Who is the Frank Zappa of today?

Who is the Frank Zappa of today?

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Grimes

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Fuck off

literally the worst choice

There isn't one. Zappa combined and balanced too many styles and had too many particular skills to be even remotely repeatable. Not to mention how prolific he was.

I'm thinking maybe Kevin Barnes' recent stuff but that's kind of a stretch

Ariel Pink

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Obviously not as prolific, but definitely worth listeinng to.

This is a very easy answer.

Wat is the best Zappa album and why is it One Size Fits All?

A prolific skilled guitarist determined to bring some humour into rock music as well as different genres together? Tough one. The guy from Primus comes to mind, but he plays the bass and his music isn't that groundbreaking or important. Buckethead took the prolific part too far. Welp. Zappa was indeed one of a kind.

This and Devin Townsend

Does it have to be a rock musician? Madlib is probably the closest in terms of ambition, scope, and the way he synthesizes so many techniques and styles into one aesthetic.

How?

No.

>so many techniques
>styles

Such as?

>Devin Townsend

lol try again

Pop musician with quirky sensibilities.

If you think either Ariel or Frank are anything more than this, don't.

>Welp. Zappa was indeed one of a kind.

This. It's cliche to say but I can hardly think of anyone else associated with the Rock/Pop music world that it applies to more. Who else released full albums of Doo Wop, Blues Rock, Classical compositions, Jazz Fusion and multiple albums that blend all of those styles, sometimes into single songs with both incredibly complex compositions as well as room for solos and improvisation, and also "comedy lyrics" and social commentary?

I think you mean Läther, but ok.

Maybe not so much techniques since he's mostly a sample-and-scratch-based producer with some occasional bars, but he has worked in several different genres. See: Rock Konduckta, Yesterday's New Quintet, and the entirety of the Medicine Show series.

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>A prolific skilled guitarist determined to bring some humour into rock music as well as different genres together?


sounds like his protege Mr. Vai

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Zappa's stuff is not pop.

Close. Too bad most of the material was already released on Studio Tan, Zappa in New York, Sleep Dirt aned Orchestral Favorites. The eventual release of Lather feels like a mess. Especially considering the edited versions of songs like The Ocean is the Ultimate Solution.

>thinking zappa was good because of his guitar playing

LOL

>Zappa's stuff is not pop.


ok fine fer sher fer sher...just dont eat the yellow snow.

I thought it was obvious.

You do know that the CD of Lather is almost identical (save a remaster and the addition of bonus tracks at the end) to the original 4xLP that Zappa originally intended, got test-pressed, put on FM radio in Europe, and got bootlegged back in the seventies, right? Those four albums you named are just him breaking up Lather into separate concepts because his label didn't want to let him fulfill his contract with a single album that probably wouldn't sell due to its likely high retail cost.

Not everyone likes generic "shredding" and boring runs of scales user. Zappa had a pretty unique style of guitar playing that never gets old and certainly not predictable

quit shilling that pretentious queef

that's from the 90's and 2000's

He's a good vocalist. That hardly puts him in Zappa's league. Mr. Bungle were fairly Zappa-esque but were lazy as fuck and short lived.

He's was much more popular in the 90s than he is now, but yeah
He's the closest we've got

Name another artist who better fits the bill.

this

Kendrick Lamar. He has great music, really toils to incorporate diverse influences, and has some mainstream appeal. Unfortunately, he also inserts himself into political discourses by having "nuanced and complicated opinions" that really boil down to seeing the evil and good in both sides. This comes off as trite to people seriously engaging with these issues and not living on dividends of an artistic career. Their music also is collectively somewhat sterile for being so honed to perfection and is less memorable than their contemporaries', even if it's technically better composed. Kendrick's Beefheart (in terms of era and sound, not friendship and collaboration) is Young Thug. I like Zappa and Kendrick a lot, but I love Beefheart and Thugger.

>Name another artist who better fits the bill.

Trey Spruance

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oh fuck no- that guy couldnt carry Zappas jock strap

I'll do it, damn it. Here's your first and hopefully a final (You).

It's obviously the original version of Uncle Meat guys

This is the most absurd suggestion yet.

Weird answers, but what about Jim O'Rourke or Travis Miller?

>listening to anything but Civilazation Phaze III

Fucking plebs

I'm not trying to troll. I think that the urge to name a rock artist is misguided nostalgia. Kendrick isn't a perfect 1:1 comparison cause he doesn't really engage with classical music or have the range of Zappa, but you have to find someone in the dominant genre to parallel Zappa's role once upon a time. No rock artist is towing the line of diverse influences and mainstream genre conventions because we've had 60 years of rock expanding and shattering its boundaries and being institutionalized slowly as the next jazz. Hip hop is still in the "postmodernists like us but serious academic musicians don't" phase. Meanwhile, rock music has been given over to nerdy college professors and dads talking about how great U2 is since they're too dumb to appreciate Bruckner.

In terms of output? Drake

Most definitely Ariel Pink.

Both are insufferable smartasses, but quietly very good composers.

>Both are insufferable smartasses
What are you even on about? Have you watched a single interview with Zappa? If you did, you'd know that's the exact opposite of how he felt and behaved.

Zappa was just confident in his opinions and got asked a lot of stupid and repetitive questions by the press so he came off as cocky. He also hated interviews so he probably put on a front during most interviews.

Also, the guy was pretty intelligent and had accomplished so much artistically that he earned somewhat of a right to be cocky anyway.

Thundercat

Don't know all that much about Zappa first-hand myself, but if what you say is true, then the answer is most likely People tend to mistake confidence for pretentiousness quite often desu.

And your answer after all being said is Grimes. Just stop.

So you think Grimes would be the "Frank Zappa of today" because she has similar personality traits and acts cocky in interviews? I'm pretty sure the question was more about music.

Devin Townsend

But Zappa was talented

Honestly? Danny Elfman. The only difference is that Danny embraced the commercialism whereas Zappa openly mocked it

Grimes is talented, but Zappa was making electronic jazz albums, classical compositions, and two-hour long rock concept albums. The two aren't comparable.

Toby Driver

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>So you think Grimes would be the "Frank Zappa of today" because she has similar personality traits and acts cocky in interviews?
Yes.

> I'm pretty sure the question was more about music.
There IS NO Frank Zappa of today, musically speaking, because no one sounds anything remotely like him (including Grimes.)

see

Ween, if they did anything in the last decade

nice job trying to save save face. but you answered "grimes" so you're still a moron

It's not about sounding like him though. It's more a question of if any artist is as diverse, prolific and talented as he was. I can't think of any musicians who can compose and also combine popular music with jazz, classical and meld other different genres of popular music together like Zappa did. Nothing even remotely similar.

I'm sure one could look for and find some copy cat artists but that doesn't really fit the criteria. Either does Grimes btw.

>Nothing even remotely similar.
Why are you repeating back to me almost exactly the same thing I just said?

>nice job trying to save
user, I don't care what you think of me because that has nothing to do with this thread's topic.

>has nothing to do with this thread's topic

Kinda like your thing about Grimes being the Frank Zappa of interviews.

>Why are you repeating back to me almost exactly the same thing I just said?

I'm not, although you are correct that there is nobody out there comparable to Frank Zappa it is not because nobody SOUNDS like him. Which was the reason you stated in case you forgot.

Trey Spruance is an outstanding amazing composer but a horrid guitar player, even Bungle fans have to admit it.

It's not about sounding like Frank Zappa, it's about being innovative and elevating a popular genre to the standards of art music.

I think Busdriver would be a pretty good example of someone comparable to Zappa for hip-hop.

I fucking hate you

>It's not about sounding like Frank Zappa, it's about being innovative and elevating a popular genre to the standards of art music.

Actually. It's more a question of if any artist is as diverse, prolific and talented as he was. I can't think of any musicians who can compose and also combine popular music with jazz, classical and meld other different genres of popular music together like Zappa did. Nothing even remotely similar.

John Zorn perhaps?

Has done everything from exotica, avant-garde and free jazz to modern classical music.

As far as guitar players are concerned, it would definitely have to be Fred Frith. The amount of albums he's played on and musicians he's collaborated with is almost unparalleled. Also a frequent collaborator of John Zorn's.
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okay

Devin Townsend

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This is ridiculous. Very well known albums he's played on:
>Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
>Brian Eno - Before and after Science
>Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning
>The Residents - Commercial album
>The Residents - Eskimo
>John Zorn - Naked City

because of sofa

James Ferraro

Obviously Thugger

how so?

This is an insult

What the fuck

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Ariel Pink sounds nothing like Zappa to me

AP > FZ

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kys

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What prompted that?

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>you"re
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Yes I'm sure all the Taylor Swift and Kendrick Lamar fans also love Mr. Bungle and Devin Townsend.

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come the fuck on guys

music is too diverse nowadays to have someone like Zappa "change thangs up" to something we haven't heard before

there will never be another Zappa. Just Zappa inspired Zappas