Life of a rap fan

>be me
>born in 1973.
>gets into rap music into 80s.
>90s come along
>have amazing time listing to all the classics from wu tang, nas, biggie, 2pac etc.
>200s come in, meh. some good shit.
>2010s come along
>95% of rap music is utter shit.

fascinating

truly

what do you think made it worse, the fact that it got really popular and everybody wanted to make money doing it? a lot of people combined with money tend to ruin most things.

beats became shittyier, lyrics, melody, names, album covers, topics, everything became utter shit

Metal fan here,

It only gets worse friend.

youre becoming like the old people who didnt like wutang nas and biggie back in the day. shit changes. deal with it old man

we stand together. I feel ya nigga feel ya.

no. I'm not blind by that. I've gave it a chance, its trash.

I don't think rap is getting worse, its just the bad shit is getting radio plays, whereas you need to look for the good shit most of the time.

I agree, a little.

23 years old here, it's trash. Most of it is adlibs and repetitive shit with autotune.

Don't get me wrong there is some good shit out there today, but it ain't on the surface.

you think that it might just be you not being able to acclimate to different. evolving sounds? That you're too lost in a comfortable packet of nostalgia where rap music presented as a certain set of images and sounds instead of constant progression through its form?

agreed. the problem started in the 200s. most rappers from the 90s were still around so they wore themselves out in that time. now their gone and have been replaced with trap faggots who drink cool aid and do that hair dye shit

>be me
>born in 1989
>gets into rap music into 00s
>have amazing time listing to all the classics from N.W.A., Nas, Deep Mobb, Ice Cube etc
>2010s come along
>99% of rap music is utter shit

It's why i personally dont consider trap to be hiphop, its closer to pop. Not to get too into genres, but hiphop is based on sending a message, telling a story that should be told. You don't see that in trap, all you hear is catchy beats and lyrics that are simple and easy to remember i.e a pop song.

sad to see a classic style of music flush down the shitter

>be me
>born in 1995
>never listened to rap a lot
>2010s come along
>am quite pleased with modern rap

Rappers used to worthless niggers growing up ghettos in absolutely shit conditions dealing with all kinds of shit fucking them up permanently and eventually reflecting on this wealth of fucked up life experiences.

Now rappers are worthless niggers who grow up in sheltered upper middle class lives no longer facing anything near what was in the past and still try to act as if their life was tough the same way. It's pretty obvious why the quality is lower.

exactly, user

that's true shit. when we become pampered we lose all meaning to get up and do anything so what we work on becomes lazy bullshit.

Same. Just got into it like last year.

nigger

>be me
>1973

Lmao kys old relic

Holy shit nigga you're boring

also :
>95% of rap music is utter shit.
Listen to more than the radio my dude

>am old
>used as an argument,

It not an argument, it a statement, gramps

I'll tried. but still probably wont find some thing I like

>gramps

only thing more embarrassing than being a rap fan is that you are still here in your 40s neck yourself oldfag

Oh I'm sorry that not every rapper today wears timbs and raps over dusty boom bap beats. It sure does suck to have experimentation in your genre so it grows and changes to reach a wider audience.

Thats most of music since at least the invention of the radio

doesn't mean it isn't fucking trash.

Please tell me how a rapper like Future is trash. Is it because he doesn't spit "muh intellectual spiritual lyrical miracle" bars all the time? Is having a good beat with good accompanying vocals such a sin?

>dusty geriatric can't have fun
sad

Are you sure you're a rap fan?
Rap appears in many different genres and time periods and there's always been shit and good rap I suppose.
You sounf more like an old school hiphop fan than anything

>good beat
>good accompanying vocals
are you ok?

Quads speak the truth

facts

>0000

my cancerous thread got us to 000. could have been a better thread desu

The production is objectively better. Rakim's flow 30 years later is still more sophisticated than most but Eric B's beats are stuck in time. Album's like Paul's Botique, with brilliant people working in the background, still sound great but the atmosphere provided in contemporary hip hop blows it out of the water. The only reason modern rappers have gotten away with lazy lyrics is due to the producers propping them up.

Well that thing happens in every style.
I am fan of punk...

All you dadhoppers and lewronggeneration kids need to die already. It's because of people like you that hip hop gets held back every time it's trying to innovate.

>Critics want to mention that they miss when hip hop was rappin'
>Motherfucker, if you did, then Killer Mike'd be platinum

17 years old here and looking at both sides. Rap/Hip-Hop changes but you need to stick to the very roots. When I say that I mean, yes, the beat and music itself will change sonically But you still need bars. That is what Rap is supposed to be about, rapping. You need both, not just a beat by itself filled with mumbled shit. There are rappers who stick to this like Kendrick, Joey Bada$$, Danny Brown and many others. Then again just because you have vocabulary, It won't mean you can't be wack. As much as I like Logic's first album, his following albums are very disappointing, especially his sophomore album, since he was spitting bars right and left, but you really can't grasp the concept. It's like basically talking a lot, but not saying anything. Point is, you need the beat just as much as the rapper. Imagine Illmatic without the touch of producers like Q-tip, Large Proffesor, or DJ Premier. Imagine Madvillain without the work of Madlib, Or Dr. Dre's The Chronic with someone else producing.Those are perspectives I take from the right and left. As far as I see the good outweighing the bad, it seems there is more garbage in this newer generation than the last one. But then again I wasn't born in the 80s to grow up during the 90s. I'm pretty sure there were corny or bad rappers during that era like Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer. But we all remember the greats, I'm pretty sure in this era We will forget the Futures, Fetty Waps, and Chief Keifs, because artists that have valueable art will tend to stick to individuals rather than 15 minutes of fame.