How can we fix this?

How can we fix this?

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Stop the neocolonialism and give them monetary independence
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Dump them into France, Germany, Sweden and UK.
Alternatively: spread more HIV.

African countries are shit because of corruption, as are most poor countries.

The 0.1% who are part of the elite live like kings at the expense of the common man

pretty easy to grow a million percent when you have nothing

Nukes

colonial rule

BBC immigration to japan

>Cut off all foreign aid other than training and direct investment
>reduce trade barriers that the EU has for African agricultural products
>refuse post-study work visas for African graduates of western universities (to prevent brain drain)
>re-authorise the use of private military companies to provide security to corporations operating in Africa
>open up training centres in regional capitals to train workers to actually be employable beyond menial labour
>provide infrastructure and maintenance training in return for raw materials, similar to what China is doing
>expand schooling so that EVERYONE in a given African country speaks one main language in addition to whatever else
>encourage African self-policing of election results (similar to what recently happened in Gambia)
>establish regional African universities in stable countries held up the western standards and with western oversight until they are judged to be disciplined enough to maintain high standards
>encourage development banks in stable African nations such as Botswana, Ethiopia or Ghana to employ local experts and begin increasing investment and liquidity within the region
>revive the General Scheme of Preferences tariff exemptions for certain African-produced goods going outside the EU
>encourage multinational investment by establishing free trade zones in coastal and strategic inland areas which are policed and administered by joint Western-African forces and administrators
>gradually discourage Islam in the unstable northern areas in line with what Singapore did
>control population growth in urban areas by providing tax exemptions only for the first two children reared by a family, with others being taxed at progressive rates until it becomes totally uneconomical to have kids; modulate the exemptions in rural areas by providing farm equipment and agricultural training instead of tax exemptions, as the increase in productivity will decrease the need for additional children

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>create scholarships in partnership with African governments to train cohorts of administrators, engineers and social workers to be trained in the west and directly admitted into government service upon their return so that there's actually a capable talent pool that African governments can tap in to

That's all I can think of for now.

focus efforts on infrastructure if going the globalization route

otherwise just stop sending them aid and let them fix themselves

those are the only 2 options that could work

>Begin to develop
>Other power comes and offers your ministers of government millions for oil drilling right
>None of the money goes to civilians
>Other power just takes resources

Impossible

I was skeptical but still hearing you out until
>re-authorise the use of private military companies to provide security to corporations operating in Africa
A) never going to happen
B) nor should it, because it would basically just equate to looting said African country.

>African engineers and administrators

hm......

Somalia would be first world if it wasn't for the soviets. Italians at least brought some culture.

nigga one of those costs more than the entire GDP of Africa

The problem is, without security there will be zero investment. No one's going to invest $40m to open a new fish hook factory or whatnot if they can't be reasonably sure the government will protect their investment. This might not be a problem in, say, the Ivory Coast (in which case that's a plus because they won't have to undergo the expense), but if someone wants to set up a mining operation in the Congo it's impossible for them to invest if there's a good chance a rebel group 200km will roll up and seize the entire area.

I'm not saying we should go back to East India Company-tier raping and pillaging by corporations, but allowing a corporation to provide for its own security in high risk areas doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

They do exist, but they usually stay abroad or else are poorly trained.

>set up a mining operation in the Congo it's impossible for them to invest if there's a good chance a rebel group 200km will roll up and seize the entire area.
>I'm not saying we should go back to East India Company-tier raping and pillaging by corporations, but allowing a corporation to provide for its own security in high risk areas doesn't sound unreasonable to me.


Because they abuse that security a lot.

>Italians at least brought some culture.

Lol that's stupid.

Like the countries have their own security and often companies use the private security to strong arm locals or hire killers in poorer nations to get rid of any activists.

Like the companies themselves are not innocent or blameless in any way. Few are because they engage in corruption in gain a footing or go ahead and often lie and this happens worldwide because taking these entities to court is a massive pain in the ass and they get protections in many cases like here in Canada.

>re-authorise the use of private military companies
Kys, anarcho-capitalist
>control population growth
That's the inequalities the problem not the population

They need democracy

Colonial rule was what got them into this mess in the first place.

>inb4 muh tech benefits

they were shit before, during and after colonial rule

They were fine before colonialism. No widespread (relative) poverty as there is now.

yea just widespread absolute poverty

Not having technology =/= poverty.
There was enough food to go around for the population living in Africa.

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they are poor because socialism and state intervention in economy

Chink colonisation

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RICED. It will be the hip new thing after BLEACHED and BLACKED.
>phone posting makes me feel like a plebian.

>unironically believing your own nation's propaganda about what they did on the continent
you absolute faggot, the majority of them were living stable lives and were able to properly feed themselves before your asses came barging in
also, next time you decide to go colonizing the world again, try not to get fucking blue-balls and pull out when they're not properly ready for independence, yeah?

If we genocided every single male in Africa then BLEACHED all their hotties, the average IQ of Africa would increase from 70 to 85
Imagine how much the continent would improve?

You are truly enlightened, sir.

Allow the Chinese to continue to plunder its resources and usher in a new era of qt blasians

>they are poor because socialism and state intervention in economy

You need state intervention to actually make your economy worth a shit like East Asia did and socialism is shitty excuse because not many African states are socialist or were socialist.

Bring them over to a sufficiently advance country and uplift the....Oh wait, already did that :^)

Cool red Somalia.
One for the flag bank.

make it Greek
everything would be better

leave them alone for one

> begin to develop
> West kills the guy responsible for development and replaces him with a stereotypical African warlord
> development halted forever

The West must perish.

Let China handle it

Define democracy

>question the eternal anglo/frank
>not expect to die

Sankara knew he would be killed. He just didn't expect it so soon.

by stopping the meddling, on all levels

also, by offering scholarship programmes to their students, but only on the condition that they study natural sciences or STEM-shit. africa deosn't need more humanists who get paid to write obscurantist articles whining about colonialism.

Technically, they do. Foreign aid makes up like 10% of subsaharan Africa's GDP. If they lose their shills, they lose the aid.

> reduce trade barriers that the EU has for African agricultural products
Why? Our products are genuine and untoxic to humans as we have high standards on production, we can't trust Africa, China or even the US have standards as high as ours

with fire

>Foreign aid makes up like 10% of subsaharan Africa's GDP
Foreign "aid" is generaly used to push for certain political agendas. It also destroys local industries. Subsistence farmers have to compete with "free" crops that were treated with pesticides and pumped full of hormones. If they can get these superior crops for free, the farmers in question would be doing the only rational thing by giving up on farming and just begging the West for more of these crops.

Foreign aid is killing Africa's development potential. Let the farmers grow their own crops, let them learn what works and what doesn't and let them sell their crops. I'd say African governments should force high import tariffs giving the local population little choice but to buy from these farmers.

The Free Market doesn't work like in the Smithsonian ideal and even 'muh free trade' EU realizes this (it has import tarrifs for goods coming in from outside of Europe, a universal import tariff at that). If the entire planet functioned based on free trade, only America and a few select other countries would profit, and Africa would be even further down the drain. Free trade is for the succesful, for the unsuccesful free trade is like the succesful kicking the ladder to the top down.

That's more of a European problem than an African problem. Funding for the humanities should be horribly trimmed down, much like happened in Japan recently (which triggered Americans like there's no tomorrow).

>Why?

Because lower costs at any cost, user.

>le just let the fuckers starve meme

How exactly did stopping the last 50 mass famines in Africa hurt them?

Kill yourself

>Because lower costs at any cost
Idiot. This is how you end up with European factories moving to China and the only jobs being available in Europe being the ones that either require top level education and good connections or the ones that are the most likely to be replaced by robots within our lifetime. This is also the mindset that increases mass migration: either you can take your companies to Africa or you can take Africa to your companies.

It may strike you as incredibly outlandish, but some people believe politics should be about more than purely the economical. Some people unironically believe that proper governance means representing the common good of the masses, or at the very least the electorate.

This is sensible but will never happen because Leftists.

>How exactly did stopping the last 50 mass famines in Africa hurt them?
By increasing dependency on the West, you idiot. Dropping foreign aid right now would harm Africa more than having dropped it 30 years ago. And somewhere between the next 50 and 150 years dependency on the West will have gotten so massive that the West simply cannot shoulder the burden. Then we will see the mother of all famines.

It's effectively asking Africa if they want to break their leg today or break their neck tomorrow.

That's why we have monstrous unemployment in both of our countries you fucking cunt

Stop always assuming everyone who posts something you disagree with is your enemy.

>Population doesn't adjust to environment
>Continues to grow uncontrollably
>Next famine kills 2 million instead of 750,000

Aid multiplies suffering.

Except that Africa is far less dependent on foreign aid today than it was 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 years ago. Likewise their domestic food production has grown 2000%. The reason famines happen is because of war/general chimping out.

I was being sarcastic.

You anons always assume the other is your boogeyman before you actually think about what was posted and why.

>Africa is far less dependent on foreign aid today than it was 40 years ago.

Interesting, do you have a source to back this up?

genocide
In the world were 3 great colonial empires.
French didn't genocide natives, and their
former colonies is an utter shit, and now France is an African colony.
Spain didn't genocide natives and mixing with them, now their former colonies narco-corrupt shit, but better than french colonies.
The British former colonies are now excellent countries where natives have been genocided, and shit where is not.

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You're also a pedantic if you actually think Africa is as dependent today as it was in the late 70's-early 80's when it had famines everywhere and civil war.

Honestly true. A lot of this shit would fix itself in time if the rest of the world fucked off.

This
African nations would need extreme protectionism and nationalisation to rebuild and restructure their economy, slowly transitioning into free market economies as their literacy rate and general standard of life goes up. Countries like the DRC have untold amounts of wealth in the ground, but their corrupt government lets companies mine it for dirt cheap and sell it for a killing
>implying any western governments are going to allow them to do this