Why was it so good?

Why was it so good?

Magnificent acting from Ledger, top notch editing, good writing even though it has the typical nolanisms in it, engaging story and themes with interesting questions.

>good writing
>two-face
>that ''''OPTIMISTIC'''' yacht scene

Yeah, sure.

It wasn't.

"no"

It was 32 on the best movies of the 21st century list that came out recently

yeah because it's not like it was a superhero film or anything....my god 4 chan retards

>top notch editing
>good writing
>engaging story
>themes with interesting questions
no

an average movie with a great performance nothing more ffs batman cucks actually think this movie is something more than what it actually is

capeshit

It was pretty bad. Really shitty pacing, every scene was dissected and analysed conventiently by either Alfred or Freeman so the audience didn't have to feel so intellectually threatened or "mistakenly" misinterpret Nolan's autistic vision. Thank God for Nolan, he holds your hand the entire way through. Fucking hack.

How does he drive from the back seat?

minimal cgi tbqh, everything looked real

What Marvel movies does any of those things

It was a pile of shite.
Fuck Nolan.

Literally every single one.

>prisoners didn't blow up the other passenger ferry
>nigger prisoner shown to be compassionate
>HEY GUISE THESE CRIMINAL SCUM ARE PEOPLE TOO WOW THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE LET'S LET THEM ALL OUT

Errant nonsense - criminal apologists are the worst type - corrosive to society. Awful scene in a mediocre film only revered because the drug abusing actor killed himself.

really dude

Okay

Now which one did it better compared to TDK

prove me wrong
None, they're all as bad as each other.

That was Killer Croc

He didn't want to give into the Jokers shit

Why is this so hard to understand?

Because it was made by an actual filmmaker and not by a boardroom full of nervous executives.

made it through the first clause before fucking up

Oh so you're the "hate all capeshit it's garage" guy

You're either over 40 or friendless

Heath Ledger's performance is the only good thing about this movie. Everyone else phones it in. The editing is shit. There's glaring problems with the script.

>I read nolanisms but still want attention

There's nothing to prove you wrong tho. I just think that your critique is weird

Capeshit is the worst form of visual media in history. It doesn't have to be challenging or provoke a sense of creativity or thought. It simply relies on already established commercialised brands that have been peddled to the masses for the past 50 years. They're nothing more than shallow cashcows that serve to provide steady profits for Disney and their little jewish operators. They're a cancer on the industry and they should be labelled as such. There's nothing worth defending when it comes to capeshit.
how though

>ledger
>bale as bruce wayne
>aaron eckhart
>gary oldman
>great script as well. minor pacing issues, but the film is engaging and entertaining throughout so i can forgive that.
>fucking hans zimmer
>great ending
>no unnecessary cg bullshit. everything looked and felt real. this was nolan's trait. this is what made it special. there was no poison that turns people into zombies or whatever. it was just a lunatic shooting people and a guy dressed in bat riding a bike trying to stop him.

should have been number 1

Because you were five when it came out in theaters.

you're so upset you can't down vote lmao

I remember when this came out you were all over it's dick, and then it got popular and you all become ebin le contrarians

The "editing" was a shit.

Personally, I don't feel intellectually insulted when the characters explain things. If the director/writer has something to say and he doesn't want it to be misinterpreted then I think it's fine. Ambiguity doesn't automatically make it better.

>introduction to the 3rd act is Batman vs Jokers Henchmens AND The Gotham SAWT team at the same time

i might be upset but at least i'm not stupid enough to like nolan's trash

...

you sound like a fun person desu

"fun" is for retards

It was a great experience to watch this movie for the first time but I'm going to say it sucks to fit in.

Only one of few capeshit that gave you the feel "shit is going down" when its reach climax
Even with old batman movies it was like "lel ok final combat with joker everyone will fine in the end"

Did you watch it in theaters?

You're a dumb cunt if you can't come to the conclusion by yourself. I recommend you watch it again. Watch it intently, take everything in. Question motives, dialogue, pacing, editing, the directors vision, everything you can about the movie. Then you will truly see. The deconstruction is truly enlightening.

>Implying %95 of the Sup Forums was even around this time last year let alone back then

Except they do this to COV ER UP blatant plot holes.

No you don't, newfag

>Except they do this to COV ER UP blatant plot holes.
what do you mean t b h no memes

Why do they blam e what happened to Harvey on Batman and not Ledger?

Because the dark knight is symbolic of negroid society. They had to blame the black man even though he didnu nuffin

>top notch editing

The editing was pretty bad in parts, particularly during chase scenes.

Proof? Sounds far fetched

post no more dead cops extras

I thought TDK was just a sequel to the green mile when that scene came around

>give it to me, boss

that's an interesting plot hole
but i don't see how characters explaining things would "cover up" this plot hole.

It wasn't. Dark Knight was just as awful as Begins and Rises, people just give it a pass because Ledger died.

yo this niggas face look like an upside down birthday cake

Cape movies can be good. It's not that user's fault that the last cape movie that was decent was X2 and the last one before that was Batman Forever.

There hasn't been a single good cape movie since Batman Returns though.

>Aaron Eckhart
>BASED Gary Oldman
>phoning it in
kys

The Joker is an audience insert character.

He does all the shit that the audience would think to do in ways the audience would never think to do it in. That's why the movie is good. It's an audience fantasy movie designed to make the viewer feel powerful.

SAYYET

Nolan is coercin' you into accepting that this is how things HAVE to play out, even if it makes no sense.

RACHEL

It wasn't

eckhart was not good. the bad writing made it worse. he looked and sounded like an amateur at times, to be brutally honest. a shame because i've liked him in other stuff

oldman was terrible. accent slips, poor delivery, plus the ever-present shitty writing. he's an overrated ham in general, but nolan's writing made it particularly noticeable

>thinking to rob a bank just to burn all the money and blow up various public property for a laugh

if you're a r/politics poster finally gone off the rails maybe

because christian bale and heath ledger are acting gods

you obviously didn't accept it
Did you ever think it was just a mistake? You make it seem like Nolan is a stubborn megalomaniac

it was good.

I hate this board so much

Were there supernatural elements in TDK trilogy?

Like since all the villains had such luck it seems it was supernatural. Like some inhuman force was helping them.

Like why didn't they call Mulder and Scully? Fuck Batman

why? because this is the one place on the internet where people won't unquestioningly suck nolan's dick?

It was carried by Ledger. All non-Joker scenes were trash

Being contrarian little fucks : the thread

No...no, Yurnot....KNOTYITT

so Knotyitt was behind everything?

He probably hates it here because of faggots being contrarian just to fit in

yeah, the only way anyone could dislike this movie is if they're just putting on some sort of act

Seems like in this case, it was to put in some cool lines.

>Why do they chase him...

Because Heath Ledger.

Almost everything was a mess, as always, but the performance of one good actor made it a good movie.

Gordon didn't want people to think somebody so high in power could so easily be hurt/taken down by a lowly criminal.
Kinda retarded when you think how everyone thought Gordon was dead at one point.

It really captured the feelings bubbling in the subconciousness of places which would set the trends of the next decade, like Sup Forums. I mean let's be honest, it really defined or even created the style and direction of our generation, the internet generation.

But the question is why Batman, specifically, instead of the Joker?

imdb has some interesting answers; by making batman seem evil it would prevent normal people from becoming vigilantes

Someone had to take the fall for it.
Couldn't be a freak accident.
imdb's answer sounds good enough. Don't know if that's what Nolan meant behind the scene, but whatever.

Did Sup Forums ever do much Harvey-posting? The way Eckhart just screams some of his lines is memeworthy

YOU CANT GIVIN

>Someone had to take the fall for it.
Couldn't be a freak accident.

Whoever asks this question already understands this. The question is asking why that "someone" had to be Batman, and not the Joker.

it didn't. nolan is just a bad writer.

well as imdb mentioned
>by making batman seem evil it would prevent normal people from becoming vigilantes
is a pretty good point

Yeah, how DAARE people interpret things for themselves and see through Nolan's BS.

it's an interpretation, with not a lot of supporting evidence. the bat-vigilante plot thread was abandoned in the first 10 minutes of the film; there wasn't an indication that vigilantism was becoming rampant and needed to be deterred by some sort of negative example.

that one of the vigilantes ended up being killed on camera by joker is also something of a deterrent.

I don't remember any Two Face Sup Forums memes. I think we forgave him because he is an attractive man. but indeed his line delivery was meme after meme.

>shitty court scene where he disarms that faggot in the witness stand
>SAYYET
>NO UR NOT
>YU CANT GIVVIN
>WHERE MY FAMILY DIEEEEEDDD
>UR ABOUT TO KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE GORDON

He flubbed pretty hard. Literally grimdark, the character.

well-written score.
seriously, watch it without the music and it's just random capeshit

it has more supporting evidence then just saying that nolan is a shit writer.

>that one of the vigilantes ended up being killed on camera by joker is also something of a deterrent.
iirc that wasn't a vigilante, that was just someone the joker dressed up to look like batman

Cant remember the exact line but *flips coin* "looks like you lived to fight another day officer" *bonk*

Also I never knew what was quite going on in the warehouse scene, why did he knock his chair over and try to drink the gasoline?

>Also I never knew what was quite going on in the warehouse scene, why did he knock his chair over and try to drink the gasoline?

i hate this board.

He probably thought this was going to be his big break and was trying to one up Ledger. The only way he knew how to do that was to yell out all of his lines.

>Because it was made by an actual filmmaker and not by a boardroom full of nervous executives.

What were they doing in the bedroom together?

Absolutely fantastic opening sequence.

>it has more supporting evidence then just saying that nolan is a shit writer.
such as...?
>iirc that wasn't a vigilante
yes, it was one of batman imitators from the start of the movie. "hockey pads" guy specifically

>Batman: tries to clean up city but not become a monster, fails.
>Joker: is a monster, turns up, infiltrates and destroys the Gotham underworld, cripples their income, and turns the entire city into a better place by motivating its citizens to no longer accept crime and corruption.

Joker is simply Batman with zero fucks given, his success in destroying Gotham's underworld highlights Batman's over reliance on technology and useless moral code.

come on, that warehouse scene was basically plane scene logic

Because Ledger died.

Cause Joker was already in custody.