This is an absolute disgrace. How can you stand for this?

I just watched this on Netflix and I feel sick. How could the United States do this? It is a war crime, unequivocally a war crime. They get away from it because they "won". It is disgusting, the suffering and death they inflicted in an instant against an innocent population of hundreds of thousands. I saw now that Obama is visiting Hiroshima, the first president to do so since 1945 and he won't even apologise for it, completely pathetic and cowardly quite frankly.

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The gooks had it coming. Don't commit warcrimes if you're going to lose the war.

>hey guys the time you bombed those 2 cities is a war crime
>ignore the fact most of the bombers in dresden that night were british

Please go on

Cry more.

Cry more.

>Land invasion would have killed more (including US soldiers)
>If defeat was likely Jap civs would have been armed, still leading to civ casualties.
>Land invasion would have led to more battles and overall more death

I disagree with the bombing, but it was the best thing to do. I'll accept it's a warcrime if us Brits finally accept the bombing of Germany was also a warcrime.

>Japanese in WW2
>innocent

Lol. No.

Did it put it into perspective with the conventional firebombing happening all over Japan at the time?

If it didn't it's propaganda.

Regular bombing of military and industrial targets that missed due to inaccuracy of WW2 era bombs? No. Deliberate targeting of civilian populations? Yes, absolutely a war crime.

in 40s convention weapon much better than atomic this nuclear strike useless only see how we can no more

Carpet bombing civilian areas knowing full well that civs lived there? Yes, absolutely a war crime.

ok u autistic retard ill true to simplify the reason wh we did for ur austic mind
if the usa invaded japan. we would have had a another d-day.
thousands of american lives would have been lost if we did not drop the atomic bomb

Why would I apologize for the sins of my father?

Not a valid excuse for warcrimes, mate.

would you rather of had the ruskies, brits, chinks, etc. getting their fair share of japan?

yea if we hadnt dropped the nuke this board wouldnt even exist

I just said that but Ok.

so ur saying it would haev been better if thousands more being dead would have made it better

2 nukes were not enough infact you shouldn't have nuked them instead a full scale land invasion where the americans systematically wipe every slanted eyed gook from the face earth would have been their proper punishment

>war crime


No such thing op

>he thinks nuclear bombs are real

oh shit I thought you meant Hiroshima and shiet in the second part, my bad.

lol man before nuclear strike they burn tokyo before it destroy drezden and other and other.
if we start lurk it oh man....

Allow me to demonstrate the most efficient way of fighting those kinds of accusation.
>Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings never happened.
Easy, ain't it?

Oh shit! Based Mexicunt.

look up unit 731. Oh the poor, poor japanese, they didnt deserve it

Well maybe the japs should have thought twice before bringing us into the war~

This. War is hell kid. Welcome to planet earth.

thank u biased russians
u are forgiven for
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Did the rape of berlin happe, my russian friend? My grandfather said it didn't.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

When did I say that, you drunken retard?

WE FUCKING REBUILT JAPAN AND DIDN'T TAKE IT OVER.

DRESDEN WAS GIVING WORSE YOU FAGGOT.

I guess we can thank all those liberal college professors for lying to students and claiming dropping an a bomb against an enemy that refused to submit is a war crime

pony is fine too

No worries mate, operations like the bombing of Dresden were war crimes and a complete mess. I'm ashamed the government still hasn't apologised for it.

What about Tokyo?

Japs deserved to be slapped.

Fascist propaganda, of course.

Dresden was a town. There was no military functions in the city.


I'm sorry we won the war and saved the planet you faggot

We warned them. We warned the government and the cities. They refused to surrender. We drop one bomb.They still don't surrender even though the government knows we can obliterate them. We drop another. They finally surrender and even then there was nearly a coup to keep the war going. The death of the Japanese in those bombings are on their heads, they did not care about their own people. They openly declared they were arming civilians to use as part of the war effort, after using literal suicide attacks. The civilians were being turned into weapons, so they stopped being civilians. Everything that happened to Japan is its own damn fault

man if u want remember our crime ask about katyn
crime is crime everytime no exeptions

Nagasaki I agree. But Hiroshima was a necessity. Without this nuke, US would have had to invade Japan, and well, the Japs were so fanatised they would probably have thrown their entire people under the Sherman's wheels... Consider Hiroshima as the lesser of two evils. Or cry more like an underage teenage rwho doesnt undersand how humanity works.

Here's the problem, OP. The Japanese ethos was warped forever by the atomic bomb attacks during WWII. Millions of Japanese men, women, and children were forced to come to terms with the idea of an overwhelmingly powerful entity outside of their control that could wipe them out of existence without warning using unspeakable weapons. They did this, for the most part, by exploring the idea in fiction.
Godzilla is one example. Anime is another.
If the United States of America were to deploy nuclear weaponry against Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and France, chances are the same thing would happen again:
More Godzillas, and more anime.
Do you think the world can really handle six animes? In the 1980's, United States President Ronald Reagan developed an idea known as "Mutually-Assured Destruction" (MAD). This philosophy stated that war with Russia would not happen, because there was no way to wage it without both countries being destroyed. I see this same situation today. We cannot nuke more countries for fear of mutually assured destruction because they create more anime.
Thank you for your time.

The whole problem with this situation is not whether it was a war crime or not. The problem is that there is no fucking reason to make rules if you aren't going to play by the rules. It doesn't really make much sense to me to have rules in war like it's some game, but whatever. If you make up rules, you should at the very least play by them.

Stop being such a cuck. This is hoe you put mad dogs in their fucking place. Go protest at a UKIP conference you soft wanker.

japan could have surrendered sooner.

>you're now realizing less people died in 9/11 than children were groomed raped in Rotterdam and other sex gangs

Yeah same, the government can always pull the 'they wuz nazis nd sheit' card which to most people means we don't have to apologise, but it's the least we can do.

Who the fuck is going to charge the United States with a war crime?

Nah, those polish officers were already dead.

War crimes don't exist.

Lol fucking Igor.

Dresden: hundred thousands of civilians dead while the city had litteraly no strategic value and wasnt even defended, just civilians fleeing the frontlines.

Lorient: entire city reduced to ashes, while the submarine base remained (and still remains)intact. Thousands of civilian casualties
US bombs killed more french civilians than the Wehrmacht. But we got liberated. That's modern war.

Actually Obama has some serious balls not to apologize. I'm surprised about that.

As for why we get away with? It's because we won. And we had just shown the world that we had fucking nukes. Who was going to question us? And on top of that, the allied nations mostly thought the japs had it coming by that point.

And now? As nationalistic and prideful as Japan is, they really aren't the kind to bitch and moan over something that happened before their lifetime. They aren't people demanding reparations for slavery. Despite their family based religion, Japs look to the future now.

Honestly, war is evil. But sometimes it is a necessary evil. The same was with the nukes. Japan's military may have been beaten, but their civilian population never would have stopped fighting. Their honor demanded they throw away their lives for the honor of Japan. But when the enemy has a weapon so powerful that he can vaporize your families without you even being able to touch him? That was probably the only way to get the Japanese to submit.

They submitted to us, and it worked out well because they saw that we would, in time, give their their honor and pride back. We didn't simply subjugate them. We may own them, but their culture is still fiercely independent and they are a very successful nation.

I guess what I'm saying is, you couldn't ask for better results.

It was more humane than what a mainland occupation would have been like.
You wanna talk about war crimes, a conventional invasion would have been infinitely more brutal.
Also the effects of what would happen were not well understood. They only had enough fissionable materiel to make the trinity test, and the two bombs.

>considering the opinions of Nigel and Ahmed
We've all made a horrible mistake

tokyo was burned in 2 hours with conventional
u have only 3 atomic bombs, 1 bomb destroy 1 town => shiiiiiit
now they all dead

Watch "Fog Of War," user. It's a documentary about Robert McNamara and his time in government, from the Army to the State department.

We don't apologize to the Japanese because we didn't do anything wrong.

I think it was dope as fuck how the allies didn't even need to drop the greatest weapon ever conceived by mankind but we STILL DID IT. rad as fuck. Like t-bagging in Battlefield 4 after a sick double knife. The Japs were begging to surrender but couldn't get the communique out

Why would he apologize if he din du nuthin

>The problem is that there is no fucking reason to make rules if you aren't going to play by the rules

They say that humanitarian law is always one war behind the current juncture. The fact that rules aren't perfectly enforced does not mean they have no effect.

The UN :^)

Nobody but the odd Manhattenite or slack-jawed idiot cries about 9/11, Pedro.

>I'm surprised about that.

Has the U.S. ever apologized? Don't think so.

I agree. Most of Japan cities would have been obliterated (made of woods), and the country was already overcrowded. It would have been a series of Stalingrads all along.

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I bet they're more insulted from having their porn taken away. That's just going balls first in a fight, u dun do dat.

Hundreds of thousands or millions in the planned invasion

it literally wasn't a war crime when it happened

Dresden was a tactical bombing. They wanted to help the Soviets using bombing raids and decided that if they bomb cities like Dresden then the Germans would be confused, believing that they'd be attacked in the west.

>Stalingrads
absolute nighmare battle millions deads

Are you kidding? Mainstream American culture is liberal now. All you see on TV in America is evil America is. Liberals think you constantly have to apologize for existing. You get a pass if you're a minority though. And if you're a woman, you can get a pass by claiming to be a victim.

NY got what was coming to them.
Don't you have a wall payment to make?

>All you see on TV in America
muh ebil russia muh putin dictator

Check out WHITE LIGHT BLACK RAIN. Excellent documentary.

Jesus OP stop making this thread every other week, it's word for word the same as all the others. Are you also behind the constant reposting of Sean King's rocket/white-phallus comparison image too? I hope you choke on your tea.

>tactical bombing

This is objectively wrong. You don't do tactical bombing with 1,200 heavy bombers you fucking idiot. By definition that is strategic bombing.

Saged

Only because Russia is the only white country more right wing than we are.

that thumbnail. that image.

wtf

I think that's the problem with us. We are too soft. Why native americans don't cry about muh genocide? Because they are all dead. Why Poles and others talk shit about Russia? Because they are all alive.

I have no idea.

>Only because Russia is the only white country more right wing than we are.

yea except for literally every arab country

I think it actually could have been worse than Stalingrad.
And that's saying something because I believe Stalingrad to be the most horrific battle/time/place in human history.
But that propaganda machine rolling, those gooks would have had to take 30 30.06 rounds to drop before they'd even think about letting the American take their home islands. And then there's the civilian resistance, I don't doubt for a second that we would have seen the most suicides at one place ever. They government told them all sorts of horror stories about what we do to them. One third would kill themselves in suicide attacks, one third would do it for honor purposes, and the rest would do it out of fear, like the Germans waiting for the the Soviet offense.
It would have been hell on earth. One of the most fanatical nation states ever, fight for their eternal home islands? 10 nukes would have been a mercy compared to what that would have been, on both sides.

Mate, Dresden is in East Germany... The only reason was that the Allies thought the Wehrmacht was about to move more units on the easter front, and that Dresden would be crowded with german troops. But they didnt check. There were 0 german soldiers inside or around the city when the bombers shat their fury over Dresden. Its literally a bombing run at random, without any real strategic purpose, just good old bloodthirst.

This wasn't some pussy ass modern engagement. It was a life or death struggle for both Japan and the United States. If the Japanese had captured Hawaii and threatened the west coast our nation and the western world would have been irreparably crippled.

We had to do it. We showed tremendous restaint by doing it only twice.

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Ah yes. I'd love to see the United Nations gather in New York. Who knows, there might be another "Terrorist Attack"

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problem in europe is too much left and if u have another normal opinion they start blame u NAZI HITLER FACHIST
i totally can't understand it we last age eat left propaganda and not so crazy

You're a fucking idiot. Liberals LOVE Muslim countries despite them being contrary to every they claim to believe.

Liberals exclusively portray all Muslim nations as nothing but peaceful victims and the U.S. as the evil monster.

>You don't spend 90 hours a weak on a bolivian mosaic forum

OP is a cuck. You have a naive and uninformed perspective if you think bombing civilian targets was not common in WW2. The a bombs saved lives on all sides. UHHH MUH WARCRIMES

No. You're just a newfag.

this thread again?
whats it been? five seconds?
you realize the firebombing of tokyo was WAAAAY more destructive and fatal right?
but no because thats not the naritive of the media, is it?

>tfw no jap posters ITT

Listen Russia, I'm rootin' for Putin. He may be an asshole, but I think he's doing well for Russia. As long as he doesn't try to start a new Soviet Union, I think he's more reasonable than any of the leaders in the West right now.

You must be an ignorant paki because the Japs deserved it and more.

>he still believes the "nukes saved lives" meme

The peace negotiations were already going and the fighting had stopped. Japan wanted to surrender but keep the emperer while US wanted unconditional surrender. Meanwhile soviets started moving. US got scared that soviets might get japan clay, so they threw the bombs, forced japan into unconditional surrender and the bombs showed the soviets "fuck off our clay".

In the end, the emperor stayed though kek.

Many more killed at Dresden. Why is nuclear so spooky?

Get over it weeb.