So, new song from an upcoming EP called "Add Violence", apparently the second EP is a set of three following " Not The Actual Events"
>actually catchy >clearly reminiscent of With Teeth >directly shit talks the alt-right internet/video games shut in generation both in the video and in the lyrics
Reznor shit talked every administration since he got sober and realized politics existed though.
Evan Davis
>implying it isn't nu/pol/ kiddies that set up shop here throwing a fit about any left leaning politics.
Kevin Powell
With Obama it was more along the lines of "i believed in you and you didn't do jack shit", compared to flat out shit talking like he did with G.W.
With Trump what he's doing here is directly attacking the demographic that elected him, instead of Trump himself.
Joseph Williams
He said Obama did more to make Year Zero a reality then Bush ever did.
Gavin Cooper
I PUSHED THE BUTTON AND ELECTED HIM TO OFFICE, AND HE PUSHED THE BUTTON AND HE DROPPED THE BOMB YOU PUSHED THE BUTTON AND COULD WATCH IT ON THE TELEVISION THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS DIDN'T LAST TOO LONG
Isaac Perez
That might be true, but it's not what he had in mind when he made YZ, it's essentially an observation he made afterwards, i'm strictly talking on the opinions he expressed when making the tracks themselves at the time they were made.
The only post-Obama song he made that directly critiques Obama himself and his performance in the office is "Disappointed" from HM.
Bentley Kelly
>video games shut in generation
TR's a huge vidya nerd himself, the video is just an attempt to ride the (thankfully) dying 80's synthpop faggotry
Kayden Gutierrez
>TR's a huge vidya nerd himself You don't get it. It's not about video games themselves.
Cooper Rivera
this is what liberals actually believe
Christopher Cooper
i dont like shoulda-voted-hillary-trent. i much prefer satans-in-my-head-trent.
John Hall
It's just not a very good song. I'm a huge Trent/NIN fan but there's nothing interesting or new in NIN anymore. This is a tarted up version of Copy of A with heavier guitars. It's so obviously a standard issue "let's get a single out there to drum up some interest for a tour where we'll make out real money". There hasn't been anything musically interesting since The Slip.
Kayden Cooper
>he fell asleep before ntae
Andrew Perez
>There hasn't been anything musically interesting since The Slip. >The Slip Hesitation Marks and NTAE and fuck it, this new single all are more interesting than The Slip
Jonathan Sullivan
"She's Gone Away" was a little too much on the nose, I admit.
Asher Anderson
>It's just not a very good song. I'm a huge Trent/NIN fan
If i had a nickel for every time i've read this shit i'd be rich. It's been going on since With Teeth and i'm sure there were already people saying this shit since TDS being purists about PHM back in the day. The world is full of "i'm a NIN fan but i only like X thing from NIN", it's such a stereotype by now.
Cameron Williams
I love Nice is Neat!
Grayson Diaz
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Eli Brooks
This "I am a huge Trent fan for this much years" means shit, it's like they think their argument someohow has more credibility and is more true.
Aiden Bell
6 more days!
Noah Torres
why are nin fans such fags
Jacob Brown
>Still >5 C'mon man, Leaving Hope, And All That Could Have Been are some of the best NIN songs, Something I Can Never Have is much better than PHM version. I always loved Still
Luke Powell
>still >i'll do better next time
I'll
Fucking
Murder
You
Tyler Cruz
spiral, fragile, and still are great. but this new single sucks. sorry, but i dont want to listen to political commentary from someone who literally tried to kill himself, and musically it sounds like more candy laptop bullshit.
Levi Morales
THIS IS A TRENT REZNOR SONG
Nathaniel Martinez
nine inch nails > the nine inch nails
Jaxon Diaz
woah there fuck off
Elijah Jackson
SAY THAT TO MY FACE NOT ONLINE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
Austin Adams
FUCKING PLEB PIECE OF SHIT NINE INCH NAILS IS SHIT, THE NINE INCH NAILS BEATS IT UP
Eli Diaz
...
Wyatt Brooks
...
Evan Allen
ARE YOU LESS THAN?
Justin Reyes
>but i dont want to listen to political commentary from someone who literally tried to kill himself
Isn't that Sup Forums as a whole tho?
Colton Campbell
This is the most reddit thing I've ever seen.
Oliver Roberts
Trent was making political commentatory ever since Head Like A Hole came out, haha
Tyler Green
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Nathaniel Turner
You're welcome.
David Clark
i always figured that song was about record companies. but whatever it is, i never much liked it anyway, the chorus is too anthemy. and it feels insinscere when i see 80$ records in the nin.com store.
Noah Sullivan
Head Like A Hole is againts greed. Broken was about a record company, entirety of it really.
Carter Wilson
holy fucking shit you're stupid
David Kelly
Listen to the zane lowe interview from release day faggot.
Dylan Taylor
good. it's about time an actual man called them out. I'm getting sick of the whole "nu-male vs. alt-right nu male" thing
Oliver Hernandez
>PHM 8 >Broken 9 >Still 5 FUCK OFF
Brody Johnson
i couldnt finish the video it was so cringey, and also that album cover is so fuckin ridiculous. more like amplify cringe LMAO
Jace Flores
>I keep up with music I don't like hello neet
Robert Morris
>LMAO cringe
Cooper Thomas
LMSHO exactly
William Bennett
3/10
Ian Kelly
AMPLIFY CHAOS
ADVANCED SELF AWARENESS
ANXIETY
ADD VIOLENCE
Josiah Johnson
Overall i like the track, if i had to move some criticism is that it's too much on the nose on certain things.
>Shut up
Reference to the same line in "Down In It", contained in PHM.
>Welcome oblivion
Directly referencing the HTDA album by the same name.
>Now look what you've gone and done
Reference to the same line in "Copy Of A" from HM.
Trent will sometimes reference his other works in his songs and/or put recurring lyrics in many of his songs ("nothing can stop me now" being the most common and overused line he was obsessed with for years), but the references in this song are REALLY heavy handed, they're so blatant they end up feeling really clumsy.
Wyatt Reyes
You're obviously baiting but the cover is indeed cringy. If this shit was on the front of some Nu-Metal band's record this board would've already turned it into a meme.
Luke Brooks
there's autistic reznor fanboys on pretty much every forum on the internet. i love nin and most of his albums but the hero worship and borderline waifu faggotry from some of his fans is pretty embarassing
Christian Reyes
is it the actual cover for the ep or just the single?
Joshua Morgan
Probably the entire EP, due to the fact that pre-ordering the EP is greeted by this same cover.
I think it's okay cover.
Michael Ramirez
It's the cover of the vinyl. The EP itself has this as it's digital cover. Also comes with a "physical component", whatever the fuck that means.
Luke Brown
Reznor is better than most of waifus t b h
Aaron Hughes
This guy gets it.
Jordan Martin
EP.
I mean, it's not "cringey", it's just a bit cheesy. Just a representation of "mechanisms of anxiety" or something like that.
James Ward
I'm not getting that this is all about Trump. I think it's the whole political climate. "Offend, pretend... demand my compliance". Obviously about triggered SJW snowflakes.
It's also about the increasing demand for tech fucking up humanity. Like, where the fuck is it going to all end?
In "did it fix what was wrong with you? are you less than?" He's saying "We got all of this tech and shit that we thought would improve humanity, but look at us. We're less than we could be.
Kevin Foster
I’ve never listened to Nine Inch Nails. They were the Animorphs’ favorite band.
Juan Rogers
>it's about time an actual man called them out.
>Trent Reznor >an actual man
Lmao. Reznor's entire motivation for his music career is still that one time girls laughed at him in junior high.
James Moore
I think I'm gay
Ian Sanchez
And look at him now. He can fuck whoever he wants.
Ian Richardson
>I'm not getting that this is all about Trump.
C'mon man, let's get real here.
>So what are you waiting for? >You got what you asked for >Did it fix what was wrong with you?
>Needful >Too many fucking people
The person in the video is a video game addicted shut in that lives off technology and is completely withdrawn from society. Trent is not singing about neets, or that video games are bad, Trent has been an important part of video game history himself, musically, and understands tecnhology, his presence online was pretty strong ever since the earliest days.
Trent here is SPECIFICALLY singing about the alt-right generation. Completely soaked in nihilism, cynism, dank memes and hiding behind multiple layers of irony and alienation to mask their insecurities and the fact that they're fundamentally broken human beings. Using video games, anime and other forms of media as escapism from a reality they deem as degenerate.
>You got what you asked for >Did it fix what was wrong with you?
>"You got Trump elected" >Are you happy yet? Why do you still feel miserable? Are you actually ignoring what's wrong inside yourself? Are you just running away from what's fundamentally broken inside you as a person?
Jayden Jackson
>girls laughed at him in junior high
Look man, you're on Sup Forums, that's pretty ironic and makes you a complete fucking hypocrite.
Hunter Murphy
>The person in the video is a video game addicted shut in that lives off technology and is completely withdrawn from society.
No man, you are getting this all wrong. This isn't about neets, look up Polybius, the game that is being played by the woman, in short it is a myth, an arcade game apparently set up by the goverment. The game was said to be full of subliminal messages, notice how the music video itself has hidden text in it "I can't seem to wake up". The woman is being controlled by the machine, notice how at the end, her eyes are bleak, she is LITERALLY blind by the mind controlling machine.
Jaxson Moore
You're misunderstanding the Polybius thing. It's just a reference, it's not the main focus of the video/track. Yes, she is being brainwashed because it's Polybius, but it's a metaphor for shut ins losing themselves in video games, it's not meant to be taken literally.
Connor Hill
I did not take in literally, Polybius is a metaphor for something else. I think there is a huge part we are missing, this isn't the entire picture. These EPs are a trilogy, they are forming a narrative. Lses Than seem to be much more a contiunation of "Dear World" from NTAE
Just look at these lyrics
"Focus? We didn't even notice, we awake in a place we can barely recongize, yeah, hypnosis"
To. " Hey look, you didn't even notice You couldn't even tell Just when it started happening Maybe just as well After all, everything is getting unfamiliar now Trajectory in decline And we become obsolete A frame at a time"
It seems like Less Than is from a different perspective of Dear World or something.
Camden Nelson
Well, it's not like the two things can't coexist.
This track can be part of a bigger ongoing narrative that will probably span all three EPs, but at the same time it's also a political track in it's own right. The strong technology themes were also in YZ, and YZ it's NIN most political album, so it still makes sense.
Anthony Harris
Is this the worst NIN cover ever?
Caleb Richardson
You're being a whiny little cunt. Also if we're on the subject, i still consider With Teeth to have the most boring generic cover ever.
Especially if you compare it to the prototype artwork that it had when it was still in production and called "bleedtrough". (some of that artwork has been conceptually reused in the cover of "Not The Actual Events")
Colton Reyes
And yet somehow he has still remained an angsty, emotionally stunted goon.
Get over it.
Jonathan Cooper
>angsty Literally listen to anything from HM.
Jaxson Young
That is true, but I don't think Trent tried to send that specific message, you can make an argument it targets both lefta nd right "Offend and pretend and defend and demand my compliance" sounds too sensetive. I don't think Trent would attack purely one side. Year Zero wasn't purely an attack againts the goverment either, it critized the side that "fought" it as well. Which is why everyone was wiped the fuck out with Zero-Sum because everyone was to be blamed. That is actually, well, how I intepreted the record.
Pic related, no.
Ayden Stewart
Unremastered cover art of Pretty Hate Machine has aged poorly.
Gavin Powell
Ruh-roh, better start liking derivative pop industrial with cock rock vocals and sub Linkin Park-tier lyrics in order to not get lumped with Sup Forums and the alt-right!
Nolan Long
Sup Forums has pretty shitty and memey taste in music desu.
Landon Ross
Damn these buzzwords.
Josiah Martinez
>add a little violence and offend and pretend and defend and demand my compliance. >You have to take care of yourself. You know I've got my hands full. >You got what you asked for. Did it fix what was wrong with you?
notice the you's and the I's. the listener is the one that thinks he/she is broken and blames and attacks the speaker. the speaker is the one that supports and complies, but can't satisfy the listener because the listener is misguided or hypnotized into thinking he/she needs what they need when in reality they are brainwashed.
the listener could be a sjw/snowflake or an alt-right person who have driven compliance of the majority. win or lose the government always manages to keep us unsatisfied. meanwhile its all a distraction so that the people who really pull the strings can wage their wars without that being the central election issue. >Focus. We didn't even notice. >The missile trails across the sky again.
i think the criticism extends to all of the voters and activists of both sides.
Dylan Rodriguez
This, it's attacking both sides, just like Year Zero was. Trent sure as fuck knows about antifa shit and I doubt he is okay with it, or Sup Forums types. Being left or right isn't wrong, none of them are right or wrong, what is wrong is being extremist of that side, they're both harmful and leads to petty arguments, generalizations and unecesarry violence.
Nolan Foster
It's definitely up there with the original Pretty Hate Machine cover, and With Teeth's.
Camden White
Childish in comparison with Spirit
Ayden Nelson
>hey fuck you buildings
i chuckled
Gavin Butler
weird guitar
Oliver Williams
really made me think
Christopher Moore
Why do people think Trent gets pissed at parodies, anyway? Remember that WKUK skit?
Where does he get this reputation of being "sensitive" and having a bad temper? The only people he's consinstently gotten mad at over the years are his own fans, not really his detractors/parody acts.
Thomas Murphy
>Where does he get this reputation of being "sensitive" and having a bad temper?
>Makes angry music >Is bad at keeping his mouth shut, so his anger comes out more than any positive thoughts
Jaxon Peterson
>not really his detractors He said Pitchfork were "still cunts" after giving The Fragile's reissue a much higher score than the gave the original release. Granted, Pitchfork are definitely cunts.
Joseph Young
>Stephanie >not Annie
fucking plebs
dude doesn't act like fucboi-era Trent anyway
Colton Gomez
It was made after Pretty Hate Machine not after Broken or The Downward Spiral
Joshua Williams
>dead Sublime dude joke >before Broken or TDS
Angel Cruz
>dead Sublime dude joke Pretty Hate Machine is his easily most "whiniest" record.
Austin Wilson
Did people really see PHM as angsty and whiny? All i can think about when i hear PHM now is "holy fuck this is catchy as shit".
Head Like a Hole, The Only Time, Terrible Lie, Down in It, Sin, That's What I Get, they're all so fucking catchy. I mean, i guess Trent is a bit whiny lyrically wise in them, but it barely register to me, the music itself is just so catchy. Even proto-PHM tracks such as "Twist" are catchy as fuck.
I definitely prefer Twist to Ringfinger, it's way better in my opinion.
Josiah Scott
>Did people really see PHM as angsty and whiny? Yes, and that's probably my favorite thing about the album. It gets to the point where it's endearing how much Trent sounds like a miserable teenager. >All i can think about when i hear PHM now is "holy fuck this is catchy as shit". Holy shit this. I wish NIN didn't abandon their EBM style after PHM. If every NIN song sounded like Sin, I would have started going to cybergoth raves.
Brody Martinez
>Did people really see PHM as angsty and whiny? >I mean, i guess Trent is a bit whiny lyrically wise in them, but it barely register to me, the music itself is just so catchy.
People who do not care to dwelve deeper into a NIN track only notice the lyrics user, they don't even properly read into lyrics, they just realize that it is Trent speaking againts his own issues and that is enough for people to see it as whiny
I agree with you though, Pretty Hate Machine may be my least favorite NIN record (Worst nin record is still above 7/10 btw) but its catchiness cannot be ignored
Jordan Gomez
>Where does he get this reputation of being "sensitive" and having a bad temper?
Broken, The Downward Spiral, The Fragile and the way he dressed during the 90s.
Brandon Young
what the fuck, the Purest Feeling I "own" has a totally different Twist. it's the first time I actually heard him say those final lines from the booklet, haha. thanks.
Samuel Morris
I know what version you're referring to, it basically just "fades off" or something. This seems to be the full version.
>And the squeaking of the bed is right in time with the song that's repeating in my head >I just want you to know >"When I do it, I only think of you"
What is he talking about anyway? Masturbating? Why the hell is his bed squeaking while he's masturbating? Just how much motion is he putting into it, wtf.
Anyway, absolutely no idea where the fuck this full version is actually from, who knows. NIN is one of the most frustrating bands when it comes to alternate versions of songs. There's dozens of em and they're all over the place.