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>What is noiserock?
An umbrella term for a section of post-hardcore music defined by having certain abrasive unmusical qualities; like squealing saxophones, odd time signatures, dissonance, or just lots of noisey feedback / effects.
>Where do I start?
Big Black - Atomizer
No Trend - Too Many Humans
The Jesus Lizard - Down
These exemplify the three main sounds found in noiserock.
>Now what?
Stick around.
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Starting topic: What's the best contemporary noise-rock act around?
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Hands down the White Suns, they are untouchable in terms of conisitency and complexity. Saw them live in LA, and they blew my FUCKING mind
Where do I find people to make my noisy krauty tribal post-punk band?
Blue Daisies - Wilt is still better than 90% of noise rock amd is the intercession between The Birthday Party and Cop Shoot Cop
Also fuck you if you don't worship Brainiac
How should we know?
GNOD according to squigly
Anyone got some stuff that's more depressive rather than just purely angry?
You can try this band, Swivel Stick. They were a punk band band from Florida that also had a flair for the experimental. Think of them sorta like the Husker Du of the 90s. They only released one album, but had a second album in the works. The music was generally depressive stuff. Shame that second album never came out, it was looking to be pretty rad.
Album they released:
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So I starting by listening to Swans - Filth, and Big Black, and then quite a bit of noise rock. I need more really abrasive bands beyond entry level. Recs?
>Where do I start?
Add this:
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You in Southern California? Can hit me up man.
What part of So Cal you in? Im not that guy, but Im nearby Long Beach
Hello, I'm new.
Anything else similar to Public Strain?
>already heard their first album
I'm in Long Beach. zecchelovek is my Skype.
Wait fuck sorry that's my old one, lysosometon is my current.
Alright, attemoting to add you
have you heard the guitarist/singer's other project?
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I've heard Preoccupations but not this. I'll check it out, thanks
>post-hardcore music
What the fuck
So, Les Rallizes Denudes, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Boredoms, The Gordons, Loop and others aren't noise rock just because they aren't post-hardcore? lol what
evening boys, chartnigga reporting in
whatcha got chart nigga
still listening to alot of stuff, i have like 80/90 albums i have to listen to lmao.
so far ive fallen in love with afrirampo, figured that atomizer>SAF, boris are incredible and boredoms are a trance. also swans early stuff > their newer and revival stuff
Pop Tatari has the most cathartic song of all time, fucking incredible. This is really the height of noise rock for me:
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Skip to 4:30 for y'all impatient fools.
christ bro thats insane, when everything came in after that brush my (?) 8 that was intense, definetly not my kind of music but i absolutely love that part and the more ambient bits like around the 8 minute mark
this is my favorite album
Those are post-punk at least
And they are noise rock
Calm your tits
LRD, Dinosaur Jr, Boredoms and Loop are not post punk
I'm not going to argue with you, call it what you want
I agree, that definition is terrible, I can't stand post-hardcore influenced crap, most of the stuff I like about noise rock I think came from post-punk, industrial or free improv.
>most of the stuff I like about noise rock I think came from post-punk, industrial or free improv.
Can you namedrop some bands?
I don't think there's an album without vocals that expresses pure anger better than Machine Gun.
i'm sorry if that came out as pretentious, that was not the intent, i just don't like post-hardcore
but anyway it's the usual stuff everybody here likes too, swans, sonic youth, dna, mars, ramleh (the rockier side of them), skullflower, boris, a place to bury strangers, big black (yeah i know, but never felt them to be 'post-hardcore', the drums remind me of industrial rock), fushitsusha, distorted pony, brainbombs
What don't you dig about post-hardcore? And thanks for that list.
I'm in East LA, play guitar and have a few songs/noises. My Skype is:
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>post-hardcore
i tried listening to the jesus lizard thinking it would be the harshest shit but it came down to sounding like heavy rock music with slightly weird vocals, emphasis on riffs instead of white noise and distortion, same thing goes for shellac, too technical (no wonder people classify it as math rock too)
also it might have something to the fact that i dislike hardcore punk as well
>i tried listening to the jesus lizard thinking it would be the harshest shit
>emphasis on riffs instead of white noise and distortion
There's the problem man. Gotta temper your expectations. Check this:
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Otherwise I understand your grievances.
Ruins is the only noise rock band looking at imo
thank you friend, i'll listen to the whole thing later, it's late as fuck here
so far the second track is nice, the first one the vocals were too angsty, i don't think that's noise rock still though
Besides the band that's about to be formed, what other noisy krauty tribal post-punk bands are there?
>shellac
>too technical
I love Shellac to death but they are the furthest thing from technical. Sure precise and tight, but it's very simple music. For their "noise rock" tracks
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I'll admit Crow is a initially a patience tester, but after a while it became my favorite Albini song
do all the recording yourself and hire people for live shit with the warning that they probably won't like what they're playing
Ok just discovered this local band from 90's omaha called Ritual Device. Think Jesus Lizard just less dissonance, but more emphasis on sludgy bass lines
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(Studio album)
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Really abrasive you say?
Check out:
Arab On Radar (last two LPs)
US Maple
DNA
John Zorn - Locus Solus
Melt Banana
yeah, op has no fucking clue on what they're talking about. a lot of noise rock comes from no wave, post punk or psych
Holy shit, im listening to Hideous Sun Demon in the background while im drawing, and holy shit this is really good, i prefer it over lightning bolt, this is some good shit boys, thanks for reccing it to me!
and the goslings bro
Pretty sure they're talking about Boredoms
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laddio bolocko
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Pretty good opening track on the studio album, just the production is a little lackluster
I shit you not it was recorded by David Wm Sims in Albini's house in 92 or 93. But I agree, very unprofessional and flat sounding.
im still listening and its only impressing me more and more, an incredible LP, definitely underrated. not to mention theyre from my home country as well. fuck im gonna have to buy the vinyl just to support them that bit more
The most underrated noise rock album ever.
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>Where do I start?
>Big Black - Atomizer
>No Trend - Too Many Humans
>The Jesus Lizard - Down
>These exemplify the three main sounds found in noiserock.
pretty cancerous post op not gonna lie
sonic youth and dinosaur jr aren't fucking noise rock get that bullshit out of here
>Doesn't posit alternatives
with a statement as autistic as
>These exemplify the three main sounds found in noiserock.
why should i even bother?
Is this noise rock? Also melt banana?
>Still not positing alternatives
christ, her character was god fucking awful in TD
yeah. both are pretty heavy on the grindcore
That's more like prog, not noisy. GREAT album though.
Just for clarification, could The Pop Group's Y be considered noise rock?
Can you link some prog as abrasive sounding as that? Genuine question, not a snipe or snark.
Of course, have you not heard of brutal prog?
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I guess it's more noisejazz than noiserock but can I get some recs that sound like this?
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Masayuki Takayanagi - Mass Hysterism in Another Situation
I'M A PLANE
I'M A PLAAAAAAAAANE
Yeah that's pretty much noisy free-improv.
Intradasting. At around 6:10 what stops this from being called noise rock?
Well you're just picking out a moment. Overall this record is brutal prog. But The Flying Luttenbachers have changed around a lot, some of their records are definitely closer to noise rock (like The Void), but they're part of a more brutal prog aesthetic, like Yowie, Ruins, etc..
I thought Ruins was zeuhl? Do you know of any noise-zeuhl?
>Well you're just picking out a moment
Yes, and Mosaic is filled with tons of moments of noise rock. The ending of Suite Circle, the climax of Martzmer, the intro of Suite Circle, Emer's beginning and ending, it goes on. I will concede and say it's not ENTIRELY noise rock, but it most DEFINITELY has noise rock in it as a prime element, along with free-jazz, and this brutal prog.
This is what all noise rock bands should aim for, unapologetic and cathartic music with over-the-top lyrics, poorly recorded. Not that Albini trash.
The vocals aren't nearly as visceral as something from Boredoms. I'd love it if more bands aped these kinds of sounds:
Yes it has elements of various things, but really, genre is obsolete. The Luttenbachers are definitely brutal prog, Weasel even coined the term. So you know, if labels make you feel safe and comfortable, by all means lump things in little boxes for your mental health. It's all just music to me, no need to confine and limit things, that just leads to reducing creative possibilities, which is never good.
Ruins are zeuhl but started out noisier. Lightning Bolt are another bass and drums duo that remind me of them but are definitely more noise rock. If you care.
Lol get off my dick ya jerk. You're the one who started this conversation by interjecting Mosaic is more like prog. Then when I point out the moments in the album that are indicative of noise you double back and go "genre is obsolete" while coming at me with this bullshit:
>So you know, if labels make you feel safe and comfortable, by all means lump things in little boxes for your mental health
Fuck off you jerk. Can't even stick to your guns or have a normal conversation. Funny thing is I agree with you about genre labeling. I posted Mosaic because it's relevant to the topic of the thread, or didn't you notice?
Who's that drummer in the OP pic? I can count on one hand the number of true lefty drummers I've met in my life, they're really interesting to me.
>This is what all noise rock bands should aim for
Than it would sound boring
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That is a pic of twin stumps.
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What's wrong with Albini?
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Besides Oxbow, White Suns and Metz any other noise rock records from 2017 to look out for?
FOR TEN DOLLARS
YOUR ASS IS MIIINE
Love that record.
Literally what albini does, but with exceptional recording quality
i prefer urge to kill desu
at the handbag factory? lmao i was there
>playing the same guitar riff over and over while yelling about rape is better than Albinicore
high level contrarianism
GNOD desu
y'all keep talking about noise rock yet you're forgetting early Swans.
It is better
girl band is pretty fire. they need to release another record
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Cop and Young God EP are the only stuff worth checking out from that era of theirs