Kevin Smith Revisiting the Prequels

youtube.com/watch?v=2yOGLf3hd6k

Mike Stoklasa just took it up his ass

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/4ESOrF_u1hg
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

why is this guy famous in usa? i only saw him in clerks, which is good and clerks 2, which is not bad.

Chasing Amy is his magnum opus, pham. Pure kino.

Zack and Miri Make a Porno is also pretty good.

Kevin Smith already BTFO RLM when he blocked them on twitter, without any prompting.

>jay goes to tweet at him
>finds out hes blocked

KEK

Well if you were alive in the 90's it was a different world then your millennial one. It wasn't as much about dank memes and best screen tests in china.

So is the beef with him and RLM for real?

Why would a celeb director, an author of a couple of cult films and a succesful TV personality waste his time with a twitter flame war with a bunch of youtube nobodies?

He makes no mention of Mike, RLM or the Plinkett reviews.

Are you fucking dense?

I don't know Kevin, why would you?

Basically the more web-stuff I see a "celeb" do, the less famous they are, and this hockey shirt lover is always on YouTube

>Basically the more web-stuff I see a "celeb" do, the less famous they are, and this hockey shirt lover is always on YouTube

He also has a new TV show on AMC together with Greg Grunberg.

>People are still trying to defend this shit.
Holy fuck when will it end?

defend what?

>Mike Stoklasa just took it up his ass
How so? Kevin Smith likes absolutely everything. His justification for this is that it's "dope" and "sick-tight" when things happen on the screen, man.

The prequels. To this day people are still trying.

The prequels are good. They don't need defending.

The fact that you immediately relate the prequels to Mr. Plinkett shows how culturally relevant his reviews were. This video by Kevin Smith will be remembered by nobody, specially not him.

RLM

>The prequels are good
At showing how not to make a movie. They're the worst big budget films ever made.
How can Michael Bay even compete? in b4 Michael Bay is a misunderstood genius

Just because you grew up with them, doesn't mean they're good lad.

Not gonna Lie, My dream is a RLM and Kevin Smith collaboration in something. They have taken many shots at smith, but Jay also used to be a big fan of his. You can all call me a fag and I know it'll probably never happen, but I wish Kev would go on BOTW

>2016, calling people cats

He's an absolute madman!

I grew up with the OT. I still like the prequels.

I don't rewatch the prequels any more. I just rewatch the Plinkett reviews.

>Kevin Smith's opinions
Is there anything more worthless?

I don't think they have anything against Smith personally, but he blocked them on twitter before they've ever interacted so he probably hates them.

Unlike Max Landis who is a fan of theirs.

>"Ultimately it's about the failure of the Jedi to detect these things."
>My brain automatically goes back to that scene where Palpatine tells Anakin and Obi Wan to kill Count Doku for no reason. kek
This guy gives my brain cancer, why does Sup Forums like him?

Kevin Smith likes everything for the most part. It's like he's afraid to say something bad about a movie.

That's because RLM reviews are more like Star Wars than the prequels were. You get to take in what's being said without having to think about it.

WTF I hate Susan now????

Graham Linehan is also a fan, specifically of their Jack and Jill review.

>be Kevin Smith
>watch Space Cop
>no giant spider
>blocked the shit out of Mike

I hated Zack and Miri the first time I saw it but it grew on me. It's a dumb but a comfy movie.

Dogma and Clerks are his only films worth seeing

Dogma is his only masterpiece. If the Vatican had a sense of humor it'd be one recognized as a great Catholic film.

>This guy gives my brain cancer
explains your reasoning

Yeah thematically the prequels had interesting concepts but film is a visual medium and the way the story was told was atrocious. The story itself could be interesting but there are too many other things bringing them down.

Face it Kevin, they're bad films.

His voice sends my midichlorian count off the charts

Those are thetans, not midichlorians.

>The Prequels are GOOD if you change the entire way you think.

Ok, so even if we watch the films in the "prism" that it is about the failure of the Jedi, that doesn't make up for the horrible acting, boring pacing, terrible writing and overall cheapness.

I honestly don't get how people defend theses films. They have almost no value as cinematic art.

Kevin 'Manchild' Smith

Prequels = political kino for the true cinema watcher

Episode 4-6 = Baby shit

Ask yourself: If these movies didn't have weren't part of the Star Wars universe, would I still like them?

...

Oh, the guy who directed Tusk and thought "Wow, I made a really good movie" now thinks the prequels are alright? Surely I will trust him.

I do. What of it?

Pretty much this. I'll never understand the Sup Forums meme of defending these movies. Even if it's ironic it's not funny.

Nah, that's his sugar levels.

autism speaks

Your response doesn't answer his question.

>t. Satan worshiping kike

The prequels are terrible. They can't be defended.

Chasing Amy was the first sign of his cuckhold nature, with it's constant fawning over lesbians.

Dogma is fucking tripe. Smith knows as much about theology as he does about fashion.

Yes is did.

Disney shills speak

It's a reddit/disney conspiracy against your good taste, user. Everyone is out to get you.
Keep fighting the good fight, my man.

It's in the nature of Sup Forums posters to say things that are contrary to popular opinion, even popular opinions on their own site.

They can make a turd and calls it Star Wars that Kevin Smith will say it's marvelous.

Then the correct response would be "I would". But even then I ask why? What is it about the prequels that you like so much?

did he hear they made fun of his jorts?

He obviously has time to make pieces of shit like Yoga Hosers, why wouldn't he have time to argue with internet losers?

hes right

>I understood that reference

kill me now

Explains why he like Force Awakens

Ok, but why?

This. They're badly made movies, and them having a cool subtext doesn't change that.

And I doubt that that's what Lucas had in mind when he was making them. In every interview he's given regarding they Jedi, he seems to view them as the ultimate force of good in a world which he views with a very black or white sense or morality. I doubt he would make a story about how a group of people which he doesn't view negatively were failing.

RLMemers BTFO !

Think they made fun of COP-OUT or something

I'm so sick of this shit. Prequel defenders get BTFO every thread, but they always come crawling back. They're like fucking cockroaches.

They're all shit if you take them out of the star wars universe

Every problem with the prequels exists in the sequels

Every argument against the prequels boils down to an argument for a film students idea of movie theory instead of something people like to watch

Things like "a proper story is x" is bullshit

dat projection

>get btfo
>masturbatory delusions

I like Kevin, but he loves too many things for me to take him very seriously. It's just like Sup Forums; I love you bros, but you hate way too much to be an opinion I listen to without fail

>saw him in
You know that he's the writer and director of those movies, right?

The suck because they are filmed like soap operas. The camera work is terrible, flat, and ugly. It deflates any sense of excitement or emotion. The story doesn't matter, the lazy filmmaking does.

That guy's still around? When the fuck was the last time he made anything interesting? Dogma, maybe.

...

This, Kevin Smith is a literal retard who embodies the worst aspects of nerd culture shit. Do you think someone with actual taste would've made Jersey Girl or that fucking walrus movie?

>it deflates any sense of
Completely subjective opinion you're trying to pass off as objective

I.e. reeks of academic film theory garbage

I personally thought much of the sequels were full of dull scenes representative of filming in that era

I think both the sequels and the prequels are decent at best and people trying to make some grand distinction are delusional nostalgiafags

A man who wears nothing but jorts and XXXXXXXXL hockey jerseys objectively has bad taste

he used to be an indie Hollywood insider who tell stories about famous people in his "stand up" if you can call them that .. check the old one's for great stories about afflec and bruce wills

chasing amy is great.

feels to this day

>The fact that I immediately relate the prequels to Mr. Plinkett shows how culturally relevant (In my mind) his reviews were. This video by Kevin Smith will be remembered by nobody, specially not him

the prequels are as shit as the OT is

7 was even worse

Then you have no business discussing film, if the best you can muster is dismissive statements with zero analysis involved. The problem with prequel apolgists is that their best arguments include "I watched it with my dad when I was 4" and "no, seriously, they're really good".

Ok, lets take the scene from RotS when Anakin is rushing to palpatine's office to help out in the confrontation against Sheev.

youtu.be/4ESOrF_u1hg
Skip to 2:06 for what I'm going to talk about

Cut to Anakin speedwalking through a chamber, almost having reached the office.

There is nothing exciting about that scene. The camera is at a completely flat angle while Anakin literally just speedwalks through the frame. Other than the score completely outshining everything on screen, how was any of that supposed to build tension? How am I supposed to care about the confrontation and the possibility of Windu dying?

>subjective opinion
Sure ultimately it's subjective but if there's one thing the original trilogy got right it's that it at least got you to care about what was going on not just through story, but visuals as wel

americans worship fatness.

Ok kid.

You made the connection, not me. You can't even keep track of your posts because of ADD, which also causes you to enjoy the prequels.

>Dogma is fucking tripe. Smith knows as much about theology as he does about fashion.

I bet you're a protestant you fucking hillbilly.

The only true opinion

Nope, I'm a dirty Papist. Smith was trying to create a theological justification for his slacker, self-indulgent gen-x ethos.

Religion's fucking dumb anyway.
Bunch of satanic apes think as long as they pray and ask god for forgiveness, they're suddenly good people.
Fuck them.

>Mike Stoklasa just took it up his ass
This is my fantasy

>I agree with muh psot
Good job, Corky.

Easy there kid. That's not what we're talking about

the fact that you have to come up with a rationalization of the prequels to explain their significance means they were bad at what they were trying to do. kevin wants to be good with disney and the machine, he wants to keep making money, of course he is going to say the prequels were good. he's a sell out. don't trust anyone over 30.

Stop posting, Jay.

Fatman gave him the goofballs.

>then you have no business discussing film
Lol objective artfags are *literally* the most useless people on the planet

Subjective value is absolutely an acceptable measure for film quality

After all, if it has all the objective qualities of your standards, yet lacks entertainment value, it's shit

That's literally just an establishing shot to convey urgency, and then anakin taking in the situation

This is what I'm talking about, overly autistic evaluation of meaningless details.

>how am I supposed to care?
Why are you asking a subjective rhetorical question and acting like it's an objective one? We know windu is in peril. It's supposed to be a black and white depiction of good and evil for children to understand. And they do, and you dont.

>OT got visuals well done
I found several shots terrible in the OT. Dagobah was full of simplistic establishing shots I found worse than your autistic cherry picking of simply a character arriving, as if that should be some profound moment

Don't tip so hard, you'll break something.