Just got yelled at by my family for saying vaccines don't cause autism. I need some good proof that they don't.
Please and thank you
Just got yelled at by my family for saying vaccines don't cause autism. I need some good proof that they don't
Alexander Taylor
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Jayden Jackson
Burden of proof is on them, considering there's literally no evidence for them causing autism.
Nathaniel Roberts
They just said "they've done studies and there's actually something to it"
They arent the type to actually research things. I figured shoving actual rvidence down their throat would solve things.
Jeremiah Garcia
what caused your autism then?
Andrew Stewart
SAVAGE
Brandon Ramirez
Ask them if having Polio or Measels is fun.
Then tell them that vaccines fix that.
Chase Murphy
>they've done studies and there's actually something to it
Tell them to show you those studies.
Kayden Edwards
They just change the topic and walk away acting like theyre right
Kevin Brown
Make sure to point them to the original study done by that one guy who actually fabricated most of hist results and was shunned from the science community because of it.
The one study that basically every anti-vaccine argument originally comes from.
Alternatively, make an appeal to the age of vaccines, dating back to the Polio vaccine, and if vaccines did cause autism, why didn't we see a sky rocket in autism back then?
Also remind them that autism rates may appear to be going up today, but that's actually autism discovery rates, not exactly more people getting autism, just more people being diagnosed because autism is now understood better and also understood to be a spectrum, from high functioning to squealing retard.
Kevin Robinson
Angel Peterson
I told them about the faked study. They said they know somebody who it happened to and they're convinced it's true.
Andrew Martinez
The FDA literally admits it
John Gutierrez
It's irrelevant whether they do or not. Even the most anti-vaccine studies there is show the risk to be minimal compared to the lives saved by vaccines.
Chase Morgan
Then they're retards and not worth arguing with.
Ian Flores
So because the risk is minimal I should take the risk. Nice logic cuck, just like letting those refugees in huh? Risk sure was MINIMAL their and aren't you glad your country took it :^^^^^)
Christopher Ross
Kayden Anderson
Linking SIDS to vaccInes. Jesus Christ, I hope you don't allow fluoride in your water.
Caleb Clark
If you haven't been vaccinated and you didn't get sick, it's because of the umbrella effect, not because you are so smart for not getting vaccinated
Chase Collins
Unless they are trying to stop your kid from getting vaccinated in the middle of a whooping cough outbreak there is absolutely no point in having this debate. Dont get involved in pointless arguments, save your energy
Joshua Allen
the lancer retracted the ONE paper about it an apologized, there is literally NO proof and the only people preaching it are cafe mom blogs.
Kevin Nelson
No, the benefit far outweighs (the disputed) possible side effects. If 1% of all vaccine takers get autism that irrelevant compared to tens of percent of the population that will get diseases that will kill or permanently disable the people who gets them.
Camden Lewis
Well seeing as the guy who made the studied had his medical license taken off him after scientists couldn't replicate the results he got in his "studies" I'd say you should be the one asking them for proof that they do
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Jaxon Murphy
well, sounds like his parents are already retarded
Austin Rivera
> I need some good proof that they don't.
I see that logical argumentation isn't your family strength.
EVEN IF they caused autism, which they don't, a one in a hundred thousand case is totally worth it containing those illnesses from decimating the population.
Gavin Collins
Yeah. The risk of gun crime or accidental shootings is minimal, that's why we should ban all guns.
Aiden Reyes
oops was supposed to be for
Robert Campbell
Does it really make a difference? You know what, if they didn't vaccinate you, you should persist in arguing pointless things with old fucks just to prove that you can get autism irregardless of vaccines.
Logan Reed
Yeah and if 1% of all refugees are ISIS militants that's irrelevant compared to the tens of percent of refugees that are honest good people who are looking for asylum!
Noah King
If Vaccines do cause autism, it's due only to the preservatives used in them.
The bigger cause of Autism are aged parents and chemicals in the environment
Older parents = Aged Gametocytes = Higher mutations due to genetic instability.
Logan Wood
This
And China.... before vaxx .0004% autism....after vaxx 2.6%.
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Bentley Price
Not sure if the government wants to poison people with vaccines and extort money from medicine, or manipulating people to stay unprotected and extort money from medicine.
Austin Ward
That's like saying we should ban automobiles because the risk of getting in a fatal accident is minimal. Nice logic retard
Nathaniel Ross
Someone refute this
Camden Watson
That's your logic senpai, not mine.
>We shouldn't get vaccines because we don't want to increase a minimal risk
>We shouldn't have guns because we don't want to increase a minimal risk
James Watson
Rates of mental retardation have gone down at almost exactly the same rate autism has gone up.
You know what else we introduced with western vaccines? Western psychiatry.
Jeremiah Butler
It causes autism. Proof: Three witness rule.
Gavin Rodriguez
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Jaxon Scott
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Nolan Hernandez
That one study was funded by a vested interest and thrown out and discredited by basically everyone with any expertise in the topic.
James Lee
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Xavier Martin
Your family does not have proof that vaccines cause autism either though.
Christopher Williams
>the lancer retracted the ONE paper about it an apologized
Yeah man. Totally legit. Lol.
Oliver Perez
Autism is caused by mothers having children aged like 32 instead of 20 like they were 100 years ago.
Justin Russell
>Pharmacology is infallible
>Praise science
this is how you libturds come across
Robert Watson
Your family lives in the fucking middle ages lol
Dylan Long
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Mason Butler
Best to avoid the issue and find a new, less tinfoil hat family.
Henry Hughes
>the only study linking MMR to autism was funded by a vested interest, had a sample size in the single digits and was quickly thrown out under peer review
>hurrr durr science is a libruls!!!!
Lucas Smith
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Bentley Butler
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Caleb Cook
Can you stop shitting up my thread?
Mason Rogers
>mfw 6k mmr and autistic
Andrew Johnson
I haven't posted the worst ones yet.
Josiah Allen
>Autism is the only problem "anti-vaxxers" have with vaccination
Yea I'm sure the companies who make millions off vaccines have no vested interest
oh wait they are shielded from direct lawsuits by the government
Blake Hernandez
The only paper in a peer reviewed journal that ever made this claim was published 20-something years ago and was almost immediately exposed as a fraud.
Jonathan Phillips
Autism spectrum : high functioning, squealing retard, Sup Forums user, in that order
Adrian Bennett
Just get vaccinated. Go to the doc, get another MMR, get Pneumonia, Meningitis, Tetanus, Hep A & B, and Gardasil.
Make sure you have it on video.
Show them.
Asher Ortiz
so many paid shills in this thread.
Jaxon Gutierrez
What about this one?
Evan Powell
>vaccines given since the 1940s
>no autism increase
>Jenny McCarthy, a playboy model says vaccines cause autism, not the fact that she was in her late 30s
yeahok.bmp
Joshua Price
Dumb cunts on facebook posting bullshit causes autism.
Tyler Baker
Praise science indeed. It's nice to be able to yell at each other on the internet in the comfort of our air conditioned homes, not worrying about what we'll eat or (for most of us) the quality of our water. It was hardly a century ago that most pepole even in the west didn't recieve adequate nutrition. There were (and are) many terrible diseases, and vaccines have gone a long way on that front. Anti vaxxers aren't taken seriously because they're shrill and obnoxious.
Henry Stewart
>Anti vaxxers aren't taken seriously because they're shrill and obnoxious.
But they create small communities where they grow feed each other, rendering vaccines effects over population less effective. Antivax are worse than cancer.
Joseph Rodriguez
Bollocks.
99% of children receiving vaccinations and 0.1% of them showing signs of autism is not a fucking correlation.
Like ADD before it, Autism is just the latest "trend" in psychiatry - overdiagnosed and overtreated. And you can already see "transgenderism" poising itself as the next big trend.
I guarantee within the next five years you'll see some bullshit papers claiming gluten causes gender dysphoria or some horseshit.
Cameron Barnes
You can't really prove a negative. And people who want to believe this dumb shit can never be talked out of it.
There's a strong correlation between vaccinations and autism diagnosis. The same way the lack of pirates correlates to global warming.
Levi White
Hmmm, yes, I will regard your personal non scientific anecdote in higher regard than peer reviewed studies.
Hudson Ross
Enjoy your autism.
Hudson Wright
Weak bait, buddy.
Nathaniel Harris
Enjoy Mohammad's cock.
Jackson Flores
ITT a group of shills from reddit try to create a general group consensus regarding vaccines.
Nicholas Rivera
read or listen to the book Panic Virus.
It's the best book on the history of the invention of this meme. it also slams you over the head with so much evidence that you can convince any new age plebe.
Oliver Reyes
Andrew Nelson
this
i feel like i woke up one morning and every man and his dog was an expert on vaccines
Colton Bennett
Says the guy who gets his science news from kikebook
Jason Green
Consensus was reached 50 years ago, you delusional twat.
1) That was ethically wrong
2) The state isn't responsible for science
3) Niggers aren't actually people
Asher Hughes
sexy leopard babe
Luis Brown
NCBI has information on 285 books and 1706 peer-reviewed papers discussing autism and vaccination.
You found one paper. One paper that doesn't describe a causal relationship between them. Doesn't show evidence of a strong correlation. One paper that argues 'a possible correlation that warrants further study'.
THAT is why nobody takes this shit seriously.
Eli Ortiz
Maybe we should just pay attention to you know, the people who are actually experts in vaccines.
Benjamin Ortiz
Warrants further study but according to yall the science is settled
Gabriel Gonzalez
This post on politically INcorrect. Fucking reddit..
>muh air-conditioning.
>Implying I care about that
>implying less people die because le science
>implying global corporate hegemony is a fair price to pay for porn and quadcopters
Gavin Barnes
nice deflection schlomo
Lucas Carter
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Jose Bennett
There are still people in my field who publish shit on "the electric universe" model or "modified Newtonian dynamics" as alternatives to General Relativity. For every one of these papers you can find a thousand publishing conclusive evidence in support of GR. That doesn't mean GR is on shaky ground.
You found one paper that claims there's a weak correlation that warrants further study. There's another ~1700 or so that disagree.
That's what we generally call "settled" in peer-reviewed research.
Aaron Sullivan
Check out the package inserts provided by the very manufacturer. It's not like the government has paid millions of dollars to settle autism cases!
David Allen
look for
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Lucas Richardson
>"we"
oh so you're a scientist? please tell me your qualification
Owen Martinez
Dumping Vaccine Info:
GlaxoSmithKline saw profits rise to £2.2bn in first quarter thanks to swine flu vaccine
theguardian.com
CSL Projects Profit Drop as Swine Flu Pandemic Ends, Cutting Vaccine Sales
CIA organised fake vaccination drive to get Osama bin Laden's family DNA
Senior Pakistani doctor who organised vaccine programme in Abbottabad arrested by ISI for working with US agents
guardian.co.uk
CDC Responds: Admits Omitting Vaccine Data
youtube.com
CDC Epidemiologist Whistleblower Confirms New Review Showing Vaccine Autism Link
Merck Has Some Explaining To Do Over Their MMR Vaccine Claims
huffingtonpost.ca
Narcolepsy link to Glaxo vaccine poses challenge for FDA
reuters.com
England too finds narcolepsy link with pandemic flu vaccine
blogs.nature.com
William Torres
The Link Between an H1N1 Vaccine and Narcolepsy
healthland.time.com
Swine flu shot linked to narcolepsy, study finds
vitals.nbcnews.com
Why flu vaccine may cause narcolepsy
voices.washingtonpost.com
Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism
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CDC Report Stirs Controversy For Merck's Gardasil Vaccine
Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children With Autism
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CDC Report Stirs Controversy For Merck's Gardasil Vaccine
Mystery illness hits girls in small South American town
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Controversial vaccine studies: Why is Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation under fire from critics in India?
Samuel Reyes
I would assume a postgrad student in Physics, given the context of his post.
Parker Walker
HPV vaccine Gardasil recalled over glass shards in vials
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Generic Lipitor lots recalled due to glass particles; Ranbaxy yanks 40 lots of the cholesterol drug
nydailynews.com
Israel to pay $6 million compensation to anthrax vaccine trial subjects
rt.com
Baxter admits flu product contained live bird flu virus
ctvnews.ca
Uptick in Whooping Cough Linked to Subpar Vaccines
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When polio vaccine backfired / Tainted batches killed 10 and paralyzed 164
sfgate.com
Polio vaccine suspected in death of girl aged 3
Some Oral Poliovirus Vaccines Were Contaminated with Infectious SV40 after 1961
cancerres.aacrjournals.org
Rise in paralysis cases after polio vaccine
Leo Adams
John Adams
>linking to Cuckox
Don't do that.
Cameron Lopez
There are thousands of articles which say the opposite of your silly nonsense and it's just an excuse by you to not make a real argument. That's fine. Dumb people will be convinced I'm sure.
Ethan Howard
Best leaf
Benjamin Wilson
people already claim gluten causes autism
John Rodriguez
Thousands of children in Irish care homes at centre of 'baby graves scandal' were used in secret vaccine trials in the 1930s
Syrian children's deaths 'caused by vaccine mix-up'
Medics carrying out a vaccination programme in rebel-held northern Syria accidentally administered a muscle relaxant to up to 75 children, killing 15 of them, the opposition says.
bbc.com
Vaccine Mix-Up In Syria Not Uncommon In US, Canada
Aiden Wood
The swine flu fraud of 1976, on 60 Minutes
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Government to get special swine flu vaccine
Second-Class Medicine: Germans Unhappy with Alternative Swine Flu Vaccine for Politicians
In Germany, a Better Vaccine for Politicians?
Isaac Bennett
We don't really know. Most likely genetics. Some kinds of trauma can cause it to surface, but it won't happen, unless you already had it in your genes. My parents, who are both doctors, once told me that there is one vaccine application when child is in the age when the autism is most likely to be diagnosed ( both in non vaccined and vaccined kids so there's no causation). The myth might be caused by retard deduction
Gabriel Price
Thanks, Sven. I woke up to this bullshit today (pic related), so the issue has been on my mind.
If I am forced to attend this course I will be bringing so much redpilling material with me... All "skeptical" people who attend with me will leave even more certain of their position.
Christian Martin
It's not the number of articles you goddamn illiterate! It's the fact that vaccines are pushed through the state apparatus by financial interests under the guise of being some goodwill project to protect us against some invisible threat.
Fact is vaccines fuck up all the time and their benefit is often questionable, as in h1n1 for example.