The GOAT debate is over.
The GOAT debate is over
it was over long time ago
It never was a thing. Laver is #2, by the way.
There was never a debate. But after tonight the trolls have to try even harder to create bait.
It wasn't a debate
He had one more day to recover. Big advantage when it's this close between competition days.
This. Why the hell do they not have them play on the same night?
Nope, it's still Sampras. Frauderer kept winning against literal whos until Nadal and Djokovic came around.
Djokovic and Nadal's era is so shit that a 35 old (who isnt even GOAT apparently) could win a slam?
What's the oldest anyone has competed at an elite level at?
Isn't he from the era of amateurs?
Rosewall made Wimbly final at 39
he did the grand slam as an ammo and as a pro
Djokovic is still better
>Servebaby
>Couldn't get past round 3 on French Open
>GOAT
1. fed
2. rod
3. sampras
4. nadal
(You)
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Even though I hate Nadal and him being a claybabby, he's better than Sampras.
>tournament on a meme surface that's a bitch to take care of and ruins all of your clothes
Playing on clay is so dumb. Why don't we sprinkle some playground gravel or barkmulch on the court and play tennis on that?
Fed
Rafa
Pete
Djok
If Nadal is claybaby then federer won most of his slams in a weak era.
Correct.
Carpet was more a surface than Clay
>nadal wins none of his titles outside a weak era
>can't even beat a 35 year old man
You're cute. You have no idea what you're talking about but it's cute
Fed
Sampras
Rod laver
Agassi
The rest of the baseline scrubs
Fed
Rafa
Rod
Djoko
Pete
this is facts
These. All the others don't know a damn thing about tennis.
This has never been a debate. It's an established fact that Roger is the GOAT. And probably will always be the GOAT.
It's been like this since forever. Better than super saturday, tbqh.
It only looks like a weak era because Federer is so much better than everyone else
*sees flag*
hmmmmmmmmmmm
1. Roger
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Nadal
Sampras was a GOAT all-around player. He wasn't a serve babby. And mud is a pleb surface. Back in the 90s, court differences actually meant something, unlike today. You had specialists for each court. A normal player wasn't expected to win on clay.
>i don't like it so it's a pleb surface
If Sampras was the GOAT he would have adjusted to all surfaces. See: Andre Agassi. End of story.
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Sampras didn't give a shit about clay because it was a meme surface back then. It wasn't considered an equal-tier surface until the media hyped up Nadal.
1. Rog
2. Sampras
3. Djokovic
4. Laver
5. Borg
desu senpai
Based Sweden.
Although Djokovic shouldn't be on the list either.
If you see his interviews talking about it, he clearly gave a shit.
>Nadal beats Fedora over and over
>GOAT debate still up
>Fedora beats Nadal ONCE
>GOAT debate is over
why is Sup Forums so far up Federe's butthole?
18>14
Fuck off mudslime
EVERYONE'S face when Nadal ends his career with 20 Grand slams
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>rating Nadal itt
are you kidding me? Nadal is just a bull on roids literally waiting for the other to make a mistake. I like him, but he's not GOAT.
1. Roger
2. Sampras
3. Djoko
Based Spain actually being objective (and correct).
And I'm from Mallorca (bonus points)
djoko is cooked
fed will knock him over a couple of times this season to get the ledger back in his favour
GOAT
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German detected
He's Finnish actually
No, you are.
Brilliant fucking observation, Rafael.
and three of them were five setters (plus bird shit lmao)
Does Nadal being a lefty and Federer being a righty have any bearing on why so many of their head-to-head matches are GOAT?
I read somewhere that it does, as in times gone by when Federer's cross court backhand was god tier like it was tonight it was played to Nadal's whipping topspin forehand.
Sort of. It's a terrible matchup for Federer. Nadal was specifically designed, like a Frankenstein monster, to defeat Federer.
The offense vs defense gives lots of highlights.
These are not the baby-faced hot shots I remember idolizing and emulating a decade ago. These are hardened, grizzled veterans. Weathered titans. The giants by which all others will be measured. Nadal's clean shaven face and long locks have given way for a gritty stubble and thinning hair. The slender, graceful Federer from yesteryear now has a face with deep lines and shadows that make hiding his age impossible (granted I suppose four children will do that to you). When he furrows his brow you can see a determination and struggle against not just his opponent, but Father Time. Despite these changes, I still feel like that same high schooler I was a decade ago. I'm still seeing the dichotomy between them that made me really love this rivalry and this sport. Masters of their craft. These are the best players of all time, and a level of dominance like this will not exist again in my lifetime. Both fierce competitors with differing styles and personalities, yet still have nothing but respect for each other. They're the antithesis of one another. Righty. Lefty. Calculated. Charismatic. Ice in his veins. Fire in his heart. Subdued. Loud. The matador. And the bull.
nadal is just a fuentes babby
that and the fact Nadal is right handed playing with his left hand, so his backhand is equally powerful
>Nadal is right handed playing with his left hand
>mfw I thought you were fucking around and then I looked it up
He's like right handed people that eat left handed.
nadal is actually a right hander
he was made to play left handed to be federer's kryptonite
OK, Wikipedia says that Nadal is right handed, does everything right handed, but was trained to play tennis lefty because it gave him an advantage.
That's incredible.
Yeah pretty insane which is why him and Fed have GOAT battles.
Federer breaks in 1st set
Federer actually serves out first set
Federer goes up 2 sets to 1
Match goes to a 5th
Federer breaks back in the 5th
Federer breaks to serve out the match
Federer wins match point
Nice, can I save your post?
Pretty good post USAbro
Go for it, I copied and pasted from somewhere else.
My nigga.
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>people ITT comparing Federer to other tennis players
If you really want a debate, compare him with every other athlete
1. Federer
2. Bolt
3. Phelps
4. Comaneci
5. Chamberlain
>Nadal's era
How the fuck is this Nadal's era?
>I rate Federer
>debate
Fed has always been the GOAT
What a qt
Federer is the GOAT sportsman.
Also
>Chamberlain over Jordan
lel
>23-12
After today's match, he cemented his position as GOAT but that's a big stain on his legacy.
>you were alive to see the GOAT finish his career with class and dignity
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No it's not. They played on clay way more times than any other surface, so it's skewed.
Kobes 81 is my all time favorite sports highlight
>back when goaltending didnt exist and wilt dunked shots that were going in
>but muh H2H
if H2H is so important, then Novak is clearly the GOAT, right? He's got positve H2Hs against both Rafa and Roger, including a current 7-0 (7-0!) running streak against Rafa.
1. Roger Federer
2. Björn Borg
3. Mats Wilander
4. Stefan Edberg
5. Sven "Svennen" Svensson
Kobr confirmed better than Lelbron
No, it's about slams and H2H. Weeks at no 1 and Master 1000 titles can be added too.
Then why no other player from his era has those stats
It was over a LOONG time ago.
I feel very happy for Federer, i almost cried on the last point.
There will be no other player like him EVER.
Novak trails Rafa by fewer slams than Rafa trails Roger.
they were manlets
Gay.
>this match bookended the rivalry between Federer and Nadal
>being (most likely) their last match in a slam final, this, along with 2008 Wimbledon, will be the most remembered of their matchups, and it'll be the freshest thing in people's minds for years to come whenever they think of the Nadal-Federer rivalry
>in winning against his biggest rival in such spectacular fashion, Federer has secured his legacy as the GOAT without peer
>this match will be THE argument-ending counterpoint whenever someone brings up Federer's H2H against Nadal
>it doesn't matter what happens with Federer's career past this point, even if he wins 0 slams from now until he retires - this result is all that matters
Best timeline.