I created a Wikipedia page for Fishmans' Uchu Nippon Setagaya, but an admin is trying to get it removed for not being notable enough to merit an article. My problem is that Wikipedia requires multiple credible independent sources to cover a topic for it to merit its own article. I was able to find one review the Wikipedia people consider credible: optimisticunderground.com/2016/02/09/fishmans-uchu-nippon-setagaya/
However, due to the Fishmans' relative obscurity in the West, I have been unable to find another credible independent review (or news article, or mention in a book, etc.). Generally, Wikipedia requires at least two such independent sources for an article to stay. I am sure that there are some credible reviews of the album in Japanese, but I cannot read it, so I have not been able to get any. Would anyone be able to help me out by finding credible sources reviewing (or even mentioning) Uchu Nippon Setagaya in Japanese? I am sure they must exist.
I really feel this album is important enough for its own article (especially since King Master George and Neo Yankees' Holiday both have their own articles). If you can, I could use any help I can get to keep this article alive. The Wikipedia deletionist admins cannot win. They already deleted the Shinji Sato page that I created. This album is too important for me to give up on.
just use google translate on some japanese reviews until you find one that looks legit
they got plenty of press back in the day
there's probably also articles about the tribute show they performed for Shinji
Austin Anderson
Anthony Fantano, the internet's busiest music nerd - AKA TheNeedleDrop
Mason Foster
Why does this matter to you? I love this album as much as anybody, but I can't see the gravitas in having a wikipedia article on it.
Bentley Fisher
For good or for bad, many people look only at a topic's Wikipedia page. It serves as a kind of "validator" to many - i.e. if a topic has a wikipedia page, it is at least somewhat noteworthy. It is hard to explain.
hey man I was looking at that same page today, good luck in you search
Juan Moore
Additionally, I am irritated by the comments the administrator has made. She called the album "unnotable" in her rely to my defense of the album in the deletion debate (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Uchu_Nippon_Setagaya). In her talk page (basically the wikipedia equivalent of her FB wall or something), she claims to love writing articles about "obscure music articles." Yet she is hellbent on erasing a somewhat obscure album that she calls "unnotable" (she probably hasn't even listened to it)! The hypocrisy enrages me.
Camden Evans
holy shit stop trying to force this meme
Camden Jenkins
Good luck OP
What meme? retard
Gabriel Martinez
>le meme rap jap crap this is going too far
Anthony Wright
>rap
Jordan Young
Since when is Sup Forums into dub?
Ryan Stewart
here friend, i'll leave a comment. i need to reset the pw to my wikipedia account however. haven't logged into it in awhile.
Luis Bailey
same dude here, i got into the account. how is it that i comment on the debate?
Then, you can add a comment at the bottom. I think that is the correct way (it is how I left my comment). I do not usually get into these kinds of debate pages, so I am new to this as well. You can preview your comment before submitting to check that it looks okay format-wise by clicking "Show Preview" at the bottom after adding your comment.
Daniel Edwards
Also, I have just added a new section to the page with a new Japanese article I found that mentions Uchu Nippon Setagaya:
However, I worry that since the primary subject of the article is the Fishmans' discography in general, the admin will try to disregard it. For whatever reason I am having trouble finding a Japanese review of the album from a credible source (not a blog review, but a real website).
Adam Morales
writing a comment right now, friend
Hudson Rivera
Thank you greatly
Chase Lewis
Jesus christ that chick is a pretentious fuckhead for having such basic-ass taste in music and movies.
Jace Baker
how should i format this? is there i way to indent the paragraph so that it shows it is replying directly to hers or should it be at the same width as her comment?
Ryan Nelson
I am trying to figure that out now. I was wondering the same thing. There must be a way to indent it. Hold on, let me check it out.
Henry Morales
I figured it out. Just use two asterisks instead of one. So the first bit should be:
:**{{u|TheGracefulSlick}}
Instead of:
:*{{u|TheGracefulSlick}}
Jeremiah Bell
ah, alright. the comment has been left.
Evan Taylor
In other words, the following text:
:**{{u|TheGracefulSlick}} Testing testing...
at the bottom of the debate page will yield pic related.
Ethan Roberts
>The users of Rate Your Music, one of the oldest and most respected music rating databases, have ranked Uchu Nippon Setagaya to be the 30th best album of 1997 with a total of 1,190 ratings.
lol
Asher Jackson
Thank you so much, user. I am going to keep looking for more Japanese sources. The fight continues! Thank you also for being very polite and civil. I think that is the way to go.
Daniel Myers
Cringey, I know. I am just working with what I have.
Brody Morris
no prob user
David Morgan
Why aren't people working on the Long Season page? That one should be easier to cover
Brandon Wilson
They should be. I intend to, but I haven't got around to it yet, because it is not under immediate threat of deletion right now. So much more could be written about Long Season on its article. IMO, it is currently one of the most criminally undersized music articles on Wikipedia right now.
Wyatt Barnes
It's strange that Long Season isn't under threat of deletion given that there's next to no information on that page whatsoever.
Anyways thanks for your work, man. I love this band.
Dylan Hughes
Besides Fanthony Antano, what about Nardwuar? Aren't there any other japs or otakus on this board/website you could try to get help from?
Sebastian Bennett
>le meme rap have you heard a single song by fishmans
Luke Long
Should I revisit pic related? I only listened to it once, and I wasn't very impressed.
I fucking love Uchu Nippon Setagaya, while I think as an album experience it isn't as good as Long Seasons, it has stronger individual songs, tracks like Weather Report and Back Beat are incredible, and of course fucking Walking in the Rhythm.
Anthony Gutierrez
Yeah. You should. I think it's the weakest of the trilogy (little known fact-- Kuchuu Camp, Long Season, and Uchu Nippon Setagaya are a trilogy), but I think it's also the most popular. It's like... #3 on Rolling Stone Japan's top 100 Japanese albums. It's more dub and less dream pop than the other two.
Brody Adams
You should not be focusing on saving them now. They will get their time to shine. However you should save Hector Lavoe's soul alive my nigga. Save him. youtube.com/watch?v=i7B2v3jnH5w
Elijah Brown
Not a bad band, either
Cameron Stewart
Is that a fucking Jojo reference???
Logan Cox
>"The users of Rate Your Music, one of the oldest and most respected music rating databases, have ranked Uchu Nippon Setagaya to be the 30th best album of 1997 with a total of 1,190 ratings" That aside I do hope that it doesn't get deleted.
Levi Wood
Sincere thanks to user for introducing me to this work of art
Ryan Myers
So, it may be a longshot, but MAGIC LOVE was the ending theme to the Japanese show Count Down TV. You can probably milk a source out of that.
Leo Rivera
That might just work. Do you have a link to a source that lists Magic Love as the ending theme? If so I will add a section on that right away. I will also look. Thank you.
Alexander Turner
My (very) limited Japanese may be useful for once.
It was the ending song from (7/5/1997-8/23/1997). I know the page sucks, but most Japanese web design looks straight out of the 90s.
Brody Carter
The Billboard Japan page for Uchu Nippon Setagaya also advertises this fact. As does their Japanese wiki page. I have no idea if this show was a big deal or anything, but it's popped up a few times in my search.
