How the fuck are Unions "Communist" ?

How the fuck are Unions "Communist" ?

In a Communist system, the employer is the state and if a group of workers try to unionize to negotiate better conditions, they'd be executed for treason and subverting the revolution.

This is America

Anything that could hurt the 1% automatically makes it a communist plot

Why do we need unions?

Answer: We don't. The exist to serve themselves and the DNC.

Why yes, Unions are made up of members who bargain for themselves; you are very astute for an edge lord

>The exist to serve themselves
This could be said about literally every single capitalist enterprise you can imagine.

They're not, but they both traditionally purport to be on the side of "labor" so they've been associated with each other over the years.

They don't end in maximum profit, might as well start starving the population and hating Buddhists

Themselves being the group of workers that they represent, sure.

Themselves being the 5-6 fat cats that scrape your paycheck and make it harder for you to work extra hours.

>Americans being completely clueless about unions

Sindicalists want to become part of the government through a revolution as "representatives" of the workers, who would no longer need unions. The party becomes the embodiment of the "working class", dominated by sindicalists.

Just look at 2014 Brazil. Biggest economic crisis since 1929, thousands going unemployed each week, hundreds of companies going broke, but where is the general strike? The only protests by unions were in SUPPORT of the government.

Communism hurts everybody, not just the 1%

>The exist to serve themselves

Abloo Bloo Bloo

Absolutely this. Those with money and power will use whatever means available to keep what they have and increase their share. Money is the chief resource and the media their greatest weapon.

Our being organized and United is their greatest threat.

>Sindicalists want to become part of the government through a revolution as "representatives" of the workers, who would no longer need unions.
Who then stupidly force businesses to increase their wages, leading to closed businesses and huge unemployment, leading to a change in government.

I'm not advocating for stupid, shitty politicians, but there's no reason why a group of workers can't decide collectively that their labor is more valuable then what they're being paid, especially since there's nothing really stopping major companies from doing the same thing, but lowering their labor costs.

Unlike you, I'm sure, I actually worked a union job for almost a decade and the overtime on any worked hours over 8 in a day never kept anyone from working less than 10 a day every day.

You didn't have to grow up as a child laborer because workers unionized. Once the jews took over the workers rights movements with capitalist money it became a "communist plot" and corrupt.

Go to communist China and try to start a union.

I can't wait to see you peasant scum starve to death in an internment camp once they crash the "free market" system you helped to create.

>You didn't have to grow up as a child laborer because workers unionized.

One of the major sociological reasons black kids in the 80s resorted to drug trafficking, stealing and killing is because they were prohibited from getting a regular job. Nice "accomplishment" Unions brought to society.

Unions aren't communist they are good organizations that protect white labor from shitskins getting paid 4 cents an hour

but yes they got infiltrated by communists and jews.

Unions are a tool for workers to get a better deal at the negotiating table, however they get to be large organizations and become not only internally corrupt but a corrupting force influencing the legal system and local governments to protect the unions and punish people who don't want to join. Look at the teachers union pushing to steal from non members pay checks. Most corporate groups behave the same way, and promote the same kind of cronyism but unions have tens of thousands of voters attached instead of a few dozen lawyers, lobbyist, and board members.
Associating unions with communism is more of a political smear campaign than anything and the similarities in ideology are easy enough to see.

I'm all for private sector unions. Employers collude to depress wages, I see nothing wrong with employers doing ditto to raise them.

My gripe is with public sector unions, AFT, NEA, AFSCME, etc. They should be disbanded.

Unions are not Communist. The state requiring you join a union as a condition of employment is Communist.

When businesses work together to set prices, we call it collusion, we call it price gouging, we call it evil and make it illegal.

When labor does the exact same thing, we cheer it on.

The simple fact is this: Anything which breaks down competition between economic actors will have a net harm on the average citizen.

Monopolies, oligopolies, and collusion are bad whether they are established by business or labor interests.

Yeah, that has nothing to do with them being felons with a mile-long rap sheet, right?

Unions aren't communists, most of them are just assholes.

>need job
>union on strike but people still working there
>get job there because need money
>get money
>union members break your legs and burn down your house because you didn't starve to death for their shitty $1.50 raise in income
>groups always 100% of the time led by some kike, usually an even bigger kike than the business owner

>When businesses work together to set prices, we call it collusion, we call it price gouging, we call it evil and make it illegal.
When its obvious enough to be seen. The fact of the matter is, businesses are in a much better position to collude than individuals who make easy targets. Unions have their problems, but when it comes to fixing the market in their favor, Corporate interests have the obvious advantage.