Why do republicans hate Obamacare so much that they'll put in something worse?

Why do republicans hate Obamacare so much that they'll put in something worse?

It's not that they hate Obamacare per se, they just hate poor people more

Because it wasn't their idea.

Don't force me to buy crap. Also don't make the shit I want to buy more expensive.

Congressman Adam Schiff has the goods on Trump. He has solid proof of collusion from an informant who he has just scheduled to meet with the special prosecutor. The source has solid evidence showing that Trump colluded with the Russians in rigging the 2016 election in his favor.

It was their idea, dumbfuck.

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This. The only reason they don't like it is because obama proposed it. If a republican president proposed the exact same bill with a different name, it would get support from republicans and republican voters.

Fact: The only reason why some Americans hate healthcare is the fact it is associated with 'communism' which is a very anti-American thing.
>look back during the cold war era
We need to change the mind set of the people because healthcare and education is the most important part of a strong and healthy society. It has nothing to do with 'communism' when you're country has a good social system but rather look at it as a nationalist view.

You wish.

The republicans have hacked the budget to the ACA causing it to fail, and causing rates to go up.

They are doing this for political purposes to try to turn more people against it.

It was doing just fine until they fucked with it.

They'll put in something still bad, but not worse. Hopefully it's just phase 1 of a few to make thing actually good.
I'll agree though that given all the time they've had since Obamacare passed, they should have more far more prepared.

How much of my paycheck are you entitled to when you get sick or want to go to school?

everybody hates obamacare kod

sure kid

Healthcare has nothing to do with communism/socialism itself. Nationalized or "single payer" healthcare specifically does.

right.

>The republicans have hacked

Hmm, I thought that was the Russians that did the hacking.

Republicans love corporations, just think how much money insurance companies are losing actually helping and insuring sick people.

I should have used "Slashed the budget", my bad.

kek. who sucked their dick and made insurance mandatory????

How much of mine pays for ships, tanks, and planes that I don't want?

Taxes are the price you pay for living in a functional society.

Don't like it? No taxes in Somalia.

The government does not care if you have healthcare. Obamacare has one purpose: to funnel more money into health insurance companies. Left/right politics is for chumps. Follow the money.

Insurance companies fought every step of the way. They've spent billions on shooting down the ACA.

Wow i hope you're kidding. Maybe they don't like it because premiums rose 300 percent?

premiums only rose after the GOP fucked with it.

>Why do republicans hate Obamacare so much that they'll put in something worse?
Because you touch yourself at night.

We all have a vested interest in national security and defense. But no one should have to pay for insulin or dialysis for fat fucks who make poor choices or college for little white guilt-driven white girls with cornrows who want to study pangender economic theory.

Premiums skyrocketing are the result of insurance companies being forced to pay out to cancer patients etc. Before they could just turn you down or let you go.

sure kid.
blame republicans, it never gets old.

Cost 1.34 trillion
Insured 20 million
$67,000 per insured.
$4,060 per american

>why don't we like it.

>who make poor choices
You just described over two-thirds of the military and yet we are forced to subsidize their existence all the same.

then there's this asshole.

Why does neither party address the actual fucking problem which is big pharma and health insurance costs? If big pharma and health insurance wasn't so ridiculously overpriced in our current capitalist system, affordable healthcare would be EXTREMELY easy. Instead big pharma has to make billions on cancer treatments so even if there was a cure, it's not worth releasing compared to the treatment.

do you even understand who holds the budget? the house of representatives does, which is and has been a republican majority since 2010.

they dont believe climate change is real, they blocked any chance at a public option health care system and Obamacare is what they compromised with

But lets put more money into military spending, build a useless wall that would at best stop 20% of illegal traffic, and put tariffs on imported goods that do nothing besides screw over the middle class and poor.

>college for little white guilt-driven white girls with cornrows who want to study pangender economic theory.
How would you know what goes on at college if you never attended one?

And yet there were still assistance programs for those patients, so why further burden the health care system by forcing insurance to pay out?

and this asshole.

> 8 years.

ACA has not been in effect for that long. OP can't into basic math.

Military members are absolute trash who only ended up in what is essentially Republican Welfare because they are not cut out for civilian life. Why do you think so many of them blow what little brains they have out when they're discharged? They're the dregs of society that we clean up long enough for them to shoot at brown people.

How much of your paycheck is made off other peoples' paychecks?

For example, if you work for a company, and that company ships good by truck, and uses the roads that are paid for by taxes, do YOU deserve to reap the benefits of those roads?

Silly people thinking they make money in a vacuum.

They don't hate obamacare, they only hate the idea of obamacare. The republicans did a great job at turning people against making healthcare available for the poor, simply by slapping a label with the name "obama" on it.

As a whole, yeah there are considerable numbers that might not believe in climate change, but a lot of us that vote republican are independent, do believe in climate change, but don't want 40 percent income tax when the cost of living is already astronomically high right now.

Also we do need border security. Probably not a wall. And a better solution to healthcare than universal.

a healthy and educated population leads to better national security, less crime, and a generally better life for everyone, but feel free to keep that crab pot argument going

>if we make bad decisions for long enough
>eventually, when people keep holding us accountable for them
>we can say it's a dated argument

Alright. Let's completely defund the military and see how you do in your gun-free liberal paradise.

I graduated a decade ago. At the time, various groups on campus often met officially and unofficially to engage in robust debate and discussion, and everyone was able to have a nice lunch or dinner together afterward and be civil. Is that still true of college campuses today? Seems to me one snowflake gets their feelings hurt and riots break out.

My question still stands. How much of the money I work to earn are you entitled to in order to try to create the socialist utopia you just made up?

Because they invest in private insurance and stand to profit from it.

They don't hate poor people per se, they just see them as potential money they aren't making because of laziness, when the system is generally stacked against them, and unless they write an amazing novel or design some type of new business, they're destined for generations of poverty.

Even the schooling for the poor is geared towards labor/minimum wage work.

I went to careerlink to preserve my unemployment (when the cokeheads I worked for ran their old IT business into the ground and put the profits up their nose) and as a Network tech, my resume was so complete I was told to sit in the back and be quiet until the "seminar" was over because I was miles ahead of the basic assistance poor people get to get their shit together.

This country is all kinds of fucked up.

>implying that that company and all of their taxes, my wages, my gasoline taxes didn't help pay for them too.

Sorry but that argument is shit, since all tax payers and people who use gasoline pay for the roads (excluding toll roads).

Stupid fuck

>individual mandate was promoted by even Newt Gingrich
>mug fake news

Wow, a whopping four grand. What does crippling poverty feel like?

We should only allow pell grant for stem degrees and in demand jobs and we should continue to allow private assistance programs to support those that end up in need of financial assistance for meds and treatment. What was not working about that? Even canadians come here to get treatment for serious disease because we can still get them in and out fairly quick and maybe with a high bill, but they live to tell about it. Funny how high compensation for doctors and healthcare has led to an abundance of practitioners.

Good counter argument I learned so much.

well if that is what you represent, you only represent a portion of the right.

we still need a way for us to deal with our poor and homeless. technology is getting such that jobs will become harder and harder to find as population just continues to increase.

capitalism, as a system, couldnt continue when everything is automated and so few have incomes. that is where we are heading. we have to make way for things like self driving cars, trucks which will kill all delivery jobs in the next 20 years.

If no one is driving by then, why would we need traffic police? What happens to insurance premiums when no one gets into accidents?

the right isnt preparing for this at all

Of course it's still true of college campuses, you fucking menace.
You're never going to hear a goddamn news report about how everyone sat down and discussed shit peacefully, even though it happens all of the time.
>Seems to me one snowflake.. riots, et cetera
Could that be because you're no longer exposed to these environments in person?
If you only hear the negatives about a situation, of course it's going to seem like it's purely negative.

You typed "snowflake." This instantly exposes you as a fucking moron. No matter what you say beyond that, you lack creativity and a fucking education. Enjoy your kinesiology degree, imbecile.

Take it to Sup Forums nigger

we just dont need to police the world. slowly lower the amount of people employed, defund certain military programs and begin looking into, really looking into government waste and spending.

Why doesn't anyone who says this bitch about mandatory car insurance?

If they lived in the times that car insurance became mandatory they would have. We've had it for so long that everybody accepts it.

Good point. There will be a point in time society will be too resistant to progression that capitalism will collapse in on itself. It goes back to utopianism or why can't we just all get the fuck along and work together to make life better for everyone? Capitalism is a divisive force, though functional, we won't last if it influences our thoughts and feelings toward one another.

and the poor would need to pay less for the service, the middle class more, the rich would be taxed heavily.

eisenhower used to have a 50% income tax on the wealthy. 50%!

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How does it feel being the only big country in the world without healthcare? The reason it costs you so much is that every time some brilliant dude starts building the foundation, you elect a shit-flinging retard to dismantle it. Making sure that the next smart guy will have to spend all those trillions all over again.

If you only learned that building a functional healthcare system from the ground up costs a lot, it will not be without growing pains, and there are lots of problems that has to be ironed out with time. But all that work will pay off later. Instead of dismantling all the good work that's already been done, you should focus on fixing the problems that occur along the way.

Nothing is perfect from the start. You have to work with it, and polish it until it becomes perfect.

Ameritards are the only mongoloids on the planet who think that they should tear down everything the previous president did instead of fixing it.

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I'm happppppyyyyy
My ex is American and has a uncurable disease that causes her to need surgery every 5-10 years or so. Without obamacare she will have no chance of paying bills and will most likely suffer. Even with full coverage (military family) she had to pay around 10k usd per surgery, and after her dad got an dishonarable discharge obamacare was the only way she could get afordable treatment. I hope she suffers allot that stupid cunt. Best part is that if she hadn't cheated on me I could have gotten her free healtcare in my country. Shes probably sorry now that stupid bitch.

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Funny, we were doing just fine in the pre-WWII days when all we had was an adequate Navy and a token infantry force.
>slowly lower the amount of people employed
Fuck that, give them the boot all at once and cut their benefits. They'll either make it in the civilian world or they'll commit suicide like so many others do. It doesn't matter either way.

Thought I'd offer a funny anecdote too about my careerlink trip.

Lady looks at my resume and says "oh you're in tech?" and says they have training courses available to further my career. I say "oh really like what?" she says "well we offer cisco training free of charge" and I almost shit myself because CCNA is expensive as fuck of a certification to get, she said they also offer Microsoft training.

At this point my dick is growing and I ask if she has anything on paper for me to take home and look over. she prints me out a few sheets and i put them in my binder and head home.

My stomach drops when I read the paperwork.

their "Microsoft training" is basic courses on using MS Word and Excel (I train people on how to use this shit), and their "Cisco" training.............was SYSCO food service. A.K.A. prepack warehouse slavery.

Reinforcing my point above.

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fuck me that site is amazing

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if you are still the same guy on the right, I don't understand what you see in that party. I really don't.

they are truly impeding the ability for humanity to grow into a Type 2 civilization.

There was just story today about majority killing heat waves being the norm in 2100. In 80 years, our planet will be nigh uninhabitable unless we fix it now

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>You typed "snowflake."
So did you. I just cut 'n' paste.

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Could it be because some of the most "prestigious" universities in the nation are the sites of violent protests against anyone who dares express an opinion that isn't in line with far left ideology?

You still haven't answered my question, by the way. How do you morally justify threatening me with jail time and possible harm if I don't hand over a significant amount of my income so that you can enjoy "free" healthcare and education?

In other words, you can't defend your leftists ideology, so you're going to zero in on one word and dismiss what I have to say. Typical leftist.

I agree with you. We need to significantly scale back the rampant spending and waste in the military, as well as in entitlement programs. We don't need to create more entitlement plans that help a few who genuinely need them, but are abused by those who won't work.

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>20%
Laughable without proper source.

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we also allow our politicians to have their reelection campaigns almost entirely funded by people who represent large businesses. they have evidence of congressmen actually taking proposed legislation, written by these businesses, with spots (INSERT NAME HERE) still left blank and turned in.

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you realize if you unemployed 10% of the population you will kill the economy right? it will cause mass panic.

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