Hmm, really makes you think

Hmm, really makes you think

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this is what happens when people who have no idea how economics work(or are dumb enough to not care) influence wage laws

A link to the story would be nice.

What do sandwich artists have to do with this?

>doesn't link to story

top reporting.

You know it's very credible because they put "very credible" in the headline.

I like how the Washington Post is shit until it says something that you like.

>sandwich artist
LIBERAL DETECTED

>more right-wing propaganda

Eat shit

washington post is considerably left leaning tho

>very credible is in quotes
>Bad news for dems, not people?
>according to a source

Does anyone even know what "trying" means anymore?

Makes me think you're a faggot

>He called the work "very credible"
>The study [...] has not yet been peer reviewed.

Alright. Ignoring that, what did increasing the minimum wage do?

>employment overall did not change
>employers replaced low-paying jobs with high-paying jobs
>Vigdor said that restaurateurs in Seattle -- along with other employers -- responded to the minimum wage by hiring more skilled and experienced workers

Oh the humanity.

If you put the article aside(not credible source) it is still right in this particular case Raising minimum is fucking Washington

the washington post. right wing propaganda. AHAHAHAHAHA

>lowpaying top highpaying
well no shit the wage got increased, wait until Cost of living matches it, kek

Not like I live here and know that it isn't.

Now tell me about how legal weed is fucking us up too... That's generally what's next.

liberals voted that shit and campaigned for it, that is what the article is saying

So basically, some businesses won't be able to afford a $15 minimum wage.

How is this any different from the people who literally have to decide which bill they're going to skip this month just to feed themselves because they don't make enough money to survive on the basics.

Seems pretty boring study actually, headline doesn't match the contents.

Also - lets not pretend there is no possible middle ground between $15 and fed min wage.

My rent was going up 20% a year like clockwork BEFORE the minimum wage went up, dumbshit.

Wages have been stagnant for twenty fuckin years, they need to catch back up WITH the cost of living.

Buying a house used to take 3 years salary, you fucking moron.

Seattle's unemployment rate is 3.1% far below the national average. I think they'll survive just fine

The real story here is how the Koch billionaires of the world are managing to convince the people hoping for their crumbs that raising their wage will hurt them

sad lmao

>kills small business
Ok, washington's doing great bud.
Also, weed is for the unemployed and poor, so who fucking cares

...

You seem to be forgetting that your importance is directly related to your net worth.

Your bills aren't worth the granite countertops in my fourth house.

>was never an argument
>they wanted someone who was not a career politician you twat

it will only get worse from here

>that image
>implying Hillary had at least come to rustbelts and gave them their support

They still won't, because now instead of making $9/hour they'll make $0 because they've lost their job.

You can't compel a business to pay a worker more than they receive in revenue and expect it to last.

Lol.
Can anyone from the USA tell me if you really have a minimum wage or not?

>unemployed detected

>has 4 houses
>shitposts on /b

Seems legit

I'm sitting here in Washington right now... Small businesses have been dying forever.

And having worked in them, it isn't because labor costs are too high, it's because nobody can afford to go shop at a small business.

Getting paid 7.50 an hour is why Amazon is doing so well. You want small businesses to do well? You need to put money into the community that would contribute to it so that they can afford to, you fucking blockhead.

That's what this entire thread is about, shitbrains.

I personally know a millionaire that shitposts here

>The real story here is how the Koch billionaires of the world are managing to convince the people hoping for their crumbs that raising their wage will hurt them
"but listen... if we pay you more, you will become poor. Vote Trump btw he's safe christmass and make america great again kthnxbai"

bingo

Yes and according to a colleague of mine everywhere in the world has this law, the numbers just depends.

His name is John and he's alpha as fuck.

Well fucking duh, things have been going downhill since fucking Reagan.

Things only get worse because people are making money off of it. Once we destroy the incentive to destroy humanity, things can start getting better.

>doesnt get narrative devices
Lurk more

Actual business owner here...... you are retarded

Democrat =/= left.

Koch's became billionaires by offering groceries at a 3% markup.

You, on the other hand, have done nothing and contributed nothing to anyone. They deserve every fucking dollar they earn and you deserve to be poor.

Pretty much this. Conservatards thinking if we just lick the rich people's boots hard enough they'll give us some scraps to live off of. Maybe some more tax breaks? Still no more money to the plebs? What if we vote in more people to pass legislation you wrote yourself? Still not helping...hmm...

everything will raise to match it...if a company has to increase the rate it pays employees then theres no question they pass that cost to the consumer...the only thing this will lead to is inflation the dollar will be worth less and in a few years people will bitch no one can live off 15 an hour

i mean look at the bitch fit millionaire pizza daddy threw over having to offer healthcare to his people...the companies wont foot this bill

most democrats are left wing, so whats your point
>inb4 NOT ALL

>incentive to destroy humanity
C R Y B B Y DETECTED

Is this even satire at this point? They're practically doing that those dumb fucking hicks.

Some of us aren't begging for scraps - rather than complain that some people are doing well we just went out and started our own businesses.

Meanwhile dumbfucks like yourself are trying to use government compulsion to subsidize your NEET lifestyle.

Spoilers: you'll always be a poor loser. No amount of government assistance can save you.

Trickle-down has failed, miserably, totally, completely.

It turns out (duh!) that corporations didn’t use the central bank’s free money and low taxes for financiers to increase wages; they used it to fund stock buy-backs that enriched corporate managers and major shareholders.

Congrats. There was no element of luck in your life. You pulled yourself up by your bootstraps didn't you you little boy. I'm sure your shitty little business will always be there. Hell why can't we all just start our own business. That's super realistic.

Dumb cunt...

>this
Shit like this makes business ownership really hard
and then you bitch about BIG BUSINESS ruling the world,you guys are enablers

No shit trickle down failed. Trickle down economics isn't a real policy.

youtube.com/watch?v=nZPDpk8NA-g

Congratulations: you don't understand the basic economics.

I'm inclined to agree. There is some pathetic, sad worshiping of rich people going on here. Look at the way people worship Trump, a man who inherits hundreds of millions of $, without which he would be nothing.

I think some people just want to be ruled over by their perceived betters. These are the same right-wingers who usually mock & scoff at the thought of a hereditary monarchy btw.

I'm from Spain, the "left-right axis" (I hope this term makes sense in english) in the USA is tilt to the right compared to Europe. Your "left" is more right that some of our "right".

but you can, you jackass. Just because it's hard doesn't mean you can't do it. Quit being such a victim

Of course there wasn't luck in my life. I identified an opportunity for arbitrage and I took advantage.

Sorry you're not smart enough to participate in the free market without the government holding your hand.

than*
Sorry I'm high and tired.

don't forget dividends

The company i used to work for was bought up from bankruptcy by a billionaire

Then they ran it for a while and took out massive loans (like half the net worth of the company) and literally used it to pay out a dividend.. most of which went to that billionaire.

They said loans are so cheap why not? And tax wise it works out well for the billionaire. Truly insane

This is really the kind of thing local government should honestly take care of, I grew up in an area that saw a boom during my childhood and became super-expensive by the time I was high school age.

There was no option to, you know, get a job after high school, get an apartment, and just live... you either had parents take care of you, or you moved away.

The "moving away" part wasn't ever an option I really saw, for all I knew everywhere was like this, but I did all kinds of crazy illegal shit to make the money I needed to live, because i literally needed it to live.

And it worked great for me, I was a kid, barely had any conscience, I made tons of money all entirely at the expense of others, while contributing nothing.

At the very least, if areas become so expensive that people working entry-level jobs can't afford to live anywhere, they should have programs for shipping you off to somewhere cheaper

Being this fucking stupid. Mmmm divine right mmmm just world fallacy. Braindead conservatard FAGGOTS.

Uncle Tom Sowell is rolled out again to tell us in simple terms how wrong we are, yaaay.

What an absurd thing to say, that the theory doesn't exist. It was the basis for ALL of the Reagan-era tax cuts, no he didn't call it "TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS" and it is still the exact same thing.

But please send me more links of videos of various uncle tom right-wingers being interviewed by other right-wingers being paid by the Waltons and Kochs to tell us how low wages are actually good for us and we are being too uppity about this all.

That picture 100% sums up how I feel about retard Trump supporters. Fuck I hate those retards but liberals are even worse.

Jesus this species is a bunch of sheep and wildebeest. Mindless worthless herd animals to the slaughter.

we are talking in terms of american politics,sorry if there was any confusion bro

>>posts a valid point

Crybby fag lol I has no argument anymore cuz u used logic and facts durr

washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/26/new-study-casts-doubt-on-whether-a-15-minimum-wage-really-helps-workers/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name:homepage/story&utm_term=.0400414cef3d

So you'd rather your company go bankrupt? You realize you're complaining that a billionaire saved your fucking job, right?

You dumb motherfucker. Taking out loans to pay dividends is common, especially since your market cap will take a much larger hit if you fail to pay it - this is why Procter & Gamble is such a valued company, they always pay a dividend every year.

Rural people shouldn't vote.

I think this is true for both the politicians (and their policies) and the voters.

...

enjoy poverty, I currently make 300 k a year and have no debt

American journalism is completely responsible for some of the mess we're in right now. How unabashedly biased most of the outfits are is astonishing. Left vs. Right, pro-Trump vs anti-Trump, it's pathetic. Whatever will get website clicks and hopefully sell some papers will be taken advantage of. Fake news is a buzzword, but there's some truth to it. Professional journalism seems to be directly morphing into simple, awful online ads.

People with IQ under 150 shouldn't vote.

Only scientists should have the right to vote.

Our world would be much more left-wing.

>>doesnt get narrative devices
>Lurk more

> it's not bullshit, it's a narrative device

Valid point? I was confused, it really did look like BUTTHURT to me

I live in cowfuck hicksville and not a single person has ever said anything to this effect. This is a shitty strawman picture.

implying small businesses that can't afford to pay minimum wage are going to matter in hiring 3-4 employees.

A job is nothing to be grateful for, anonkun, it is the exchange of labor for money. An ostensibly equal exchange if you believe free marketeers on why we don't need unions and collective bargaining.

Are you grateful to the Wal-Mart cashier for selling you Twinkies and Ho-Ho's? Or is it just a free exchange of goods for money?

Consider this graph.
It's a bit outdated though, it's very much the same but Japan is a bit higher, google it.

this too

>I have never seen
>therefore nobody has

Good logic, you sound worldly and well-educated. Perhaps next you can tell us how Antarctica doesn't exist because you've never been there?

Lucky you, now you're gonna somehow relate that 100% luck of yours to some self-deluded sense of "skill" and "value" right? Instead of being thankful about your luck you will somehow relate it to your "competence" when genius Chinese slave farmers breathing in pesticides all day could have found the cure cancer.

People are feces for the most part. Prideful arrogant shit.

dont like it? You can leave, I am having a good time

Jesus christ you are fucking 16

>>was never an argument
>>they wanted someone who was not a career politician you twat

>run on being an unqualified billionaire that's going to purposefully fuck up everything you can get your hands on
>win

These fucking people.

It's good to see eloquent people in this site.
I don't agree so much on your misanthropy.

>unqualified
35,american born
Am I missing something?

Your two points aren't mutually exclusive. I can be grateful to a cashier for facilitating the free exchange of goods.

And we don't need unions. Or collective bargaining. Competition for goods drives down prices and competition for employment drives down wages - both of these are good for the consumer.

That is bullshit. Tons of homeless people all over the state, lots of skilled trade businesses are constantly short handed.
The traffic gets worse every year and the state is talking about making major roads into toll roads to help fund all thier bullshit.

Seriously. I laughed, I lost.

I'm spanish, we are not much better.
>dont like it? You can leave, I am having a good time
By the way, what type of argument is this? This reminds me of Trump.

Luck? What the fuck are you talking about, "luck?"

You're conflating luck and intelligence. I was smart enough to identify possible opportunities for profit and exploited them. There's no luck about it, it's time + skill + intelligence. Nobody handed me success, I took it myself.

Nope. Just lots of life experience. Rich people like to delude themselves a lot but contribute much less to the species than the average chinese farmer or slave factory worker. Especially if they work in finance. No contribution whatsoever. Useless waste of human flesh.

It is learned over many years.

>Socialism (socialist policies) doesn't work!!!11!!!

I'm having a good time too, you insufferable twat, but I don't want to see the millions of broken, sick and unemployables forced into and dying in the street.

It's our fucking responsibility to take care of each other.

If you want to live in an African style hell hole, why don't you move your fat ass over there and live like kangs, and leave us to our picket fences and decency towards our fellow man.

tru dat, it's amazing what money does to a person and their ego, as if they are somehow better than everyone else.

Also, there is much skill and struggle in being an entrepreneur, it is all in one's mindset. Your negativity and narrow world view will forever make you bitter and unhappy

Kek you're so mad.

There's low income inequality in Sudan. Maybe you should try living in that utopia.

why change a country to your world view if there are people who like it the way it is

lmao you know nothing about stocks at all

taking out a loan to pay a dividend is ridicously stupid for everyone except for that billionaire who got his money at a lower tax rate

Bankruptcy court kept them from going out of business. Taking out billions in loans (to over build) is what sent them to bankrupcy the first time. They will go back the second time because of the loans to pay out this dividend

Like 85% of the employees make minnimum wage btw. Truly a shit company