Have you reverted to Islam yet lads? At what point did you realize that it's the ultimate redpill when practised correctly?
>believes the creator is ONE not three (pure monotheism). >believes in the messengers Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them). >many righteous women that dress like the virgin Mary (may God be pleased with her). >has God's law instead of man-made conflicting laws and ideas. >provides basic resources for citizens. >destroys racism. >destroys tribalism. >destroys greed. >destroys borders. >destroys nationalism. >unites the world under one flag.
>no bacon >no booze >pray 5 times a day >superstitious horseshit from the dark ages >oppresses everyone, the real kind of oppression not special snowflake opression >honor killing >circumcision >suicide bombing
It's a 10/10 troll though.
Brayden Wright
because I dont like fucking goats or blowing myself up. and bacon if fucking tasty. fuck off sand nigger.
Xavier Wood
Kek'd
Well played user, fuck Islam
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Justin Sanchez
Magic sky daddies are for children. How do you expect to be taken serious?
Nathaniel Smith
>implying bacon and booze ia good for you anyway >implying connecting with the creator often is bad >only oppress the oppressors >honor killing nothing to do with Islam >circumcision is recommended but not obligatory >implying you have to kill people
Juan Martin
>implying that univerae came from absolutely nothing at all
That's the biggest fairytale I've ever heard lol!
Benjamin Mitchell
>>honor killing nothing to do with Islam >>circumcision is recommended but not obligatory >>implying you have to kill people
You think anyone buys this shit? Islam can't even keep muslims in line and whenver they're caught apologist scum play the "NOT REAL MUSLIMS" card.
Take your backwards religion back whatever fucking cave in the middle-east you came from.
Meanwhile western civilization will thrive without your poison, as soon as we decide to kick you all the fuck out.
Dylan Sullivan
That's a terrible reason for believing in god.
Carter Watson
Why don't you want to experience the pleasure of the world?
Evan Hughes
Life's not a game. Life's not a joke. I'd rather not follow my own desires.
Anthony Thomas
The creator argument will always stand as a fact until someone can explain a way for the universe to come from nothing which they'll never be able to do.
Kevin Jones
>implying you have to do any of those things
Chase Torres
>redpill Go back with your shitty b8
Brody Phillips
Seriuosly, what is the benfit of believing such a bullshit? Just because someone wrote a strange book hundreds of years ago I should dedicate my life without ANY proof whatsoever? This is madness!
Dominic Miller
>be god >create humans and delicious bacon >forbid humans to consume bacon >ultimate troll
Hunter Martinez
All the messengers from God came with the same message which was to worship one creator. That's your purpose in life.
Jacob Mitchell
Just because there's pigs on the earth it doesn't mean you should eat them. There are elephants on earth but you wouldn't eat them, would you?
Nathaniel Mitchell
Just as valid is the question of where God came from.
Ryder Martinez
Converted, not reverted. Reverted means that you left Islam and then returned to it; which would make you an apostate and mean you need to be stoned to death. Let me call the imam and I'll have him meet us as the quarry.
Camden Lopez
There's no such thing as nothing.
Benjamin Evans
So atheists how are your lives more wholesome than those of religious people?
William Fisher
Fuck you and your shitty god. Muhammed was a pedophile.
Luke Moore
Wrong. Muslims believe everyone was born a Muslim. A muslim means 'one that submits to God'. Babies naturally submit to God without a choice. So by becoming a Muslim you are reverting to what you once was.
Gabriel Harris
I would.
Kayden Anderson
>put on earth by a creator so we can spend our entire lives worshipping him Sounds like the ultimate cult of personality. Any chance Allah is Kim Jong Un?
Jackson Wilson
>implying there was intercourse with his wife before puberty
Leo Hall
I'm an atheist who was raised Catholic, but I still like the idea that the meaning of life is to "glorify god." Not to worship a deity, but to live your life in such a way that your actions are positive enough to draw people to do the same, etc.
As far as Islam though, I don't like it. It's a horrible religion in its root form, as is Christianity to a lesser degree, but unlike Christianity the most significant reforms were even more fundamentalist. Ahmadiya or whatever it's called is what I hope mainstream Islam moves toward.
Jack Torres
No. You're just replacing one question (Big Bang) with an even bigger question (God). That's not an argument, that's bullshit.
Owen Howard
What don't you like about it?
Anthony Perez
The haddiths say Muhammad consummated his marriage with Aisha at the age of 9 (nine) years.
Eli Peterson
>All the messengers from God You mean some retards with hallucination? Sorry, but I want at least SOME kind of proof. Otherwise all religions have the same probability of being true.
Asher Lewis
Not it's basic Science. Something that is not all powerful can't come from nowhere. You can't say who created God because there would be infinite regression. There has to be something that never had a beginning.
Sebastian Ward
Yes she had reached puberty.
Logan Lee
In theory, why not? Pigs are more practical to raise and maintain. But if there were no pigs, why not tasty elephant bacon?
Nathaniel Sanders
>There are elephants on earth but you wouldn't eat them
Some old ooga ooba tribes has eaten them before
Lucas Parker
>reverted >implying LOL nigga u dumb
Lucas Fisher
Retards? There were thousands that came with the same message. ONE GOD.
Colton Perry
the universe has ever existed. I did it
Jacob Taylor
You have animals that have been put here for us to eat such as cows, chickens, goats, sheep etc. The tame animals.
Isaac Roberts
Muslims believe everyone was born a Muslim. A muslim means 'one that submits to God'. Babies naturally submit to God without a choice. So by becoming a Muslim you are reverting to what you once was.
Isaiah Cruz
Fuck your shitty fag ass religion of pedopheilea. Fuck your goat fucking god. And fuck you. I cant wait to end my first mudslime. It will be slow.
Luis King
No, saying we don't know is basic science. Assuming something all powerful and then justifying it with itsself is bullshit. Just because you can THINK OF something all powerful doesn't even mean it's possible, let alone exists.
The point you're making is a couple of 100 years old and has been debunked many times.
William Turner
I masturbate to traps without guilt
Landon Johnson
You are a very nasty person. Satanic. Very evil. Get some help.
Ethan Hall
Most of Islam doesn't appeal to me. For one thing the doctrine is basically the doctrine of the other Abrahamic religions but more severe. As a closeted tranny I'm fairly certain Sunni Islam would reject me altogether.
In addition, the Quran describes Muhammad as what amounts to discount Gengis Khan. He was a polygamous warlord.
Also, I'm a libertarian so the idea of theocracy and a Jizyah is fairly unattractive as well.
That and doctrinal inconsistencies. Muslims typically hold Jesus in high regard, yet it's well documented that he referred to himself as God, the son of God, or the son of man numerous times. Wouldn't that make him a heretic?
Thomas Hill
If you can show me one quote from Jesus where he says he's God I'll convert to Christianity today. Jesus never said he was God. Only the people hundreds of years later claimed that.
Cooper Morales
Pros: get to bang kids Cons: No drugs or alcohol, no pork and the whole Ramadan thing
Owen Moore
LOL NIGGA U DUMB
Nathan Harris
And thousands that say that the earth was created 6000 years ago, that proves nothing. They did not come up with it independently by themselves, but by word of mouth from others. They were just regurgitating.
Samuel Sanchez
"Satanic" "evil" Different guy here. Fuck off with your superstitious words. There is no god, all religion is for dipshit mouthbreathers.
Adrian Kelly
Religion is for fucking morons.
Ryan Gonzalez
I noticed the mighty mighty Muslim has no answer for this
Brayden Stewart
...
Ryan Jenkins
Wow, are you dense? You know, that these animal were bred from wild animals to have certain traits? Chicken, cow and sheep were not given by god.
Parker White
I did answer
Austin Ward
Everything materializes the way it's creator intends.
Josiah Baker
My nigga
Adam Lopez
eating bacon, and having a functioning brain
Camden Flores
Because I can make my own decisions
Jonathan Lopez
Wow, that is the pinnacle of bullshit. I see that you are resistant to logical arguments, therefore I will leave this thread.
Brody Edwards
Only an all powerful being can exist without a beginning. So since he doesn't have a beginning, doesn't that mean he lacks something? If he lacks something, then he is less than perfect. If imperfect, then bacon.
Checkmate figgit
Camden Taylor
This is worth reading theough. As I said before, I'm an atheist, but I believe Islam has an even shakier logical base than Christianity.
I don't know if my life is more wholesome. But I can use my energy to make this life and this world a better place without being held back by nonsense rules from a fantasy book.
Jayden Kelly
>implying that having a beginning is a good thing.
That's like saying if he has never poo'd his pants he's not all powerful and lacks the ability to poo his pants. Silly argument
Andrew Flores
Traps are God's creations
Jaxon Rivera
So a religious person can't have a functioning brain?
William Foster
Go and read some Islamic propaganda too. Go to Muslim sites and see what they say. Google things like "was jesus god. Islam"
Blake Howard
So you say that religion makes you a worse person?
Justin Gonzalez
Not silly. An all perfect, truly perfectly perfect being lack nothing: no attribute, no single predicate, can be said to full to inhere, align, partake of, such a being. There's nothing it hasn't done. There is nothing it doesn't possess. Otherwise, Zoroastrian doctrines completely destroy your view since there would be fundamental opposing forces in the universe. But but...muh monotheism. Go read dipshit.
John Perez
Not necessarily, but it holds people back from thinking and acting freely. Arbitrary rules are imposed on your life, depending on your religion.
Camden Carter
I have. I looked at everything when I stopped believing in Catholicism. The fact is there's no convincing proof of anything. I still think that religious doctrines are good sources of philosophy though.
Robert Wood
I see most of you are mature, experienced atheists here. Can you give me scientific proof that there is no such thing as a God
Jaxon Butler
Read the news. Haha
Parker Peterson
Please tell me more how free are you because you're not religious. Genuinely curious
Kevin Mitchell
Troll. The proof of existence must come from those who make the claims. Also, I do not claim that there is no god. But as long as nobody can give me the slightest hint of his existance, I cannot believe in such a thing. It just doesn't make sense to me.
Juan Kelly
Suggestions?
Ian Scott
imo a god that demands submission and love isn't worth worship
My god created mankind with freewill and doesnt interfere. I'd imagine it's much more satisfying to be loved by someone out of their choice to do so rather and be 'loved' by someone who must out of fear.
Jose Watson
>Arbitrary rules are imposed on your life, depending on your religion.
Nicholas Kelly
There is no way to scientifically prove there is or isn't a God. The only significant arguments or "proofs" for the existence of God can be refuted relatvely easily, and then you're back to square 1. If there's no visible evidence of something, and there's no way to prove it exists, the logical thing to do is to assume it doesn't.
Joseph Nguyen
existence
Brayden James
Children in orphanages dying by fire in the dozens on a weekly basis? American politics? Syria? Take your pick. If there were a god he is more like what people superstitious people call the devil.
Parker Hill
sad honestly that you are serious
Cooper Baker
No it's basic logic. Something that is not all powerful can't come from nowhere. You can't say who created God because there would be infinite regression. There has to be something that never had a beginning.
Andrew Ortiz
>believes the creator is ONE not three (pure monotheism). The creator is one expressed through three persons, you cuck >believes in the messengers Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them). So then Jesus is a liar, because he did NOT claim to be a "messenger", he claimed to be the Son of God. The Messiah. Muhammad threw Jesus being a "messenger" in there as a bone for the Christians he was conquering.
Also, Muhammad was a warlord/pedophile that sought power, and got it through creating a false religion. >many righteous women that dress like the virgin Mary (may God be pleased with her). Wait, so Mary is a virgin, Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit (or God or whatever you want to believe), but yet he's just a prophet. Haha, nice joke >has God's law instead of man-made conflicting laws and ideas. So does Catholicism >provides basic resources for citizens. No it doesn't >destroys racism. See: Slavery >destroys tribalism. See: ISIS or any Muslim group, including Muhammad. >destroys greed. See: Muhammad and slavery >destroys borders. Damn right it does, that's the problem >destroys nationalism Replaces it with cult thinking >unites the world under one flag. That's the problem.
Alexander White
Actually the religious one will give you plenty of proof. Or at least try to. The atheists are the ones who, when confronted to proove the non-existence of God, can't give an answer
Hunter Mitchell
So you consider yourself free, then?
Tyler Ross
Show me one place in the Bible where Jesus said he was God and I'll convert to Christianity today. Jesus was a messenger sent to the children of Isreal. Do your research.
Logan Taylor
Yes : muslims Also check em
Caleb Wright
Maybe you don't get God's plan, mortal?
Julian Wood
I can't. I also can't prove, that my thoughts are NOT controlled by aliens. Should I believe that too now?
David Robinson
The same thing applies to the big bang.
Asher Morgan
He was killed for being the son of God. He never directly said it, but indeed, when asked if he was, he said "That's what you say I am, therefore I am" or something of the sort. He didn't deny it, like a prophet would be apt to do. Not only that, but the body and blood through bread and wine can ONLY be explained through Jesus being the Son of God. The miracles that have been seen through consubstantiation, for example the blood and body turning into physical blood and body (in the 1970's it was tested as being of the same blood type, there was no preservatives despite it being from the 700's and being in decent condition, and the body was in the form of the heart wall.)
Muhammad was what? Some loon who wanted power. And he got it.
Elijah Brooks
Finally someone. On the other hand though. If you can't proove or disproove God's existence, isn't it more intellectually honest to admit that you just don't know like agnostics do?
Gavin Lopez
fuck islam and fuck you. die in a fire you goatfucker
Nolan Stewart
Then why don't admit that you simply don't know, instead of saying there's no God
Justin James
I'm not him. I don't think that really matters. You can say you don't know whether god exists, but then you'd also have to say you don't know whether smurfs exist. That or discard both ideas.
Easton Howard
Please watch this video and some other videos of his too if you like. It will answer everything. Be open-minded.
The one common belief that everyone has about death, whether you've thought about it or not, is that an infinite amount of time passes once you die. Whether you believe that nothing happens or there's an afterlife, an infinite amount of time passes. Now, with infinity, everything happens eventually.
Such as an infinite God popping into existence, but with an infinite God, He'd have been there since the beginning.
Nathaniel Jackson
Lol you're mortal too dumbass. If there were a god his plan appears to be "make the human race cannibalized and emotionless husks". I'm starting to feel that way. Do people really taste as good as hotdogs?