Why can't atheists define atheism?

Why can't atheists define atheism?

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Because it is an abstract type of feeling rather than something that can clearly be defined. Like you just feel that there can be no god.

@736724988
Aren't you people all about """logic?"""

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it can be, it's the absence of faith in god or a higher power, now fuck off with your shitty bait

Because axioms are base philosophical assumptions 1=1 0=0

@736725815
Define "god" then. You still haven't defined atheism.

its been months already. why are you resurrecting this pathetic thread?

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fuck off back to twitter

A-theism.

Without theism.

(Any)one who is not a theist.

Define semantics

@736726083
Define theism. You have to do that if you're going to define atheism.

How long is this shit posting going to last? How many years has threads like these been around? I've lost count. All the days and months blend together in a blur.

God is apparently not fulfilling enough for this lunatic.

Are you a theist?

You define theism.


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I'd define it as:
(Any)one who believes in at least one god.

Aaaaand because I've not heard any good definition for a god, that makes sense from any knowledge we currently have, I am not a theist.

It's lacking a belief in god(s). That's it.

theism

belief in a god or gods

from the greek "theos" which means god and the suffix -ism which denoting a system, principle, or ideological movement.

the prefix a- means without so atheism literally means without a belief in a god or gods

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how can i bump this thread if my eyes arent even real?

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities

Easy:

Deism — Belief that God exists.

Theism — Belief that we know what it thinks.

Adeism — Certain knowledge that God doesn't exist.

Atheism — Certain knowledge that people don't know what God thinks.

Was this thread supposed to go somewhere..?

Replace "certain knowledge" with "lack of belief"

>absence

I don't know what's more retarded.
This shitty old stale bait, or the fact people still fucking reply to the shitty old stale bait.

How about the fact that over half the fucking world is religious?

Q: Waht do you call a person who plays golf?
A: A golfer

but what do you call a person who doesn't play golf??

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If you're going to state things that are even more retarded than the two options I presented, we'll be here all day.

Atheism is a label used by religious folk to define those who do not share their beliefs. An athiest calling themselves an athiest generally is a angsty troll. A true non believer does not need or use this label

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@736726329
Can you define "god?"

How can you claim to be an atheist if you can't identify theists?

Since you're putting the burden on me:

A theist is someone who wouldn't bang chick in pic related.

An atheist would bang chick in pic related.

>DEFINED.

@736726725
What is it exactly that you don't believe in? Define "god."

atheism is a religion which requires resounding faith in oneself. While they use the argument of "It's unlikely" to say god is 100% definitely not real, the exact same thing could be said about god NOT being real. You can't be sure about either, but atheists are so full of themselves that they say they they are absolutely and resoundingly correct in their assumptions about the nature of the universe, despite their arguments being just as disprovable as those for religion. It seems that most atheists are still stuck in their teenage rebellious phase, and the entire belief system is mostly based on built up hatred for Christians cause they don't like gay marriage and fucking everything that moves without consequence. Grow up dickheads.

Atheism = autism

Fuck you that's why

a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity. Or a supernatural being with great or all encompassing power.
Either of those. I'm sure there are other definitions, but those would be closest to what I do not believe in as an atheist.

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You don't understand. You still haven't defined atheism, because your definition of theism is based on the concept of a god.

So tell me, what makes a god? What is this category of things that you don't believe in?

Define "define".

That is not how this works.

Atheism is a non-position of theism -- for the most used definitions of theism.

I've yet to hear a convincing definition of theism -- which is WHY I'm not a theist.

For all purposes, the definition of theism would be:

The belief that there exists at least one god.

Where god is magical or metaphysical sky fairy.

The lack of a convincing definition of a god, that seems plausible with our current knowledge about the universe, is the reason I'm not a theist:

No definition of theism that I've heard manages to construct any definition of a god that seems to be a more true answer to "How did this universe come to be?" than "We do not know yet."

Not all gods are claimed to be the creators of the universe, by their believers, but in the modern world -- creating the universe, from nothing, having not been created themselves, seems to be a common definition of a god.

The whole idea of atheism and what is criticises religion for is extremely ironic when you consider atheism is also a belief.

Atheism is a lack of belief in God or Religion. It stems from the Greek "a-" implying a lack of and "theos" meaning "god." Personally, I'm totally okay with an oblivion of nothing after I die. It makes life that much sweeter, knowing that it is all that I have.

>why cant atheists define atheism
>defines atheism
>but you cant define it
>defines atheism again
>but you have to define all these other words
>all other words systematically define
>but you still havent defined atheism

please at least get creative no one likes a broken record

Then who are you talking to when you say "God Damnit"

Burn your straw-man and gtfo

I'm not absolute about God not being real. I personally don't see the evidence for her. Many others do not either. Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Matt Dilahunty, Aron Ra, and others do not say they are 100% sure. They just don't see enough evidence for god and see plenty against her.
If anyone atheist or theist says they are 100% sure that god is not real or real than I wouldn't agree and prob call them fags.

@736727567
What is a deity?

when people say "god dammit" they arent referring to any actual god, just like when they say "holy shit" they arent referring to any actual shit

>Adeism — lack of belief that God doesn't exist.
>Atheism — lack of belief that people don't know what God thinks.

You are literally retarded

@736730126
You categorically deny the existence of a "god," but don't say what "god" means. That's pretty dishonest.

In 10th grade, I learned that I was an atheist.

NOT believing in something requires zero effort.

I didn't know what atheism was:
I just lumped the story about Christ and his father, the angry sky fairy, and the holy poltergeist, up in the sky, somewhere, alongside the stories about Santa Claus on the North Pole and the Easter Bunny.

Lack of belief is passive, and the only time you ever HAVE to think about it, is when someone who believes brings it up -- or it's late at night, and you try to figure out why the easter bunny brings eggs.

@736729840
A tiger is superhuman. It can run faster than a human and it's stronger. It has power over your fortunes when it eats you, and some people worship them. So do you believe that tigers don't exist?

What a retard.

>lack of belief =/= belief
Are you an athlete because you don't play football?

It was clearly sarcasm lol

@736730381
Right, but what is a god and what is religion

God damnit is a command against the almighty.
Holy Shit is a proclamation that someone produced an incredible turd. Probably Andy Sixx.

Why do people still reply to these fucking threads? Stop posting.

I'm pretty sure OP is some kind of amnesiac retard. He actually doesn't remember making this thread every day for months on end.

I don't need to believe in tigers because I can see them in the zoo. Do you believe in tables?

Deity, or a god:

...a character, or many characters, from various sources of fiction and fan fiction, normally associated with magical powers, the ability to create life from unliving substances, sometimes immortal, sometimes timeless, sometimes metaphysical.

There are a wide variety of gods, but most theists only believe in one or a group of gods.
Atheists just go one god further than those that only believe in one of the gods.

this was the most pathetic attempt at a troll that I've seen in a long time. Congratulations for winning that award.

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When you see these pictures, please take a step back and look at how terrible the posts with them containing arguments are.

They have taken a class or maybe two on how to debate and do nothing but try to twist rhetoric.

Enjoy feeding the troll. Nobody cares if there is a God or not.

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i dont know ive heard this argument used pretty damn seriously before and people are really just that fucking stupid. Either it wasnt sarcasm or at the very least it wasnt *clearly* sarcasm

Get out of here newfag Noone loves you and they never should.

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we reply because we are bored as fuck and like arguing shit and its hard to keep up a good argument in a porn thread

It's like the Flat Earth or Climate Change hoax threads. People just can't help themselves

You BELIEVE there is no God. Atheism is a belief. It's not a fact. I'm not religious I just think atheism is stupid. What's after death is probably too complex for any of us to understand.

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@736731302
All I'm saying is by your definition of "god," tiger's shouldn't exist, so your version of atheism is idiotic.

I'll ask you again. What even is atheism?

I OBSERVE that their is no God. I OBSERVE tigers in the zoo. I OBSERVE the table in the room. I do not believe in any of it.

You have the mental acuity of a stunned rodent

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Fuck off back to twitter, dumb fuck.

no you're twisted the grammar it's not that we "believe there is no god" it's that we "don't believe that there is a god" and if you don't understand the difference you need to go back to school and learn english

@736731313
>from various sources of fiction and fan fiction
So you don't believe in fictional characters? Neither do I.

What if you don't know if something is fictional, like you don't know about every single religion out there? It seems to me that you could stand to refine your viewpoint a bit.

By superhuman I mean a man/woman with capabilities beyond not just the norm, but approaching godlike abilities. Supernatural abilities. Achilles would be a good example.

@736731791
Nice """""argument."""""

I rest my case, atheists can't define atheism. So let's get the point of the thread, why can't they?

Atheism is the little to no belief in a god or entity of certain "divinity"

Atheism is denying the existence of a god or supernatural being that created the universe and believes the universe was created through natural means

Atheism doesn't describe a belief but rather lack there of. I'm an atheist but don't believe in anything. String theory might be the best guess of how the universe started but it's a guess with not much in the line of physical evidence.

My view on a higher power is this personified version of god perpetuated in modern religion doesn't make sense. Maybe there's something maybe there's not but im sure sure it's not the biblical god or any other fairy tale.

Science is all about putting forth a hypothesis and then proposing an experiment to test that hypothesis. The results of those experiments are then used to format a theory. The better the evidence, the better the theory.

Science is wrong about many things and will continue to that as that is it's nature. It doesn't require you to believe anything and encourages you to question and try to dis prove

Do you know what people mean when they talk about the sense and the referent of a word?

We can define the sense for the word 'god' without assuming there is a referent.

To put it another way; if you ask an atheist to list the things they believe in, none of the referents that they list would match a theists sense for the word 'god'

Where's your god now OP?

Chill. Come to daddy.

@736732066
So it has to be a human? The Egyptian gods certainly weren't human, and yet I assume that as an atheist you don't believe in them.

If they're close enough to them there were also Egyptian gods who weren't even closely related.

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You trolls are such idiots. Why is this even a thing?

God is dead

@736732161
Define "god."

Oh look, it's this thread again. I once refused to believe anyone with an IQ at or above 100 could be baited this easily, but then they started to genuinely believe and integrate all of these retarded memes in place of rational thought. This is the Sup Forums experience, here to weed out the weak minds. You're all doomed.

You want a nice clean definition that everyone can easily understand? Ok here you go.

There is no god. It doesn't exist. There, that wasn't so hard now was it? You are welcome.

"we" lol.. Okay

Even with the simplest answer, OP is too brain dead to comprehend

Prove it. Autist

Is there any specific god you think of?
Define that God, and the reasons for why I should believe in it.

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I am an atheist BECAUSE I have yet to hear any definition of any god that is plausible to the point where it's worth believing it exists.

It's mostly fiction from medieval and even prehistoric times -- and we have little to no reason to believe otherwise.


I could've read 1 000 000 000 pages about gods -- or other works of fiction, without learning anything new about this world that these works of fiction explain, with verifiable explainations, that are unexplainable without religion:

My atheism is CAUSED by the lack of a good definition for a god, followed by the lack of evidence for gods:

There is no reason to believe, until there is verifiable evidence for gods.

No... I didn't say it had to be a human.

>You're

ok i will admit i cant speak for *all* atheists but most in general think this way

do you happen to be an atheist that firmly believes there is no god?

Hello new friend you have been baited