>But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.
What the FUCK did he mean by this?
Also, all the other "Ones" in the Architect monitors looked just like Neo. But Neo was a real human who looked like that in the real world too. So were there 6 people who all looked identical?
I bet the actor had no idea what his motivation was.
Adrian Jenkins
Huh?
Ryder Turner
The Neos in the monitors were just his potential emotions and reactions to what the architect was saying, not other Neos. And what do you think he meant by that? He was either bullshitting (unlikely since its revealed at the end that he doesn't lie since that's a human concept) or they've destroyed Zion five other times and have allowed a select few humans to survive and repopulate.
Jace Russell
What's not to get. It's the sixth time.
Ok in terms of the movie 1. We will have big battle in next movie 2. What you have been working on is pointless
Jordan Campbell
I bet that the guy in OP's pic did not know shit about the plot and just read his lines.
Jaxon Ortiz
Not exactly.
The real world is "the real world", but through his interactions with the Matrix, Neo achieves the equivalent of a buddhist enlightenment.
Liberating himself from the Matrix, becomes analogous to liberating himself from reality.
Easton Foster
for fucks sake, zion isn't another part of the matrix it's a real world settlement that the machines allow to exist because it serves an important purpose, to give humans the choice to stay in the matrix or leave, which as the architect says himself is the reason the matrix works
neo is basically a physical manifestation of a computer program that occurs every so often as a result of the matrix's design to allow choice
that's literally it
Connor Sanders
>or they've destroyed Zion five other times and have allowed a select few humans to survive and repopulate.
For what purpose?
>The Neos in the monitors were just his potential emotions and reactions to what the architect was saying, not other Neos.
Objectively wrong. When our Neo says 6, the others are heard saying "4?" "5?" which is to directly imply they were previous iterations of the one. Many other points in the series people mention other ones they met.
Grayson Powell
>Neo was a real human >human >man
oh, ok
Benjamin Sullivan
Nothing to do with any discussion in this thread though
Landon Roberts
he's literally a human though
Hunter Brown
>For what purpose? Need a place to catch all of the people who escape, and control them through physical force.
Andrew Brown
Why not just have a sentinel kill them?
Christian Lewis
>For what purpose? Machine needs men. For electricity and for fun.
Levi Sullivan
Yeah but they grow people in fields.They don't need people in Zion
David Long
>purpose Two reasons, it gives humanity choice, the illusion of free will, and concludes the set up of the One that the machines created. Secondly, it would seem it inevitable that Zion grows and grows to a point where secrecy is no longer an option and open conflict is upon them. After Neo realizes the Prophecy record numbers of humans were leaving the Matrix, flooding Zion.
The One Prophecy allows life on Earth between the Machines and Humanity to continue endlessly.
Aaron Gonzalez
They successfully court out other people who can escape.
They're isolating rebellious people.
Sebastian Garcia
>Many other points in the series people mention other ones they met. Yes but they never say the other "Ones" look like Neo. If there were multiple Neos then anyone that has met previous Neos wouldn't have any doubt that something fucked was going on with the Matrix. No character reacts to a THE Neo in that manner.
Cameron Young
hey wait didn't the Oracle say he looked better in the 1st one?
Chase Martinez
But why not just have machines court/identify the rebellious people and then kill them?
Easton White
No, because all the people who would have met the previous Neos would necessarily be programs, to survive over from previous iterations of the matrix, and as such not react like humans
Am I the only one who thinks Reloaded is the best Matrix film?
Nathan Cook
No there were 5 before you
Gabriel Rogers
>Objectively wrong. When our Neo says 6, the others are heard saying "4?" "5?" which is to directly imply they were previous iterations of the one
No. That's Neo reacting and thinking about the previous Ones.
>Many other points in the series people mention other ones they met.
Yes, but not people who look exactly like Neo. Just people with his abilities. The Merovingian says "I survived your predecessors", implying that there were others like Neo before. If it was literally a copy of Neo, he would have said something like "I outlasted you before and I'll do it again".
Oliver Ross
Look if you don't want to pay attention to the movies that's fine but don't comment about them in that case.
Robert Sanchez
HA!
David Cox
It's not just the rebellious ones. The machine wants to control the majority.
They found that Matrix only works if people can choose to go to Zion, "even if the choice is made unconsciously" (paraphrased).
So the machine let people know about Zion "in their unconscious" and most choose to stay.
Gavin Butler
He helped write it son...
Ayden Hall
the only good thing thing to come of the matrix sequels was will ferrell's parody of that scene
Matrix has an unavoidable structural flaw in that a small portion of humans will always reject the simulation due to skepticism and paranoia. Since trying to suppress it is a waste of time, awakened humans are allowed to leave the Matrix and when they're nicely gathered in one place the machines kill them all and repeat the process. The One mainly exists to provide a mythology that gives Zion legitimacy.
Cameron Hill
That was... actually funny.
Tyler Clark
Literally haven't seen this in like more than 10 years, back on funnyjunk or some shit like that, thanks
Charles Butler
He's there to balance the equation. remember how the first Matrix failed because the human lives were cut short because blissful existence seemed to be antithetical to human nature.
Easton Butler
>babby's first existential art house
Logan Sanders
Neo was a Matrix instrumentation to destroy the virtual world, and restart the system again, all that gave a multidimensional conscience to the matrix population, so people could experience a more real conscience and have feelings like "deja vus" and a more real experience, also this reboot was needed because the matrix as whole was creating rebel programs, so there must be a way all the system had to be debugged without blaming the central core.
So there were many, many Neos, most of them failed their purpose and were destroyed, but their "consciences" were displayed in the scene.
Jayden Bell
>two thousand and three ehm tee vee movie awards
wew
Cameron Hernandez
>2003 was 23 years ago
David Carter
Concordantly.
Lucas King
Only funny shit to ever come from MTV
00s as fuck
Michael Rogers
Why didn't the machines just clear the sky and use the sun again? Surely after centuries they would have figured out a way to do this?
Levi Torres
What does this mean again
Nathan Harris
Because there was not enough energy to do that, all the earth's energy resources were depleted
Hudson Torres
Is "I'm going to architect a world of pain all over your candy ass!" the greatest taunt of our time?
Leo Rivera
Lol
Brandon Cruz
Why didnt the machines develop space flight and colonize the moon?
William Price
He meant that they destroyed the matrix over and over again due to the reoccurring glitch aka the chosen one, which this time around was Neo. Zion are just humans free from the Matrix and don't tie into what he explains.
Justin Morris
Huh.. So after the third one it'll just happen again
Luis Peterson
Don't watch the sequels.
Camden Gutierrez
Why wouldn't they just use geothermal energy to power generators?
Jonathan Butler
>the real world define "the real world"
James Hernandez
The first matrix is a pradise but people rebelled.
The second is a Hitler-Stalin stuff. People also rebelled.
The machine then finds out the key is to give people choice.
This movie argues that the sixth matrix works because people have unconscious choice to go to Zion
Though in this movie it doesn't looks like most people have the choice to go to Zion
James Jackson
Yeah probably in a few years during a "reboot"
Sebastian Miller
Fuck, I feel old now, goddamn...
Nicholas Lopez
>neo negotiates peace with the machines after literal hundreds of years of war >smith was actually the real hero for stopping the machines from the inside
Alexander Green
>Though in this movie it doesn't looks like most people have the choice to go to Zion
Eh if everyone can choose to go why did Oracle ask Architect to promise that?
Austin Rodriguez
I watched this a few months ago. It would make more sense that way, but that's not how the wachowski sissies meant it to be since they're hacks.
Kayden Perry
>it's a yelling Will Ferrell skit episode
Adrian Hill
One thing I don't get. They say in Revolutions that no one has been near the surface in 100 years or something. Yet when someone is unplugged, aren't their in the human battery fields? Then they fall out of their pods and end up where? I don't get this at all desu
Nolan Bailey
Why didn't they just use cows?
they could have just made a matrix that's a giant fucking pasture and they'd have been happy
Camden Richardson
If The One had existed before and failed then why did everyone believe that Neo would be successful?
Grayson Allen
Since The Matrix Online was a piece of shit that made no sense, how would you continue the canon?
Wyatt Sanders
Yeah but this was before NuMemes existed so it's fine
Jackson Ortiz
>why did everyone believe that Neo would be successful they didn't know about the previous ones
shouldn't the machines also be guarding the fuck out of their last and only power source
how can they just fly in there and extract people
Robert Reyes
>Polish transgender jews make 3 shitty flicks >nerds onlineactually think the story has been thought through
lmFao
Tyler Barnes
...
Jace Cox
back when sean was still a relevant dudebro
Matthew Lewis
back in 2005 they where still based.
Fuck knows why they went full lgbt final form though thats weird as fuck
Brody Cruz
>Goon was 5 years ago it hurts ;_;
Asher Jones
There is no sun, remeber?
Ryan Nguyen
It seems they wait in the sewage to pick up Neo after he got flushed away.
But yeah machines should have covered the sewage no sweat
Jeremiah Perez
Shit. That's really scary. I mean scary in the other way.
Matrix is still relevant. Will Farrel was relevant not too long ago. If you didn't point out that Sean is not, I would have an illusion that the whole thing is "recent" because it's "relevant" and that nothing has happened between the parody and now.
My brain has became a fuzzy junk since the Matrix Revolution.
John Barnes
You better be fucking baiting me.
Colton Davis
Scary Movie did it better.
Luis Gonzalez
>parodies will never be good again, just random youtubers doing le stupid voices and smearing on heaps of sarcasm and pointing out plotholes
*sigh*
Christian Bell
Why didn't the machines just fly to Mordor?
Aiden Fisher
he means literally what he says
Hudson Fisher
On rewatching, the Matrix sequels aren't that bad. Reloaded was a solid film, I enjoyed alot. Revolutions is mostly bad. The whole defence of zion shit with the mechs and the lesbians was just awful. Everything outside the Neo story arc felt like filler, with no real purpose.
Xavier Clark
was that small hooky story of the kid and like the captain bonding on the battlefield in the second or third movie
it felt like a retarded 10 minute sidequest
Anthony Stewart
>lesbians Huh?
Julian Phillips
This scene is too comfy.
Gavin King
Yeah second is alright but CGI ruins it for me. I hate neo vs smith fight, it feels like a videogame where solid gameplay stops for shitty QTE.
Also I feel weird about the fights in general: they feel slow, sluggish and not at all like the end of the first movie.
Nicholas Morales
Because they'd solved the power issue by then, and weren't actually using humans as a power source but as a network of processors - the battery thing came in because test audiences were too retarded to understand it.
Eli Bennett
>muh head canon
Whatever helps you sleep at night baby
Gavin Gonzalez
> which as the architect says himself is the reason the matrix works but.. why?
Michael Sullivan
why didn't they just build nuclear reactors ? surely a few hundred would be more effecient than humanity
Parker Torres
The first film says that they use fusion reactors on the side. I don't get it, the original idea of the human race as a kind of computing cluster made more sense.
Camden King
>entire film based around an idea >change base idea, leave everything else how it is leaving questions and minor plot holes >casually ignore the fact that it can all be fixed by acknowledging the original idea This isn't fanfic tier 'what if's, it's literally the plot of the fucking film that everything revolves around. That they changed one detail last minute doesn't change the fact that it explains away all issues that arose when they hamfistedly switched it out for a simpler, easier to follow idea.
Adam Nelson
While not great, the sequels do have some entertaining parts that hold it together, but by the time of the Battle of Zion, I'm always just bored to tears and want to whole thing to end.
Adam Sanchez
A network of processors, to do what? WHAT WAS THEIR ENDGAME
Ayden Lee
People think the Architect's speech is an absolute load but once you've heard it a few times you realize he's just explained the entire reason for the Matrix and The One's need to be part of it. There isn't a word out of place and because of that it's actually very succinct. Trouble is, the movie is pretty lowbrow to begin with so dumping this onto the audience makes it sound gay in comparison.
Julian Morales
How does Neo affect the squid machines at the end of 2 and go into a coma and become jacked in without a jack?
Alexander Watson
One of the more frustrating aspects of the third movie was the fact that they just ignored that the whole conversation with Col Sanders ever happened and never really addressed the whole >You are Neo #7 thing at all.