing and chest pain sure sucks. Cancer sure sucks. So does COPD. Not to mention the wonders of heart disease. I really couldn't wait for my life to go from feeling a buzz after a good meal to not being able to breathe. Sure enhances life.
You're just a cuck to nicotine. Just stop, it's that simple.
Jayden Russell
I don't really care if people vape , in my opinion it's waste of money. One of my buddies buys a new vape every week , and literally spends 70% of his paycheck on vape shit. You get a good nic buzz from it and that's about it , I don't see why people spend hundreds of dollars on this useless shit.
Logan Young
>>city votes to ban vaping from all public parks and walkways, within 20 feet of all city buildings, from all city transportion, to block vape shops from being within a mile of any school, and to work ahead of the FDA to ban all free samples
what city?
Charles Reed
On the subject of drugs, Sup Forums will suddenly go full liberal and say things like "IT'S MY BODY MY CHOICE". This is the only subject they'll do this on, as they have no problem with restricting rights of various other peoples and prohibiting various other things.
I'm not saying I have a problem with that. I'm not a lolbertarian. I just think the hypocrisy is funny.
Elijah Cooper
You have smoked less than 10 years. Its obvious.
Benjamin Martin
We should ban air since O2 oxygen becomes harmful when electro-stimulated into O3 ozone. What if people pass electric current through their air?
Ban air.
Nathaniel Phillips
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Jacob Phillips
Lol, good work OP
Michael Carter
Poisons loke Vegetable glycerin (stuff that is in food you eat), propylene glycol (anti-microbial used in toothpaste and as aerosols in hospitals the world over), artificial and natural flavorings (again, food), and optional nicotine (the only good chemical in cigs, also naturally found in many other plants including,but not limited to: eggplants, potatoes, tomatoes).
You are a certified retard.
Nathan Rogers
Every day I work my ass off to undo the work of whiny little faggots like you.
Because of people like you, I have to sit through fucking city council meetings. Do you think I like doing that? Do you think I like listening to a gaggle of pompous asses drone on for hours about land easements and restructuring zoning ordinances and green space revitalization?
I don't. I like to sit in my front yard high as dicks all day. Eat shit.
Michael Morris
>Today I got to watch government overreach against a group that I myself am not apart of, and I love standing by while big government slips down and forces their face right up against its asshole for the daily tonguing.
Carter Murphy
>or significantly less addictive
There is a shit-ton less nicotine in a puff of e-cigarette vapour than in a puff of cigarette smoke
not to mention the thousands of other physically addictive chemicals in cigarette smoke
Cooper Richardson
It's one thing to eat something and another to vaporize it into your lungs.
