For the love of God, someone please tell me how to get out of the Friendzone?
>inb4 give up
Quitting doesn't result in her being in a relationship with me, so it isn't a valid option.
I want to escape the Friendzone and the only way to do that is to successfully get her to agree to love me like a boyfriend and not as a friend.
All suggestions that I quit trying will be interpreted by me as a troll.
I'm looking for real advice here.
Tell her the fucking truth and deal with the consequences. You can't control the outcome. Tell her, if shes not into you, man up and get someone else...
Look man, tell her how you feel, if that doesnt work there is nothing you can do. You can try a grand romantic gesture. But chances are you will just embarass yourself. Just because you want her doednt mean she will ever want you.
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Seriously dude.
Yup. You don't get to decide if you're her type or not, you feel? If she's doesn't see you as a romantic possibility, then that's that.
This is the only way. Seriously its not something you can force from where you're at. If you're straight up about the way you feel and she rejects tou, then the next best hope is to leave her behind, grow, (work out), and maybe something will be there in the future if you don't act like a desperate cuck
Stop being a fucking pussy and ask her out if she says no then cut off all contact and she'll either come crawling to you pussy first or you'll move on finally and find another girl.
Never ever admit it before you manage to kiss. Its suicide. Just tease, use sexual inuendo whenever possible and make jokes about being together untill it happens
kiss her you pussy. you got friendzoned because you dont initiate anything with your pussy ass.
inner game:
>youtube.com
outer game:
>youtube.com
Seduction techniques are are just tools in a tool box. Some people use a hammer to create, other people use a hammer to harm. The fact that some people use a hammer to harm doesn't make a hammer bad. The men who hate pick up artists are idiots who only focused on outer game, completely neglected inner game and gave up in frustration without putting in the time necessary to really know the techniques. They are like bad carpenters and bad carpenters always blame their tools.
The hardest thing that is going to be for you to accept is that your understanding of what triggers attraction to a man within a woman is wrong. As in, not correct. Mistaken. Misinformed. Female attraction literally has nothing to do with your physical appearance. If you insist on continuing to assert that your appearance is a factor, then keep on doing the exact same thing you've been doing over and over again, expecting a different result each time like an idiot. There is no helping you.
If you are ready to try different perspective on female attraction, consider this.
All women have 5 universal attraction triggers. In no particular order, they are:
1. He is the leader of men
2. He is a successful risk taker
3. He has a willingness to emote (laughs, doesn't speak in a monotone voice)
4. He is a protector of loved ones
5. He is preselected by other women.
You could look like Brad Pitt from the movie fight club, but if you aren't demonstrating to women that you have at least one of the above five traits, you aren't getting laid. Sexual arousal in women stems from jealousy. Women become horny at the thought of a rival woman attempting to steal access to the life their man has built for himself; a life she buys access to by trading pussy to be part of it.
Basically, girls are prostitutes. They sell their pussy to gain access to a masculine social group.
Spoken like a true fucking virgin
>bad carpenter detected
actually...everyone saying "you can't force love" is scientifically proven wrong.
check this out, OP.
www.nytimes com/2015/01/11/fashion/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html
make it a game. she will fall for you even if she knows what this is supposed to do.
and start touching her. don't be afraid of her. touch her. really. it goes a long way.
>All suggestions that I quit trying will be interpreted by me as a troll.
So then you are the desperate creepy dude that wont take no for an answer.
Theres nothing we can do for you here if thats the case.
Because you wont take no for an answer thing between you and her will end badly.
The reason you are friendzones is because your feelings and willingness to share is seen as feminine and needy.
Girls want to get lost in your masculinity, they have enough neurotic shit in their brains without having to tend to you crap too.
And its because you appear feminine and needy she will never see you as someone that will make her pussy wet, she doesn't see you as a possible mate for the future to bear offspring with.
And to be honest shes not really your friend, I had this shit happen to me when I was a teenager, I used to hang around my friend and her and listen to them fuck while i cried outside their door wondering why she didnt want to fuck me tooooooo boo hoooooo.
Nut up, speak less, be more mysterious and find a new chick.
loser derected
kill your self OP and find another girl, dont be macho asshole
another faggot appear
Fuck her friend or cut ties with her and fuck her friend point is fuck her mom
Being Harry Potter came out twenty years ago today I'll reference that. Be like Ginny Weasley. She never gave up on Harry, not really. She did, however, not let her intense desire to be with him rule her; she dated other boys, became accomplished in aggressive hexes, earned her way onto the sports team, and she quit acting the fool around Harry. Then he wanted her, but even if he didn't she was better off in pretty much every sense then where she was when she was pathetically pinning over him.
You said quitting doesn't result in her being with you. Don't be so sure. You seem intensely adamant about this lady and what you're doing now isn't working.
So fucking chill out and get good because she has basically decided that, while you're nice enough to hang out with, your genetic code isn't worthy of being passed down.
Would be good to rename this to the "I tolerate you being around sometimes" zone.
Break off contact. Take a few years to completely improve yourself.
I left for the Marines, came back and ran into my high school sweetheart at walmart. She gained like 30 lbs. I spent that time improving myself, she spent that time improving her body weight.
I fucked her and she wanted to go steady after that. I never messaged her back.
user, life is long. Focus on improving yourself. Become a wellspring of status and power so people will beg to drink from you.
Marine Corps best branch
this faggot is autistic. that sounds so fucking fake
Oki was a fucking blast. Lejeune is a shit hole.
I will tell you how you can get your dick wet however it's going to end with her hating you. Ive done three time so far so I know it works
1 and most important you cant be a poor fag
2 Wait for an opportune time best is when she really needs cash, I mean, desperately needs it.
(for me it was a blown engine in her car and another one had fines that couldnt be ignored any longer)
When they whine to you about their problems mention that you are not a poor fag.
When they come to you for a loan refuse but make sure they understand that they can get the cash with their ass.
Film them stating that they are whoring for dollars and give full consent to the acts (very important in case they decide it wasnt consensual once they get paid)
Do shit so vile to them it will put them in therapy for years
watch the videos when you get bored.
i keked my ass off
...
either tell her how you feel or stop being friends with her until she reconsiders and wants to be in a relationship with you
These anons know what's up.
what worked for me was cutting ties with her for about a year and improving myself physically and mentally. i randomly met up with her after some time had passed and everything fell into place. we are on year 5 now
although i think she was attracted to me emotionally but not physically i was chubby and short and i had grown taller and been working out so that probably had
most to do with it
Rape is the only way. The funny thing is; over half the times a dude rapes his female bestfriend it end up in a nice relationship. Like it is an eye-opener to girls. They simply can't imagine being with their male friend first but after having sex they can.
Just show her dubs bro
OP
Look man, you don't get out of the friendzone. You will forever be ingrained in her head as her "friend". She will never love you the way you want her to. You do not turn her on, you are not seen as sexual to her in her eyes hence why you are in the friend zone. Her sexual best is not reserved for you but for guys who give her the tingles and illicit a strong animalistic desire to want their cocks.
OP seriously man just forget it. It's seriously a big waste of time. Just get over her and understand that there is no way out of the friend zone. the knew who do "make it out" of the friend zone are completely delusional and usually end up getting dumped or cheated on anyways. Move on op there are better options out there.
Walk away you fuckin idiot, hold yourself to a higher standard even if nobody else does.
If the bitch don't want you initially, then she aint worth the chase.
>Learn to want more for yourself because nobody else will want more FOR you.
you never can you idiot. grow up and find new pussy.
Think of someone you don't like, or hell even a gay dude.
What would it take for you to like them? You Never will. Same with you.
Move on you tard
>successfully get her to agree to love me
LOLOLOLOL
Don't listen to the anons here. There is a way to get out of the friendzone but its nearly unseen. Plastic surgery is your best bet. Fix your flaws. Is your hairline a little uneven or to high? fix that. Is your nose too big? Fix that. Is your jawline weak and unnoticeable. Fix that. This is the best bet at making a woman attracted to you. Boosting your looks boosts all women's attraction to you as that is the basis of attraction.
serious advice
i did it, once you've been through that it's not that hard
tell her, face the fact that she'll say no. then start a period (like a month) when you're jokingly flirting with her, just let her smile even if she'll always say no.
then start arguing and be a dick with her, you need a reason but basically you're just treating her like shit cause she hasn't been nice to you.
then start another period when you're just living your life, don't forget to post on facebook how good your life is and from time to time search indirect contact with her, like talk with a friend of her, give her a like on facebook and then remove it, write if you need something but then don't reply, stuff like that. basically you've to remind her that you exist and you're doing great and you're great but without giving her the idea that you're thinking about her.
then arrange to meet her again more often like mutual friends parties ecc, and be nice to her again. she'll basically beg to fuck you and have a relationship with you
i think total time if everything's done correct will be around 4 months, i did it in 6 or 7 with trial and error
don't forget, never give up, especially if you're a virgin, you've nothing to lose
Yeah the only way is to take a leap of faith and straight up tell her. However know that whatever the outcome your friendship will be done with. I did it. Toll her my feelings and she in turn broke up with her bf at the time. We where together for 3 years. Now i haven't seen in 5. I lost my best friend. And thats what fucking bugs me till this day
I diamond
rape.
why is her butthole dripping
>Friendzone is where you want to be, she'll never expect a friend of rape when you get her drunk/passed out at a party
...
I have like 3 years of experience with this and once you are friends and more than like 6-8 months pass without anything happening just let it go. Confess to her first beacuse it doesnt matter if she doesnt want to talk to you again, beacuse the constant pain that follows of just being friends and hoping for something that isnt gonna happend is really really not worth it. Maybe you are thinking "oh wee maybe this is special like a fucking disney story" you are absolutely wrong. Let it go dude, sorry to tell you.
i don't get this sorry
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Rule 1:
Never tell a girl you like her
Rule 2:
women like rape
Rule 3:
Rape her
Rule 4:
women need to be beaten
Rule 5:
beat a woman if she does anything you dislike
Rule 6:
never marry a woman
Rule 7:
cum inside every time
wow you chat utter shit
The only way is to get rich. I mean real filthy rich. She still won't love you, but she'll pretend as long as you spend money on her. Basically a full-time escort/hooker, but with a little imagination you might convince yourself that it's love.
Kek
the redpill is literally the most pathetic thing i've ever seen. It's a three-way contest between you, incels, and MGTOWs to be the most genetically useless fucks on the planet.
this
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Seriously. Only option right here
Survivor calling here...
yes its true and its possible. You can escape the friend zone. Let me tell my story in a nutshell and give you the advice of my lifetime (im oldfaq, but cant triforce and maybe i never learn it).
So.. what am i: kinda beta guy... a few friends but good ones.. into science.. a little into drugs. Horny as hell... fapping up to seven times a day.
Groing up... so shy, nearly unable to hook up girls. Then start meeting a girl often because we are into the same stuff.. music, alcohol, doing drugs and talk a lot about society (best talks ever) and anything else. We became close and kissless friends. Always desired her. I was so fuckin deep in the friendzone... at some time it dont matters that i cant fuck her. She was truely more worthfully to me as a deep friend then a relationship. So i stopped desired here, get a "real" girlfriend, fucked a lot of hookers, become a swinger. Talked about it to here. Like: Hey check this out, you dont regret! It was like opening the box of pandora: She starts swinging too and became a fucking maneating bitch... I just say "golden shower partys" and way more extreme. Would could i say now? Shes still my soulmate, we are still not a couple and she fulfilled every deepest sexual fantasy to me which even comed to my mind.
Now, its perfect. It takes several decades, but its better then a relationship. Believe me. If she is your best friend in life, she dont let you suffer or she isnt your friend. Then she is just a selfish asshole.
you preempted any real advice
enjoy your misery
>All suggestions that I quit trying will be interpreted by me as a troll.
I'm looking for real advice here.
Real advice: If you're not willing to quit this chick, you are LITERALLY not man enough to mate.
Nut up, have some fucking self-esteem.
amazingly the first comment is the truth. You got yourself into the friendzone by treating her as a friend and not as someone you want a relationship. You need to change that. Man the fuck up.
Okay, you need to man up and take advice you dont like. If you are going to sit here and have people give you advice and make exceptions like "no im better than that, I can make it" you need to grow a pair.
Dont waste time on people who dont want you. Lifes too short for that. Cut the shit. She could like you one day. Dont wait for it, ask her out and if she says no stop being a fucking retard and go find someone else. Lingering and "hoping" is a beta activity. Going and doing is alpha. Do shit. Be the active protagonist of your story not the passive protagonist. Grow a pair. Find a cute girl. Ask this one out. Find another girl.
>Just stop being a beta pussy
This is the only answer. You will feel better about it whether she says yes or no. Anything less direct is in service of your fear of rejection, which is what this is really about.
Signed, an user who chose to tell her the truth.
I propose to you an alternate question:
For the love of God, someone please tell me how to breathe while 300 feet underwater?
>inb4 give up
Quitting doesn't result in me having oxygen in my lungs, so it isn't a valid option.
I want to breath oxygen and the only way to do that is to successfully get the ocean to offer me breathable air while 300 feet submerged.
All suggestions that I quit trying will be interpreted by me as a troll.
I'm looking for real advice here.
>>>> In other words
This is the only way.
You go up to her and say, "Hey, I've been thinking a lot about us - I have feelings for you in a romantic way, are you interested at all?"
Tiny, small chance she'll say "yes." Bigger chance she'll say "no omg we're such good friends i don't wanna ruin blah blah etc".
When she says this, say "Well, I'm sorry to hear that. My feelings have grown and I don't see you as a friend anymore, I wish you the best, good luck."
And then stop talking to her. Seriously. This is gonna be the hard part.
Honestly? Depending on the girl, after a couple months of absence she might actually consider you as a romantic thing. Not having you in her life might make her consider what she's missing and see you in a different way. She also might not - attraction is attraction and she might just not be into you. But if you want any chance, even the slightest to get out, this is how.
who is this?
kek
Truth
Always Sunny in Philadelphia
If you have a big dick find a way to get it in front of her eyes asap. If not you tell her the truth and just let the pieces fall as they may.
The only route clear of the friend zone is the enemy zone.
There's no such thing as friendzone, faggot. either she likes you or she doesn't. if she doesn't, move the fuck on and forget about her.
or become a creepy stalker and risk jailtime.
You're just not fit to pass your genes on
While this sounds like trolling, it actually works
High school girls are hormone-addled and curious as fuck about the dick. Usually they'll turn to friends they can trust for questions and lessons on things in hopes of improving their relationships. Had a girl who came to me asking tons of questions about dicks since she planned on going down on her boyfriend. I asked if it was alright if I gave her visual examples. She reluctantly agreed so long as I kept my distance. I pulled my pants down and pointed out the sensitive areas, showed her how the skin moved, explained she could do pretty much anything to the shaft but to not go near the balls until she was a lot more comfortable and could be super gentle,...
Three years later we were married. She couldn't get my dick out of her head and ended up cheating on her boyfriend several times, then moved in with me in college.
yeah, that's shit advice probably coming from some asshole who's been humiliated in a custody battle and wants others to be in the same situation.
sorry op its just not happening if she isnt into you.
They should make this into a hallmark made for tv movie.
Id watch it
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Disregard all advice. There is no way out of the Friendzone. I REPEAT, THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF THE FRIENDZONE.
If you're in there it's already too late. The Friendzone is just girls' way of taking advantage of a relationship without actually committing to a relationship. She doesn't desire you. She isn't attracted by you. She never will.
You'll understand when you turn 20 or so.
This is actually false. There is a friendzone. It's when a woman repeatedly pretends that there's a chance of a relationship and strings you along because she's insecure and needs to feel like she has a backup man at the ready.
Of course men do this, too. They're called cheaters, pimps, players, jerks, assholes, whatever. Women just aren't called out on it when they do it.
Meet the new queen of Sup Forums
>Feminist makes documentary about the Men's Rights Movement
>Gets Red Pilled while making it
>Feminists try to censor her documentary globally
>She now no longer considers herself a feminist.
Man, I was so in agreement until the "And then stop talking to her."
STUPID
She's a girl. She has friends who are girls. Perhaps more friends who are girls than you do. Why would you stop talking to her?
Yes, definitely move on. Definitely get yourself someone else as a girlfriend. But the first step to getting a girlfriend is to actually know some girls.
Instead of not talking to her, keep her as a friend. Show her you still value her for more than her pussy. Then she won't kill your chances with the girls she's GCing with all day.
Otherwise, all you're doing is perpetuating the "girlfriend zone". That's the female equivalent of the "friend zone". You know how you were just bitching that she sees you as only a friend. Well girls bitch that guys see them as only girlfriend material - in other words a pussy and nothing else. Maybe true, but you shouldn't show that side if you want to have a chance with the other girls she's friends with.
But you stop talking to her you lose your chances with any of her friends and you also lose the easiest opportunity to make her jealous. Like all those anons - I totally agree that the easiest way to get a woman to want you is to have some other woman who she considers a competitor want you too.
*of course, if all her friends are landwhales, just ignore this and stop talking to her like user said.
It's easy OP, get another female friend that's just as good as her. Soon as she realizes she's no longer #1 in your book then sheep wanna fuck. Butches get help us man, use the freindzone to your advantage. And so what if you don't bang her? It's not the end of the world, STOP being so disgusting and needy.
She was never a real feminist. A real feminist wouldn't be so gullible as to fall prey to the propaganda of the men's rights movement.
Who financed that film btw?
I totally butchered that paragraph. Fucking autocorrect
>no true Scotsman
This is the most cuck move you can do. It's a recipy for 100% dissapointment.
Be direct. Just say "hey I want to go on a date with you". Be cool about it. Be cool if she says no.
Oh and act like a fucking grown up don't be one of those red pill pussies who's so scarred of rejection they push everyone away.
The Friendzone is the intentional exploitation of unrequited love. She knows damned well that he's in love with her and she's using his love to gas his ego. I'd be willing to bet money that she does just enough to lead him to believe that he has a small chance of ending up with her if things don't work out with her current boyfriend. She keeps him on the hook because she likes the attention.
Come to terms with it, maybe somewhere down the line something happens, give up stop showing interest, just give up. Women aren't obliged to want to if you want them, give up.
Femanon here.
I just tricked this pathetic pussy into the friendzone.
I'm a little disappointed at how easy it was. I like a challenge and this one was like putty in my hands. He tried to do the nice guy routine, pretending he didn't want to have sex with me, which really turned me off. It's disingenuous, dishonest and obvious. So I flipped the script on him. If he was going to be fake with me by hiding his true intentions and try to trick me into a relationship, why shouldn't I be fake with him so that I can exploit him for emotional support?
I told him I just wanted to be friends. He said he was fine with that (I still laugh with my girlfriends when I mimic the facial expression he made). Then I waited. After about two weeks of us talking about my sex life with my ex-boyfrieds in facebook chat, I invited him to come over and drink beers with me at my place. I had invited some other friends over and they were already at my place when he got there. After he arrived, I put on some music and started dancing seductively while constantly staring at him. I ignored the other guys in the room and I treated him like a king. I constantly brought him beers when the one he was drinking was empty. I sat in his lap and touched him a lot. I laughed at all his jokes. Basically, I gave his ego a hand job.
I repeated this process two more times, and by the third, he made a move on me. I shot him down of course, which was the plan all along, feigned surprise at his sexual attraction to me and apologized for giving him mixed signals. He accepted my apology and left.
Now he goes shopping with me, always answers the phone when I need some advice, helps me repair my car, and buys me flowers from time to time. He's a good little beta boy, who knows exactly how to please me. He's my pathetic little emotional tampon.
You are being the stupid dipshit here.
If you are in the friendzone in the first place is because you see her on a unrealistic higher standard and you are a pussy ass'd bitch.
Both of these reasons make it neccesary to cut contact with her.
There is also a problem that most women cause for friendzoned stupid fucks that don't fuck off when they get rejected. If you are a pussy and you are her pussy friend she will squeeze everything out of you until you finally get fed up with her bullshit.
It is a tendency, not every girl will be like this but the vast majority of women know what the friendzone is and take advantage of it.
>Femanon here.
>Show her you still value her for more than her pussy.
>girls bitch that guys see them as only girlfriend material - in other words a pussy and nothing else.
>But you stop talking to her you lose your chances with any of her friends and you also lose the easiest opportunity to make her jealous.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
You clearly know absolutely nothing about women. They do NOT want some nice guy who 'values her for more than her pussy'. They do NOT want some beta orbiter who hangs around in the hope of getting some action. They do NOT want guys whose motivating factor is to make her jealous, as opposed to doing his own thing because he no longer gives a shit about 1 girl in a sea of millions.
Cool story, but an actual girl woulnd't ever fucking say "emotional tampon", you fucking retard.
TL DR thread;
>Cut it out
>Stop having expectations about it
>If you are a virgin fuck or little to no experience with females, cut contact
>Man up
>Date and go out with other girls
>Forget about her
If you haven't being able to swoon her by now you are utterly screwed, there is no likelihood you will get into her pants. Which is what you really want.
Don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise, you just wanna bang her asshole till it becomes an asterick but you gotta have game for that.
>We ain't nothing but mammals
You're on Sup Forums dude. It isn't like you have 10 girls in your life.
You can't force somebody to like you you ugly uninteresting bitch
That pic being post in relationship to the Friendzone makes me realize that the Friendzone is an extreme form of cuckoldry
Friendzone = weaponized cuckoldry. You're so much of a cuck that she doesn't even have to put a chastity cage on you to stop you from having sex.
Your chastity cage is your mind.