Undrafted rookie free agent

>undrafted rookie free agent
>ends up being one of the best cornerbacks today
How does Bill do it?

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>Spend most of your cap and picks on defense
>Sign an udfa or two and turn them all pro
>Give brady whatever`s left and throw a prayer for Gronk`s health
>Win

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bbc genetics

Bill is genetically part raccoon. Going to be one hell of a scandal when that story breaks.

There's literally nothing on the rules saying your coach can't be a raccoon.

Raccoons, walruses..what's next, a fucking horse?

bill doesn't do dumb shit like 31 other gm/coaches in the league

40 times don't matter
skin color who gives a shit
height meh

values intelligence, toughness and work ethic.

who would have thought that'd make a good team. a bunch of tough smart, crazy in shape team made mainly of white guys. THis isn't basketball. It's not a bunch of tall dudes throwing a ball at a horizontal ring.

So so wrong if you think bill doesn't look and drool over measurable. Chris hogan is a measurables freak for example, 99th percentile spark-x score, 4.5 40 time at 6'1 220lbs. But not a huge college producer (only played one year at a meme school). He sees what others cannot, which is molding these above average measurable guys who have not produced into football players

>values intelligence, toughness and work ethic

>signed Randy Moss
>signed Vince Wilfork
wew lad

randy and Vince were both tough as fuck and pretty hard workers. randy gets a bum rap cause he couldn't not act like a nigger

>Collins and Jones traded
>Make SB anyway

He's getting away with things again.

>intelligence

>Mexican Intellectual.

>monmouth is a meme school
oh shut the fuck up

>a murderer isn't intelligent

nigger please

There is an extent to that though...

You're right, but the difference between Bill is that after 1 year is the measurables don't do it the Patriots way they don't play...

People think BB doesn't value flat out speed and athleticism, he knows someone like Julio Jones can simply do stuff a lesser athlete can't...

Gronk is an example of letting him do whatever he wants as long as he produces and does it the Patriot way and being a physical 99th percentile freak who's measurables aren't rivaled in the league.

>THis isn't basketball. It's not a bunch of tall dudes throwing a ball at a horizontal ring.

Lmao you're full of shit. In basketball is the same shit. If you draft based on physical attributes alone your team will suck and won't win shit. If you draft based on stuff you mentioned Bill does you will win championships ala Spurs.

I mean he did get away with Murder for quite awhile. I would say that's pretty smart.

He's actually been pretty terrible at drafting CBs in general. Managed to land a flyer though here.

He turned the Browns into a winning team so I'm pretty sure he isn't human.

>not seeing moss and wilfork as based

shame fampai

tell me you don't see those three attributes from big vince here

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In a way, Belichick is like Al Davis.
Davis took all the talented addicts, steroid freaks, guys who were in bar fights weekly, alcoholics, and locker room cancer from around the NFL. As long as the guys didn't make trouble with the Raiders, he didn't care if they were human garbage. That is where the "Just win, baby" comment came from and why Raiders have been the bad boy team since 1970.

BB does similar things, except with a tighter leash on behavior.

Why? You get very good players free, a big competitive advantage over prissy teams. Look at Floyd: 1st rounder, great red zone receiver, alcoholic. BB has him living in Patriot's Place, and he goes to the stadium and home, hasn't even been to Boston. If he does what he is told, he joins a Super Bowl team permanently. If he fucks up, he gets cut.

He is the true GOAT of the game

Chris Harris is also undrafted and is also better than Memecolm Butler

Uh, the Browns went to the AFC title game 3 times in the 80s, they were one of the best organizations in the NFL when Belichick went there. Then after he was gone they won the Super Bowl as the Ravens.

Don't meme about shit you don't know.

>Then after he was gone they won the Super Bowl as the Ravens.
you skipped a few years there, bruv

>getting caught
>intelligent

nigger please

his scouting director has been by his side all this time

now he left to Detroit and so far the draft class this year has been subpar

im worried

come on now. weis leaving, crennel leaving - that was the end of the patriots.
mcdaniels leaving? that was the end of the patriots
pioli, dimitroff, quinn. all gone from the front office. Pats in the Super Bowl again!

Belichick, Brady, Caserio, Adams. All they need.

>so far the draft class this year has been subpar
seriously? Thuney, Mitchell, Brissett, Jonathan Jones, Valentine, Roberts,

actually well informed post. But bill saw saw hogans last season with the bills. His nickname was 7 elven cause he was always open
Randy moss was a work out junkie. Him and cris carter started a sports medicine clinic with each others for fucks sake. Randy moss after year 3 worked his ass off, plus randy moss was a tough SOB and he had a crazy high football IQ

Vince is a smart dude, a tough guy and does actually work his ass off in the weight room.
football intelligence. come on.
Yes because we have a lot of 5'10 players in the nba.

Basketball is a you must be this tall to ride this ride sport. Then if you are tall enough and you work hard you might have a shot. The nfl is more of if you can build your body up you can play at basically any height.

Average NBA player 6'7
Average NFL player 6'1

>Mitchell
its telling when there is only one standout

>Basketball is a you must be this tall to ride this ride sport. Then if you are tall enough and you work hard you might have a shot. The nfl is more of if you can build your body up you can play at basically any height.

Yeah no shit. I'm not arguing that you don't have to be tall in basketball, obviously that's a prerequisite except for a few players, I'm arguing drafting by physical attributes vs work ethic personality etc. there's a lot of stupid GMs in the NBA who draft players that can jump high and dunk like crazy but end up being shit. Then you have your unathletic guys (who are still tall because it's the NBA) that play the game right and end up contributing to a championship

And it's very low risk. If the guy doesn't pan out, you didn't pay him much anyway so what does it matter?

what it tells is that you have no idea what you're talking about.

and that you're a Lions fan.

>quinn. gone from the front office. Pats in the Super Bowl again!
its only been a year , the pieces are obviously going to still be there

No one thought the pats were done when crennel left , that is a flat out lie

mcdaniels is not going anywhere

pioli and dimitroff weren't special

quinn has been there since 2000 , he has helped get players that ended up becoming special key pieces to the pats over the years including gronk

I'm stating facts you're just too dumb to look at them and think your own way

thats fine

18 of the 50 man roster (not including gost, allen, cardona) are new to the roster since Quinn left.

The idea that Bob Quinn was the secret to the Pats success is hilarious.

>No one thought the pats were done when crennel left , that is a flat out lie
Yes they did. He and Weis left at the same time and that was absolutely the prevailing wisdom.

>pioli and dimitroff weren't special
They have their team in the Super Bowl.

>The idea that Bob Quinn was the secret to the Pats success is hilarious.
no one is saying that but it is obvious he was important to their runs because the players he scouted were playmakers

I mean look at van noy , the guy has been nothing but stellar this season and he was traded from detroit where he was subpar

dimi was GM for 8 years and in those 8 years the falcons were either mediocre or competing then fell off

Dan quinn speaks volumes to that lockerroom more than dimitroff and pioli ever did

Nothing is wrong with it, its a smart tactic.
IMHO, it is a partial explanation how BB has kept the Pats at the top. beating league parity for so long.

butler plays nice

and they get a comp draft pick if he leaves

3rd round iirc

>le bump dead reddit cheatriots thread XDDDDD

>implying he wasn't an intelligent reciever

and how did Bill know Revis would turn to shit?

Bill's record of drafting cornerbacks is atrocious he just got lucky with Butler

He actually did transport guns and drugs across state lines in college at UF under Urban Meyer's watch. So he must've been pretty smart, vanity was his downfall.

Belichick is quoted as calling Randy the smartest player he ever coached you dumb faggot.

lool

>skin color who gives a shit
>values intelligence

does not compute

Honestly, I think he's the most objective person in the league.

Don't let his accent and antics fool you. Moss is much smarter than you would expect.

Denver has a horse for a GM

Hows the lion hunt going Swahili?

Don't forget Scar. They won without him, sure, but the o-line has really stepped up with Scar's return.

>Le epic "we're too good to need to pay for a professional level QB" man xD

How will he do against Julio?

Belichick went through a huge stretch of drafting bums like Wheatley, Butler, that kid from Ohio not Ohio State... seriously look at his record of first and second round defensive backs. Sad!

Wrong.

He's good at developing talent.

Butler was also mentored by Revis for the year he was with the Patriots and really learned how break down film in part because of how good Revis apparently is at it.

this

bill trades down for a lot of reasons but one reason is that he probably knows he's not the best at drafting so he needs to have as many picks as possible to make up for that

bill the coach > bill the GM

top tier 3

> bill the coach > bill the GM

No one will ever argue that. What I can't stand is when people say Bill is a bad GM. You cannot have prolonged success like the Patriots and have a bad GM. Bill may not be a great GM but he's still pretty good. His strengths are in managing the salary cap and picking up free agents.

This

In 1937 a dog named Lewis coached a game for the Green Bay Packers, they lost 13-11

He's an above-average GM, but definitely nowhere near the top. His real strength is grabbing old FAs and making them productive again.

Makes you wonder what he would have done if he had a true top-tier guy acquiring players.

3d chess bitch ass nfl

if you dont buy in to bill's vision for the team he will cut you loose no matter who you are

most coaches dont have the balls or job security to do that

that's why he can roll the dice on moss or other locker room pariahs and not have it implode or cut losses early when it's going south.

Jamie Collins lmao