>wealth of interesting characters
>nearly 100 years of adaptable stories
>free franchise blueprints courtesy of years of superhero crossover success from Marvel
>only household-name director under 50 spearheading production
>fuck up over and over again
b-but Deathstroke lol
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Hack Snyder ripped off Season 3, Episode 17 of Scooby Doo for his BvS movie. The biblical symbolism and parallels between the two plots are far too similar to be coincidence. I piss on him, desu senpai.
because it's fun to laugh at the losers
>Batfleck against Deathstroke
Imagine what the fights will look like
DC movie seem to be shit but i don't know how the fuck they keep making money with DC films ?
Because everyone wants to see a batman movie. And at this point if you don't see it you're considered a fag
The symbolism is too deep in this meme for me can someone explain.
BvS was hyped out the ass for 3 years, but it ended making less money than a movie with a cartoon raccoon and talking tree.
SS also had a huge drop off after the hype of the opening, a bunch of people I personally know didn't want to watch it after the reviews ripped it apart.
They make minimal profits, but BvS was the most expensive movie of all time so it's basically a flop.
WW and JL will probably get budget cuts because of this.
back to /reddit/ faggot
Sup Forums is a DC, Snyder stronghold
>Sup Forums is a DC, Snyder stronghold
But ww actually looks good
Snyder is my favorite director
BvS isnt even in the top 10 for most expensive movies you colossal faggot
If only it was against based Manu Bennet
Sure but that doesn't matter if the previous movies didn't make much money.
also Gal Gadot a shit
I'm sure this genius knows exactly how much marketing costs, so he's inputting that in his equation
unload your entire Evans laughing folder you fucking redditor see if i care
>BvS was the most expensive movie of all time
Source on that?
People were blaming Snyder and Ayer for the theatrical cuts that WB execs butchered.
>Source on that?
his ass
It's 7 if you don't include marketing, and if you do, Warner said they spent over $500 million on it (making it the most expensive movie ever made)
Go tally up the box office for the first three Marvel films. Now do the same for DC.
I don't give a fuck what the critics say about these movies. They're crafted at a level rarely seen in a blockbuster with thematic depth unheard of for a big, dumb superhero movie, and those dumb shits couldn't pull their heads out of their asses long enough to stop pushing their own political agendas and see it,
So half a billion dollars ahead of Marvel's pace and so damn smart that 90% of critics didn't even know what the fuck they were looking at, let alone how to interpret it.
Now shut the fuck up.
I doubt BvS was as butchered as SS. Most of BvS faults are the same as in other Snyder movies, at least when it comes to the directing of the movie. SS was amateurishly edited into something completely different than what it was shot. It's so fucking obvious I couldn't believe a big studio would release something that looks like a preview cut.
kek no it fucking doesn't, it looks like they ripped off captain america and added a shitload of feminism to appeal to sjw's so they can't possibly give it bad reviews.
Not to mention the lead actress in the porn parody will likely be more talented than Gadot.
Pathetic.
DC movies have no depth at all, keep crying tho
this universe has crashed and burned
So it's just hearsay and bullshit. Check out the article, they cite as a source an article from Latino-Review which is titled "Hot Rumor: 'Batman v Superman' Budget Dwarfs Upcoming 'Justice League' Budget". And the whole article is written with words like "could", "would" and "may". Great source there, buddy.
>muh first three marvel films
When comic book movies weren't an established genre and the heroes Marvel actually had rights to were nowhere near household names. DC has fucking Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman, of course they're going to make money, even if the movies are shit.
>no footloose or dance off scenes
>no depth
ok kid
There is no thematic depth in any of dceu movies
You think mos, bvs, and ss contained powerful themes, all the parallels and "symbolism" was extremely easy to see and comes off as being very shallow. All 3 dceu movies were cgi crapfests
Also I don't think marvel movies are good either
guaranteed Stan Lee cries himself to sleep everynight because he sees what marvel studios have done to his characters
So that means dceu movies have depth
Explain what so deep about suicide squad
It was your average capes hit garbage
They have the depth of a cats half-drank water dish. They just keep retreading the same Jesus allegory in an attempt to make Superman a somewhat compelling character, which in itself is a cliche idea, but virgins on Sup Forums scream about how great it is.
>no depth
Ayy you shouldnt be speaking Stan
SS doesnt count
>oh yeah well y-you're reddit!
AHHHHHAHAHAHAHA
>When comic book movies weren't an established genre
Yeah, like there wasn't a whole Batman saga that span for about a decade, a Spiderman trilogy, an X-Men trilogy and a new Batman saga that had its second movie about to come out.
>implying that sellout gives a shit
How new are you?
>implying they're fucking up and there isn't an agenda against DC movies in the media
wew
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So you admit that suicide squad awful capeshit
Bvs wasn't deep at all, all those literary references don't make the movie better
And it's not like it had thought provoking themes. It turned into cgi shitfest in the last 30 minutes
The only thing they've "fucked up" is their RT scores. They haven't lost money and the fact is a lot of people actually like the movies, like it or not.
i havent seen suicide squad yet. more of a Snyder fanboy than DC
there's more depth in Snyder movies than in the entire marvel redditor universe let's just say that
>may
>source is a rumor from another rumor site
jej
Journalism is dead.
Marvel started with b listers that the general audience didn't know
Bvs had the one of worst comic book multipliers and the dome the worst legs of all time. It couldn't even outgross gotg and iron man 3 domestically
I wonder how Snyder feels about the fact that BRAVO NOLAN made better superhero movies than he did.
WW will really test the ""critics""
A DC movie but about feminism.
What will they do?
>When comic book movies weren't an established genre
disniggers literally think Marvel Studios invented comic book movies.
he's probably happy for him he doesnt seem like a jealous little faggot like you
There's nothing deep about Snyder movies, same with marvel movies.
Snyder movies are extremely shallow
Ex. Watchmen, turned a great complex graphic novel into a overly stylistic capeshit film
Sucker punch was just a cgi crapfest
Bvs and mos were also like that
Dawn of the dead was just another zombie apocalypse movie
300 was just men fighting in slow mo with fantasy bullshit
Guardians of gahoole was probably the most forgettable animated movie in quite sometime
>Deathstroke
There's nothing interesting about Deathstroke. He's as good a villain as Shocker is for Spider-Man. The best villains are ones that are complete opposites and that contrast well (Joker), or ones that are essentially evil doppelgangers (Venom).
>there's more depth in Snyder movies than in the entire marvel redditor universe let's just say that
They have the same level of "depth", if anything. Look at Civil War where they clearly examine America's intervention in the affairs of foreign nations using the Avengers as a metaphor, and even examine the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and whose hands are most trustworthy for them to be in, with underlying themes of friendship, loss, and government intervention into the lives of private citizens.
None of this is groundbreaking, but it's a breath of fresh air next to the same old "durrrr superman is strong, he like jesus" bullshit.
Nothing you said has anything to do with what we were talking about.
>mfw I'm kind of excited for Deathstroke because I'm tired of giant monsters and robots being the endgame of all capeshit
I love Nolan's trilogy but but BvS was honestly a much better BATMAN movie than any of them.
>Marvel started with b listers that the general audience didn't know
So what? Do you morons seriously think that general audiences have never turned out for new franchises before?
>le I can't believe a movie with a tree and a talking raccoon made so much money xD
Nigger, there's been far weirder shit in film that's made money than a fucking sentient tree and a talking raccoon. The MCU isn't special.
>movies must be critically acclaimed box office blockbusters to be considered having depth
>they clearly examine America's intervention in the affairs of foreign nations using the Avengers as a metaphor, and even examine the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and whose hands are most trustworthy for them to be in
So did BvS, moron.
They don't have to be critically acclaimed blockbusters
Make an argument for why you think Snyder movies are deep
I'll wait
So you're admitting they have the same level of depth then.
Bruce's PTSD over his parents death was also handled better than whatever the fuck they were trying to do with Tony's PTSD in Iron Man 3.
i dont watch disney movies so i wouldnt know
>avclub
but of course
Let me ask you something - who was the first true superhero?
If you'll bear with me and have the backbone to demonstrate some courtesy and intellectual integrity in our dialogue, I think I can show you something that you might find sort of amazing. I know I do.
>Bruce's PTSD
He exhibited no symptoms of PTSD until the MARTHA scene, so no.
Doctor Strange's director has a man crush on Snyder. Defend this.
They do that for like 10 minutes and then it's all BUCKY'S INNOCENT. LET JUSTICE DECIDE THAT, NO, I WON'T. YES YOU WILL.
And then back to destroying civil property without giving a shit about it and absolutely no consequence. Even the guys in prison at the end get free and the dude that was apparently dead wasn't only not dead but he was getting cured thanks to Tony's magical technology.
Hercules.
the duality of man. both batman and superman struggle with this. it's the same premise Nolan used in the dark knight. but in that movie joker pushed batman into it. so in that aspect Nolan did a better job of writing it
I think you mean Gilgamesh, but nice try.
Now answer the question because if you keep dodging, all it will make you do is show everyone what a chickenshit in action looks like.
His entire career as Batman is the result of PTSD. His constant bad dreams are also symptoms of PTSD, especially the one in the mausoleum with the man-bat.
I'm not the user you were talking to, but you asked a question on a public forum, and I answered. And I meant Hercules.
Who published Hercules comics?
You're just being pedantic because you know what he's talking about.
The Twelve Labours were the original capeshit
Their comics are awful and they can't stand that everybody knows it.
Marvel has the lowest trade sales in the industry, and even their unnaturally inflated floppy sales have tanked.
Eh, bvs did the same thing. Their fight was even about idoelogies either, it only happened because Martha was kidnapped
Reminder that Omega Men is the top selling trade on Amazon right now. Feels good.
Only if you ignore the epic of Gilgamesh, but that's neither here nor there, because I'm not talking about the myths of antiquity. I'm talking about their modern day equivalent and you bloody well know it.
As it stands, you've just fucked yourself out of a friendly discussion that you might have found interesting and enlightening, so congratulations, I guess.
This has nothing to do with what we're talking about
All Bruce's nightmares begin with the faint sound of the World Engine.
Who's opinion should I put more weight on regarding Snyder's films - yours or an actual film director?
Honestly the DCYou books, for as much as they pissed off retailers, probably helped books like Omega Men and Midnighter more than it hurt them. Even though they were on a march towards cancellation the hype generated by the floppies seems to help pump up tradewaiters.
Sort of reminds me of how the movie industry does trailers.
And there are also directors out there that think Snyder isn't a good director along with film professors, so what's your point?
>where's the source?!?!?
>here is it
>hehe i d-dont belive that source
Look, I think BvS was shit but the core of the movie was the ideological differences. Batman's reason to want to kill Superman was ideological, and so was Luthor's. And their visions were explored enough to see their similarities and differences, and why it ultimately makes sense that Batman got over it but Luthor never will.
It was still a bad movie, but at least it attempted to do something (and failed miserably at it). What I can't get over is how overtly cynical CW was. After all the crap they supposedly get for the collateral damage they cause, which is supposedly the core of the movie, they go and fuck a whole airport and nobody says anything about it after it happens.
When you cite something as a source it should probably be a good source first
I asked for the source, you provided it and it turned out to be a whole bunch of bullshit and rumors. I don't see any damage control there except for yours.
Not him, but I think his point is that the director of MCU's upcoming "capekino" thinks Snyder's awesome. I mean, I'm no genius, but I think he's pointing out the hypocrisy of people who will shout the praises of one guy solely out of brand loyalty and ignore his influences and those whom the man himself deems worthy of praise.
But you're probably the smartest person who's ever lived, so all the rest of us can do is aspire to your level of intellect.
There's no source though. Have you ever written a paper in your life? I can't just cite something as "this guy I talked to" and expect it to fly.
>they go and fuck a whole airport and nobody says anything about it after it happens.
General Ross gives Tony shit about it and attempts to limit his power afterwards since it was such a clusterfuck.
Batman's reasoning for fighting superman was good, but Clark's wasn't
He went after batman because people who were branded were killed in prison, to me that isn't a good enough motive. Not to mention the fact that superman is a fucking hypocrite for criticizing batman. Their ideological differences were undone by the Martha scene. Batman is still right about superman being a threat(the vision is proof), yet he doesn't carry it out. There's no real resolution to their conflict
I gotta admit I don't remember that.
Let me guess what happens: Tony goes says a funny comeback and the movie just goes on with the whole BUCKY'S INNOCENT shit.
>And there are also directors out there that think Snyder isn't a good director along with film professors
Like who? Roger Ebert thought Watchmen was a masterpiece as well. Richard Roeper raved about Snyder's direction for BvS. These are people with experience and knowledge as well. What the fuck do you know? You probably don't even read reviews and just shitpost RT scores.
I don't think I'm the smartest person
I just find a bit funny how people keep saying his movies are super deep, people don't understand them, but they don't ever back it up. They keep using the same words and keep shitting on marvel(which I don't like either).
>all these mad as fuck marvelcucks ITT
lmao
I'd back it up in a heartbeat if someone would cut the shit and answer one simple question.
It was in I'll engage in a dialogue about it, but I won't post it all out, because it would only get dismissed as "pasta" by "lol tldr XD XD XD" ADD dumbasses.
So if you've got the time, just answer it, and I'll back the shit out of every last thing I say.
>Batman's reasoning for fighting superman was good, but Clark's wasn't
Yeah, I agree with that. The main fault of the movie to me was Superman. He was horribly written, and he's at least a third of the whole film. Like I said, I didn't even like the movie but what I can appreciate in comparison to CW is that at least it attempted to do something else. It was a half assed attempt, brought down by rushed writing, forced elements, bad editing and the usual shit Snyder does with his movies but I rather have that than a cynical piece of crap like CW that's only meant to keep the money machine going without trying to do anything other than make sure everyone's ok for the next movie. Snyder's symbolism is fucking crap but I appreciate it more than that fucking TV camerawork and bland photography from CW.
But of course, above all that, I just rather have a good movie for a fucking change.
Clark's reasoning for fighting is what that lady told him about Batman. "A man like that, words don't stop him. You know what does? A fist." Clark tried to talk to reason with him, but Batman was so focused on beating the shit out of Superman that he pretty much had to fight him.
>Batman is still right about superman being a threat(the vision is proof), yet he doesn't carry it out. There's no real resolution to their conflict
That's mostly because Bruce came to his senses and realized that he's crossed the line he swore he'd never cross.