>implying lying is a dis qualifier in politics O I'm laffin
Jace Martin
>When did you realize that being anti-Trump was being a retard?
stop your crying OP. You're a big girl now.
Jayden Morales
I actually believe Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Their president is clumsy asf
Anthony Bennett
>Trump is President >Republicans control everything >Democrats falling apart with no platform but anti-Trump >I'm crying Nah just pointing out how stupid and ill informed anti-Trump folks are
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Jeremiah Gutierrez
I make fun of Trump regarding all of those points but for none of the reasons you gave. Trump's record is tarnished by his bankruptcies because of the reason they happened, not because of how often. Trump has tried to bully Mexico into a deal regarding the wall and sofar its only backfired. There are many factors that contribute to violence and I would never be so naive as to think poverty is the only that matters. Also, who thinks Trump was behind the voter fraud? At most Democrats think he's a Russian puppet.
Nobody cares about the US. They're killing eachother anyways so that country is not going to last
Chase White
Information is not what separates Trump supporters from Trump haters. Instead, it's the values and the narrative within our cultures that separate us - a narrative only growing more extreme on both sides, as the media we consume rarely shows anything else.
Luis Bennett
>because of the reason they happened, not because of how often He invested in a bad city, his track record is still impeccable. "How can a casino go out of business people literally give you money!" tier retards
>Trump has tried to bully Mexico into a deal regarding the wall and sofar its only backfired Mexico has zero say in the funding of the wall. What will Mexico do when we decide to tax remittance? Or charge more for border crossings? Sure we can use the wall as a bargaining chip but Mexico has no say over how it's getting paid for
>There are many factors that contribute to violence Mostly skin color
>Also, who thinks Trump was behind the voter fraud? They make fun of his claims of massive voter fraud in states like California that would have otherwise given him the popular vote. California voter registration did not require an address or social security number and in an election so high-risk for illegals I have no doubt they voted in droves. Compound this with California's refusal to provide voter data and I think he's on to something.
>At most Democrats think he's a Russian puppet. That's a pretty big claim for Democrats with zero evidence to back it up. This would be like the entire Republican party running on the birther movement
I would say it's a combination of all, allowing yourself to fall in to a narrative leads to a lack of information as you feel no need to challenge the agreeable media you see or your social circle drives on to you
Adrian Myers
Retardation demonstration.
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Jason Walker
I'm going to ignore the bankruptcy point b/c I'm not well enough informed to effectively communicate my opinion without digging up old sources.
>What will Mexico do when we decide to tax remittance? Or charge more for border crossings? Well, they could tax us more, since we use them for labor and the production of goods. Or, they could just do nothing about it since the citizens would be paying, not the government, and they're perfectly capable of getting here illegally.
>Mostly skin color Ever been to Africa? I have, and that changed my mind. I think skin color is even less relevant than poverty. Instead, it's the cultural values, combined with economic standing, that play the largest role. There is evidence to say that blacks are more likely to be violent as a result of their genes, but that same evidence also says those violent tendencies are triggered by the environment - ie economic standing. Such is the field of epigenetics.
>They make fun of his claims of massive voter fraud in states like California that would have otherwise given him the popular vote I live in L.A. and go to UCLA, and literally no.
>That's a pretty big claim for Democrats with zero evidence to back it up I agree whole heartily.
>I would say it's a combination of all Please don't think I'm trying to give a cut and dry explanation, my phrasing was for emphasis. Information plays an important role, just not the defining one.
Angel Smith
low quality shill post 1/10 made me reply
Lincoln Campbell
>Well, they could tax us more, since we use them for labor and the production of goods. That's part of the renegotiation efforts anyway. They tax us, they lose business.
>and they're perfectly capable of getting here illegally. I'm sorry did you forget we're discussing payment of the border wall? And that we have a President who is interested in enforcing immigration laws?
> but that same evidence also says those violent tendencies are triggered by the environment - ie economic standing So you did nothing but add words to the 'its cuz they poor' argument.
>I live in L.A. and go to UCLA, and literally no. >My anecdotes
Dominic Parker
Dude, the fact that you attend UCLA if anything means that you don't have your finger on the pulse of the voting population. Now more than ever, universities are highly isolated from reality. Just look at the election to realize that. If you believed what was coming off the campuses, Bernie was going to sweep the election, then once Hil pushed him out of the way, the attitude was that she was a lock.
Austin Kelly
>That's part of the renegotiation efforts anyway. They tax us, they lose business. So you think we can just blackmail them into paying for the wall? The majority of their money comes from an industry that relies on the wall not being built (drug cartels), and they're not afraid of violence. Those are the people who should pay for the wall, not the Mexican people, or their government. I don't disagree with Mexico for seeing things that way, and I can't see blackmail going well as a result.
>I'm sorry did you forget we're discussing payment of the border wall? Over half of our undocumented residents here in California arrived via plane. I'm not sure what a wall is going to do about them. I mean, they paid money to get here sure, but then they just didn't leave.
>So you did nothing but add words to the 'its cuz they poor' argument. No, I explained the nuance that most people miss. Yes genes can cause violence, but only if those genes are triggered. This is why poverty plays a bigger role in creating violence than genes. Even more important than both of these causes though, are the cultures one identifies with. These are passed down much like genes, so I can see how they might be mixed up as well.
Jace Lewis
Great Again!
Owen Perry
I'm a new student here, and I'm 26. I'm young, and there are many things I don't know, but I've talked to a hell of a lot of voters about voting issues. My finger may not be on the pulse, but I'm certainty a relevant source of information.
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Brayden Sanders
About 1 week after he was elected and he started firin' his executive lasers. Gave niggers and women a bunch of grant money to get the ejumuhcashon and they still bitch.
Jordan Sanchez
>muh memes mostly fake bullshit with a few loosely accurate points.
kys
Michael Young
>So you think we can just blackmail them into paying for the wall? How is that blackmail? Also like I said, we don't need to get them to pay for the wall because the way we would recoup the costs are beyond their control.
One of the largest revenue streams for Mexico is payments coming back from the US that they skim off the op. We tax remittance higher on our end to discourage money being sent over and to pay for the wall. They have zero recourse.
>but then they just didn't leave. That's where my part about having a President who enforces immigration law comes in. You arrive via plane and overstay? ICE comes to knock on your door and politely take you back. You want to get back but don't have the legal means? Oh fuck now there's a big ol' wall in the way.
>Yes genes can cause violence, but only if those genes are triggered. And black people are more likely to be triggered to violence, we're arguing the same point. It's not because they're poor, they're poor because of it.
>but I'm certainty a relevant source of information. >I can speak for all of California and say there's no mass voter fraud... Because I went to UCLA guise
Jack Moore
>Ever been to Africa?
Ever been to Detroit?
Jose Clark
Holy shit you're so btfo. Point to one false line in that picture
Liam Lee
Nice!
Saved.
Samuel Diaz
>How is that blackmail? I just explained how it could be perceived that way. Look, I get where you're coming from, and I really hope you're right. I just don't see things working out that way.
>It's not because they're poor, they're poor because of it. If this were true you'd see a a correlation between the presence of the "violence gene" and wealth. Specifically, wealthy black people would be less likely to have the gene. This is not the case.
Yeah, almost as bad as the old Irish slums.
Jace Young
>If this were true you'd see a a correlation between the presence of the "violence gene" and wealth. Actually my claim is that violent crime correlates with the number of black people in a nation and that we will continue to have problems with gangs and violence as long as we have a large population of blacks. Culture does play in to it, such as being anything not ghettomonkey is 'acting white'
>Yeah, almost as bad as the old Irish slums. hoohoo really got us there. >looks at crime rates between the two Oh god my point keeps getting reinforced
Grayson Peterson
>Point to one false line in that picture
>Cracking down on ISIS by selling weapons to Saudi Arabia... who is arming/funding ISIS in Yemen. WHOOPS.
Angel Ortiz
>stretching it that far Alright c'mon sweetie you can find something better than that. The entire list is mostly false right
Jack Evans
Correlation is not causation, unless you do a time study. The non existent inverse correlation I mentioned does, as a result, indicate that there is no causal relationship between not having the gene and being wealthy. The correlation you just provided is not only unable to provide a causal link, its full of hidden variables. It's simply not a strong claim.
>looks at crime rates between the two May I see where you got the crime rates of Irish slums in the 19th century?
Aaron Myers
>deflecting this hard
Easton Powell
You mean like Hillary while she was SoS?
Jeremiah Allen
I'll just let this series of statistics speak for itself and people can draw their own conclusions. I will simply point to practically the entirety of Africa as an example of a genetic group generally incompatible with western ideas of civilization
>May I see where you got the crime rates of Irish slums in the 19th century? Gangs of New York
Luke Gonzalez
>being this unable to find a single thing factually wrong with that long list of Trump's accomplishments in the first 6 months Feels good to vote for the right side of history and not being a bleeting sheep
Parker Wilson
>Trump is doing the same thing as Hillary, so what? >HILLARY IS LITERALLY HITLER! Nice logic my dude.
Jaxon Jackson
I think we're all aware of those statistics, the debate was about their cause. I pointed by finger at culture and poverty, you at genetics. Are you backing away from your claim? I would if I were you, since my explanation fits with all of the statistics you just provided.
Robert Ramirez
The only legitimate reason to vote for this man is to have him throw grenades. If you don't want to watch the world burn and you voted for him you are either delusional or an idiot or both
Parker Fisher
Without "legal" immigrants :)
Cameron Garcia
>I was completely passive about all of this shit the last 8 years >OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO BE THE END OF THE REPUBLIC The trick to remember is that we don't actually care about their opinions at that point because we know it's not worth anything. It's us making fun of them
>you at genetics. Are you backing away from your claim? >an example of a genetic group generally incompatible with western ideas of civilization Holy shit do they make all you UCLA kids this lacking in critical thinking?
At first I was going to vote for him for the grenades and disruption aspect, but after actually hearing him and his ideas I found I agreed with what he was saying and found him to be a breath of fresh air in a stale government
Joshua Gomez
Reporting you to the FbI friend
Ryan Martinez
kek
Aiden Perry
>t. I have no argument cool story breh
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Have a fun 7 1/2 years friend
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Matthew Bell
Again, correlation is not causation. There is no evidence in those statistics that genetics were the primary cause, and in fact there is more evidence to the contrary.
And so you know, I was never taught critical thinking here. I'm sure they teach it, but I attended another school when I was fulfilling GE reqs. Here I just learn Math, CS, and Linguistics.
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Hunter Sullivan
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a threat looks like.
What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.
If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.
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Dominic Butler
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a threat looks like.
What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.
If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.
Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?
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Christian Gomez
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.
What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.
If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.
Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?
Connor Roberts
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Jason Wilson
And just so the ill informed aren't clear, this is literally what an attempt to slide a thread looks like.
What happened here was an exchange that went against the narrative and showed Trump in a positive light. This literally gets brigaded by paid shills until the thread is dead.
If you are anti-Trump you are playing in to this narrative. You are effectively being brainwashed and if these sentences bring up some visceral rage in you that's proof that you're deep in it.
Shareblue and Media Matters pay hundreds of millions of dollars to support this. Who profits?
