Since Sup Forums was pretty much destroyed in 2015 and most of its population now consists of politically illiterate and easily manipulated retards who fall for the jewish propaganda they claim to be against, it seems someone has to explain to people what Eurovision ever since the introduction of the ''jury'' system is about, what this years Eurovision was about.
So first of all, Ukraine was due to economic reasons I believe unable to participate in the Eurovision song contest in 2015 since the U.S/EU/NATO hostile takeover of the country and the subsequent economic and political colonization of the country by the U.S/EU/NATO. If they had been able to, they would've won since the U.S/EU/NATO has been looking to have Ukraine win the Eurovision song contest for propaganda purposes ever since they invaded Ukraine and uses Russias annexation of Crimea and ''''invasion'''' of Ukraine as a distraction from the fact that they themselves (U.S/EU/NATO) initiated violence and any illegal acts against Ukraine.
So, the ''jury system'. It is a system put in place so that the Eurovision song contest can be used either as distraction to what's happening in a specific county at any one time, or to make ''political statements'' for propaganda purposes. The mentally disturbed woman pretending to be a man that won for Austria I believe was one of these cases. It was a way to ''push'' the norms of society ever away from normality and health, by having a publicly mentally disturbed woman pretending to be a man claim victory and be hailed worldwide by millions upon millions of brainwashed people, the objective of course was to further destroy the white nuclear family in Europe to weaken the white race in relation to the U.S/EU/NATO ruling elite.
So I didn't personally watch Eurovision this year, or indeed for many years now, I've never watched a Eurovision with the Jury system in place, only when I was younger when all the votes were decided by phone voting. But according to Wikileaks, Australia got the most jury votes, Russia got less jury votes than Ukraine, which got less popular vote than Russia. Russia came in third DESPITE winning according to the viewers, and Ukraine won the whole thing thanks primarily to Jury votes.
Why? It feels unfair, right? Why should a country that didn't get the popular vote win by Jury decision? Because that's the entire point of the Eurovision now. To have the right country, with the right song, win. The song was political, of course it was, even if it's against the rules, it was allowed. Why? Because the song is sung by a mongrel half-white singing about ''evil russian invaders!'', and where is she from? Crimea of course. It was allowed in the contest despite breaking the rules, precisely because the U.S/EU/NATO wanted to use Eurovision this year for Ukrainian/Russian related propaganda. To emotionally affect millions of people to sympathize with Ukraine for perceived crimes by Russians against Ukrainians by conflating them with events of the past, it is basic elementary emotional propaganda.
What does Eurovision discussion look like the most post-contest? Go to Twitter and have a look, professional activists, NGO operatives, sock puppet accounts, butthurt 90 IQ retards, all are screaming at the top of their lungs about ''evil butthurt Russia haha!'', why? Because the whole Eurovision thing is genius, it is extremely easy to deny propaganda: ''It's just a contest bro! Stop being so mad!'', sure, in a normal world that would've been completely right and fair, but this is not a normal world, and the Eurovision song contest today is nothing but pure U.S/EU/NATO controlled propaganda.
Asher Jackson
So it's like the Saints getting gud after Katrina?
William Ramirez
You should consider to go to full/pol/.
Jeremiah Lee
Kill yourself sven
Jeremiah Walker
TLDR: Eurovision song contest has ever since it introduced ''Jury'', been nothing but U.S/EU/NATO propaganda by manipulating emotions of the people watching the show. In 2016 the propaganda was having Ukraine win and Russia lose, the same powers that be that control the Eurovision propaganda, also inject the post-contest discussion with sock puppet accounts pushing the: ''Russians are mad because they're evil psychopaths haha!'' angle to delegitimize legitimate criticism of the fact that Ukraine was allowed to use that song, and that it's unfair that a country that lost the popular vote, won the contest thanks to jury.
Carter Gutierrez
This place needs this information more.
Jaxon Brooks
Kill yourself anti-white.
Michael Diaz
I don't give a shit about Yurovision. Keep the gayness away from the USA. I do agree with your assessment based off of my own limited viewing of eurovision. It indeed comes off like propaganda to normalize degeneracy and also think that it's funny how a chink won this year's eurofag contest but the fake gook was in last place.
Still, I just don't give a fuck. The pozz originated from Europe. So it's your problem. At least in the USA, we were relatively aids free until Obama imported the gayness from the land of Eurocuck.
Adam Wilson
Btw, in this picture, note the whores econd tweet from the top, about Russian duma deputy Drapeko and his analysis of Russias loss in Eurovision, which is of course true because partly the reason why Russia lost was because Ukraine -also- got alot of popular vote (not as much as Russia, but still alot), and the reason for that is of course a ''protest vote against Russia'' due to the demonization of Russia in western mass media.
Aaron Ramirez
Your analysis of the U.S is incorrect, the U.S is basically the ''base of operations'' of World Jewry.
Luke Jenkins
And here's something I suspected all along. So, Ukraine couldn't have solely won due to Jury vote placed there by U.S/EU/NATO, right? So they need alot of popular vote aswell, how to achieve that? Well, a country could accidently give 12 points to Ukraine rather than the intended 0:
>Denmark accidently gave Ukraine 12, when it was supposed to give it 0.
Daniel Turner
There is nobody left to inform. The fifth wave is about to happen, just look how death this place is, only unironic shitposters left, I don't know why I still come here.
>Danish jury member gave wrong points >The Danish jury member Hilda Heick gave the opposite points that she intended to. Denmark gave 12 points to Ukraine on a mistake. Ukraine should have had zero points from Denmark
John Roberts
Don't underestimate Sup Forums senpai, some of us are aware of this eurovision shit for quite some time. Good luck informing the newfags tho.
Juan Ortiz
Oh shit, the schizophrenic swede is back! I thought you left forever. t. -CIA
Josiah Ramirez
We send the shittiest option in purpose because we can't afford holding the contest
Owen Evans
People will forget all of this in a week. Pretty much everyone already dislikes Russia so it's not like this will have changed anyone's views on them. In addition, we all already know all of our media is filled with propaganda.
>”Eurovision är en moralisk seger för krimtatarerna” Eurovision is a moral victory for the Crimean tatars
>''Reaktionerna går varma på sociala medier efter Jamalas seger i Eurovision Song Contest. Krimtatarerna ser det som en moralisk seger över Ryssland. '' The reactions on social media are warm after Jamalas victory on the Eurovision song contest. The crimean tatars see it as a MORAL VICTORY OVER RUSSIA
>''Vad betyder den här segern för Ukraina?'' >''– Reaktionerna på sociala medier är att det är en politisk seger. Det betyder väldigt mycket för ukrainare att de slog Ryssland. Dessutom är det symboliskt att Jamala är krimtatar eftersom Krim har annekterats av Ryssland. Det väcker en het debatt om det är möjligt för Ukraina att återta Krim. Många ser segern i Eurovision som revansch, en slags moralisk seger, och skriver att de vill se Eurovision på Krim nästa år, säger Elin Jönsson.'' What does this victory mean for Ukraine? The reactions on social media is that this is a political victory. It means alot for the ukrainians THAT THEY BEAT RUSSIA. Also it's a symbolic victory that Jamal according to the crimean tatars because Crimea has been annexed by Russia. It has sprung a hot debate about whether it's possible for Ukraine to TAKE BACK Crimea. MANY PEOPLE see the eurovision victory as some sort of revenge, a sort of moral victory, and they say that they want to se Eurovision in Crimea next year.
William Gray
Here comes the most blatant propaganda part:
>''Hur är situationen för krimtatarerna?'' >''– Krimtatarerna har fått det väldigt mycket sämre det senaste året. Alla farhågor som de hade vid annekteringen har besannats. Det sker mord på krimtatarer, de utsätts för husrannsakningar, deras tv-station har stängts ned och det krimtatariska parlamentet har stängts.'' How is the situation like for the crimean tatars? The Crimean Tatars have got it much worse the past year. All their fears about what would follow the annexation have come true. There are murders on crimean tatars, and they get subject to house searches, their TV-stations have been put down and the crimean tatar parliament has been put down.
Xavier Watson
>Pretty much everyone already dislikes Russia That's the point, they DON'T. Russia WON the popular vote.
Angel Watson
Fuck off underage newfag.
Evan Hughes
>Don't underestimate Sup Forums senpai, some of us are aware of this eurovision shit for quite some time. You need to speak up more then. All I see is retards like parroting the exact same lines as the professional activists and psyops operatives saying shit like: ''Haha evil Russia under evil dictator Putler lost and they're so mad haha!''
Nathan Lewis
They may like whatever song the Russian contestant performed, but the consensus seems to be that the Russians are the bad guys.
Asher James
Oh look, it's this russophilic Swede again. I already recognize you.
Please tell me, how do you have time to post here all the time? What kind of person are you? What are your hobbies? What compels you to do this? Do you partake in any other similar activities outside of Sup Forums?
Jaxson Rivera
>They may like whatever song the Russian contestant performed If the consensus is that the jewish massmedia is correct and Russia is the new Mordor and Putler is Sauron, then people wouldn't have voted for them even if they liked the song. That's not how Eurovision works.
Also note that Russia also won popular vote in Ukraine.
Brandon Jackson
How is that propaganda? It's understandable that Crimean Tatars don't exactly like Russia and oppose them. Russians disbanded the Majlis after all. The only thing that article says is that Crimean Tatars are happy about the result and hope that it will provoke more discussion about the future of Crimea.
Robert Nguyen
>russophilic Recognizing that the Eurovision Song Contest is U.S/EU/NATO propaganda to further their Anti-White globalist agenda doesn't make me a -----phile towards anyone.
If you support the U.S/EU/NATO: You're an Anti-White. If you oppose those who oppose the U.S/EU/NATO: You're an Anti-White.
Colton Wood
It's the shills, their numbers have gone through the roof recently, every second a new thread is being made and deleted shortly after, it's insane.
Colton Torres
>How is that propaganda? You don't know what the word propaganda means if you don't understand why when a woman goes on Swedish state owned television and starts making shit up about how this is all: ''A moral victory for Crimea Tatars against Evil Bad Russia that Illegaly Annexed Crimea!'', and her source being ''Social media''.
The act of doing so IS the propaganda. To affect public opinion in a certain direction by having ''experts'' tell people who things are.
Gabriel Bell
This is the type of people who speak the most loudly about the Eurovision Song Contest result.
Simply by looking at the company the victors of the Eurovision Song Contest and those who arrange it keep, you'll understand what powers that be (U.S/EU/NATO) it is that ensures these outcomes.
Thomas Taylor
Here's the BBC chipping on the topic.
Josiah Thompson
But that's true. Crimean Tatars do feel that it is a small, symbolic victory for them. It's just stating the fact, Crimean Tatars don't like Russians and they're happy that Ukraine won.
Matthew Anderson
Should promoting human rights, democracy and rule of law be banned?
Julian Morales
...
Easton King
She isn't a crimean tatar, she's a racemixed mongrel. I doubt the crimean tatars concern themselves with some propaganda contest on continental Europe. Why would it be a ''symbolic victory'' for them, over what? The shit about ''victory over Russia'' is just made-up nice sounding propaganda lines to affect retards like you.
Jeremiah Walker
Why are you an Anti-White? Why do you want to Exterminate the White Race through Massmigration of Non-Whites into White countries?
''Human rights'', ''democracy'' are Anti-White ideas pushed by the U.S/EU/NATO to Exterminate the White Race through Massmigration of Non-Whites into White countries
Luis Lewis
Based Swede of the day
Chase Barnes
Kill yourself Burger.
Dylan Richardson
>Should promoting human rights, democracy and rule of law be banned?
HAHAHAH Jesus Christ, check out that shill.
Matthew Foster
what happened to pol in 2015? I arrived last october btw
Landon Morgan
People don't know it's rigged? I remember hearing the same thing last year when there was some sort of "technical difficulty" when the votes were being tallied and Russia was about to win, then suddenly out of nowhere Russia lost.
Last year was also the first time I had ever even heard of Eurovision, but apparently it's a big deal. European media is more overtly propagandistic to me (even more blatant than American media), so none of this is surprising. A dude with a beard who dresses like a woman won last year. Such obvious social-engineering at play.
Colton Harris
>I remember hearing the same thing last year when there was some sort of "technical difficulty" when the votes were being tallied and Russia was about to win, then suddenly out of nowhere Russia lost. Yep, I remember this when you mention it now. Similar things happened this time around, Denmark (and probably other countries too) accidently gave 12 points to Ukraine when they should've received 0.
See
Kevin Walker
No one cares about Eurovision desu
Easton Richardson
Did I mention anything about Ukraine? I'm saying that I remember you throwing tantrums for days at a time on both 8 and 4pol, then calling everybody who didn't agree with you a paid shill. You take the internet far too seriously.
Nathaniel Foster
Yes, people do. Alot of people do, too many people do, which is why intelligent people who care about the future have to consider it, and why some russian Duma deputy analyzie it and rightfully state that Ukraine's victory in Eurovision 2016 is pure propaganda and nothing else.
Easton Gomez
You're whining about someone you claim is whining, you're pathethic.
Gabriel Foster
What the fuck is eurovision. Nobody cares about eurofag faggotry
Wyatt King
Human rights and democracy predate the US, EU, and NATO.
Carson Phillips
See The ''nobody'' you're refering to (people on Sup Forums) don't constitute the majority of Europes population (which is the target demographic of the Eurovision Propaganda Contest). The idea is to affect public opinion according to the propaganda needs of the U.S/EU/NATO.
Bentley Brown
nice blog
Jack Gonzalez
Actually they don't. The thing you think is ''democracy'' in ancient greece would be considered tyrannical patriarchal fascism in 2016.
''Human rights'', much like the phrase ''6 million jews'', is a meme-phrase that doesn't mean anything concrete. It's used to justify pushing anti-white legislation in white countries.
Nathan Lewis
>alot of people do A lot of people care about reality TV shows Who cares lad?
Youre way too into this shit Also anyone with half a brain realizes any entertainment with multiple countries is rigged especially when it's something like Eurovision
You seem a bit obsessed with a song competition desu The Olympics are also propaganda
Anthony Nelson
Sup Forums harbor event last year was pretty much when the j00s took over.
M00t quit Sup Forums shortly after that particular happening, and all antisemitic threats - and even the merchant memes - all but disappeared after that. There has been constant censorship since then, new threads with real redpill material get pushed into the archive long before they slide out of the catalogue.
Austin Hill
They do. You can believe what you believe without being silly.
Elijah Murphy
I'm not whining, I'm just remarking on your return to Sup Forums after you claimed that we're all brainwashed/shills/jews/NATO/hohols/The gangster computer god and were unworthy of your enlightening presence.
Tshushima best day of life.
Wyatt Wilson
Of course it's a victory for them. They don't like Russia and they don't like Russia taking over Crimea. Victory for Ukraine was a small but symbolic victory for them that will hopefully bring the whole Crimea thing back into discussion.
Human rights, democracy and rule of law = anti-white?
So, should promoting human rights, democracy and rule of law be banned? Are none of those things desirable? Should we seek autocratic, unaccountable power instead?
Hudson Williams
OP is a 10 on the Threat Matrix
watch out everyone
Joshua Richardson
>A lot of people care about reality TV shows >Who cares lad? You don't get it. Eurovision Song Contest has millions upon millions of people watching it, it's a hyperemotional event which affects peoples perception of reality through propaganda manipulation of emotions. That's why Eurovision is important.
Christopher Murphy
It's pretty obvious it's a sham of a contest, and it's propaganda. But why can't the reverse be true, Russia allowing mongrel to win to push anti-white sentiment to the west? If we lose, they win.
Elijah Price
Ever heard of John Locke, John Stuart Mill or Mary Wollcraftstone? They advocated liberal democracy based on individual liberties and rule of law long before the US existed. The two latter ones even advocated extending suffrage to women.
Thomas Martinez
>on your return to Sup Forums you're fantasizing about things that never occured, constructing stories about people you claim to not care about but which you evidently do.
what do you mean ''return''? What are you even talking about? Just fuck off with your underage shit.
Christopher Cooper
*Wollstonecraft, sorry.
Austin Myers
>that will hopefully bring the whole Crimea thing back into discussion. What is there to discuss about Crimea? The russian people of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia, and they did. There's no more discussion to be had on the subject, fuck off anti-white.
>So, should promoting human rights, democracy and rule of law be banned? We are the ones who stand for rule of law, you and your ilk want to flood Europe with non-white immigrants to destroy us.
> Should we seek autocratic, unaccountable power instead? That's what we've got today.
Christopher Lopez
Because you said you were leaving Sup Forums forever a few months ago since we were helpless and hopeless, oy vey. When did I say I didn't care about you? You're one of my favorite posters.
William Rogers
>caring about europoos nice try ahmed
Samuel Collins
lmao stfu swecuck, tldr bitch :)
Noah Richardson
>If we lose, they win. We're not ''the west'', stop using stupidly simple branding. ''The west'' is the anti-white puppet regimes of the U.S/EU/NATO, that seek to exterminate their own people. ''bad things'' happening to them is not ''us'' losing.
Ryan Williams
Okay. What are you trying to have said? You're a shill btw, it's abundantly clear now that you're trying to shit down the thread with pseudo- discussions.
Benjamin James
You're imagining things. I don't care about this attempt at trying to create Sup Forums-celebrities.
Henry Nguyen
But Crimean Tatars didn't. You know, the people who've lived there for centuries. That's why Ukraine winning is a small thing for them.
>We are the ones who stand for rule of law Who is we? Also, let's say you live in a corrupt country. How do you promote rule of law? Is it ok to found an NGO to promote rule of law?
Luis Barnes
>has millions upon millions of people watching it
What's their ratings again?
It still doesn't fucking matter No one on this board watches or cares about fucking Eurovision It just seems like you're making a mountain out of a molehill
It's just Eurovision It's like complaining the degeneracy of a TV show on this board Like no shit
Jason Kelly
Some more type of people overjoyed about the half-white mongrels '''victory''' thanks to the jury.
Julian Harris
You know, I remember this too. You always come back though.
I would honestly pay money to see who you really are. You are the king of all shills.
Levi Smith
This.
My parents watch this shit, even after I told them how crappy and biased it is. At least I managed to redpill them why ukraine won and how it turned into political contest now.
Fuck all the shills.
Jordan Brooks
>You know, the people who've lived there for centuries A lie > That's why Ukraine winning is a small thing for them. This is a notion pushed by anti-white western bitches working for anti-white governments in western governments. I wouldn't be surprised if the tatars are not even aware of the existence of this contest.
>Who is we? Nationalists, your polar opposite, the anti-whites.
Parker Hernandez
>claiming to know the truth about the jewish propaganda >caring about a television song contest >caring about the fake controversy surrounding it >posting about it on Sup Forums
Andrew Peterson
>Since Sup Forums was pretty much destroyed in 2015 and most of its population now consists of politically illiterate and easily manipulated retards who fall for the jewish propaganda they claim to be against,
Go on.
>So, the ''jury system'. It is a system put in place so that the Eurovision song contest can be used either as distraction to what's happening in a specific county at any one time, or to make ''political statements'' for propaganda purposes.
It always has been a propaganda piece.
What, something magically changed?
The sponsors always will defend their interests. No one invests for nothing.
If Russia is unable to use the event to their advantage, or to produce an equivalent, well, it is not the audience fault that they are incompetent.
Adam Wood
Okay listen up child. I hate the Eurovision, I don't want it to exist because it's nothing but faggot degenerate shit. But the reality of our world forces us who care about it to recognize its existence, and respond to the attempt to use it as a propanda ploy to further the agenda of the U.S/EU/NATO, that is what this thread is about. Explaining to people on this board that the U.S/EU/NATO subverted Eurovision when they installed their ''juries'' which now decide over 50% of the vote, virtually deciding who wins and loses.
John Parker
We are the second fastest board behind Sup Forums, what are you on about?
Nicholas White
I'm a king of all shills? I'm not even a shill, YOU are a shill, abundantly obvious from the fact that you're trying to shit down the thread with nonsense posts and now trying to claim I ''had a temper tantrum and decided to leave Sup Forums'', when would this have happened? Why do you care so much?
>I would honestly pay money to see who you really are Of course your masters would love to know who I am.
Owen Sullivan
>autism Maybe you should focus on purging the somalis instead of sperging retarded shit?
Robert Powell
>A lie The Crimean Tatars emerged as a nation at the time of the Crimean Khanate, an Ottoman vassal state during the 15th to 18th centuries and one of the great centers of slave trade to the Ottoman Empire. t. wikipedia
>This is a notion pushed by anti-white western bitches working for anti-white governments in western governments. I wouldn't be surprised if the tatars are not even aware of the existence of this contest. You are a Crimean Tatar who doesn't like Russia. Ukraine, a country that you support just barely won the Eurovision song contest, giving a giant slap to Russia's face. Of course you're happy. You hope that this might cast a spotlight on Crimea's situation again.
Is this really an absurd possibility? Also, you seem to think that Crimea is Congo Basin with no internet, TV or communications of any kind except donkey post that comes twice a year. I can tell you Crimeans are aware of Eurovision.
Liam Kelly
>What, something magically changed? Yes, since the introduction of the jury, 50% of the votes are decided by a handpicked jury. Before the jury, 100% of the votes were decided by the viewers.
>muh Eurovision Came here to say that nobody cares, and that you're a faggot for whining about musicals.
Oliver Carter
>retarded shit? This is not ''retarded shit'', this is important things because as I said here: the eurovision song contest is used for emotional propaganda to affect the masses perception of reality.
Just look at the images I've posted: All official channels in western Europe are doing everything in their power to use this precisely for the reason the U.S/EU/NATO decided to have Ukraine participate with that song and to win the whole thing, they're using it to affect the western publics perception of reality and public opinion.
Eli Perry
You seem to have some very hard to find threads and posts readily available to be posted on a moments notice. You seem completely obsessed with me, and now you're trying to create a discussion out of .. I don't even remember how we got here?
What are you doing?
Jordan Thompson
>nobody cares >nobody cares >nobody cares
The shills seem to have arrived.
Isaiah Thomas
>Euro music contests >Not retarded I used two search terms that you can look up and see for yourself: "Posters you recognize" since I go to these threads to try and find a finn from an IRC channel I frequented, and "swede russia" since you tend to fly off the handle about russia. Here's another, Mr. Dec. archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/69702796/#69705907 >Yurop >Relevant Speak up, it's hard to hear you over all those "refugees" and a few thousand miles of ocean.
Henry Peterson
Is American Idol safe?
Brayden James
>The Crimean Tatars emerged as a nation at the time of the Crimean Khanate, an Ottoman vassal state during the 15th to 18th centuries and one of the great centers of slave trade to the Ottoman Empire. t. wikipedia So in other words, they're not a native population. Which you were claiming they are.
You're also now doing precisely what I'd expect from the CIA. You're claiming I've posted things I haven't, so let's go through each and every one of your lies about what I'm saying in detail:
> Also, you seem to think that Crimea is Congo Basin with no internet, TV or communications of any kind except donkey post that comes twice a year. No, I wrote: >I wouldn't be surprised if the tatars are not even aware of the existence of this contest. That's because the tatars try to live as traditionally as possible. If you knew anything about the people you pretend to care so much about, you'd know this. But they're nothing but a propaganda tool for the globalist likes of you and your ilk.
>I can tell you Crimeans are aware of Eurovision. There's no people known as ''crimeans'', there are russians in Crimea, and some tatars. That's like saying ''ukrainians'', which also don't exist, or ''poles'' because the land is called Poland, which is not true, the land is named after the people, the polish people. There's no ''crimean ethnicity''.
Bentley Nelson
>>Euro music contests >>Not retarded Are you twelve years old? What does it matter if it is or isn't ''retarded''? Yes it is, I hate it. But that doesn't mean it's not important, it IS important beacuse OTHER PEOPLE use it.
Jesus christ, do I have to explain this basic stuff?
Imagine you're a king leading a medieval army. You're going to meet your enemy in a nearby field. Your armys water supply is running low, you're next to a lake. The lake is shaped like a dick and you think it's retarded. You see the enemy, whose water supply is also low, using the lake. Do you not use the lake because ''it's retarded''? What kind of stupid shit is this?
>since you tend to fly off the handle about russia. Nice say of misrepresenting someone who simply exposes shills, and participates in political discussions which involves Russia without parroting U.S/EU/NATO propaganda.
>>Yurop >Relevant Are you twelve?
James Perry
>major european media outlets are using pro-europe propaganda
HOLY FUCK ALERT THE TOWNSPEOPLE
Robert Miller
>>caring about a television song contest This is such a childish sentence. I don't ''care'' because I like it, I am forced to react and recognize it because alot of people like it and care about it. Just like I am forced to actually have to do something about the ongoing extermination of my race, because it is reality and is happening, just like Eurovision is used for propaganda, BY the people who are attempting to exterminate the white race.
David Butler
What the fuck are you trying to say?
Noah Carter
>So in other words, they're not a native population I didn't claim that they were native. Here's what I wrote: >You know, the people who've lived there for centuries
I did not say they were native. I just said that they have lived there for centuries.
At what point does one become a native though? If there are Crimean Tatars who have lived there since the 14th century, aren't they native? If they're not, then I guess Hungarians , Finns or Estonians are not native to Europe either. HUNGARIAN GENOCIDE WHEN?
Mason Green
>exposes shills Please. As soon as anybody disagrees with you, they're a shill. > Imagine you're a king leading a medieval army. You're going to meet your enemy in a nearby field. Your armys water supply is running low, you're next to a lake. The lake is shaped like a dick and you think it's retarded. You see the enemy, whose water supply is also low, using the lake. Do you not use the lake because ''it's retarded''? What kind of stupid shit is this? It's a music contest, not a war. >Nice say of misrepresenting someone who simply exposes shills, and participates in political discussions which involves Russia without parroting U.S/EU/NATO propaganda. (44) >Are you twelve? Are you incapable of detecting sarcasm? brb a few minutes, Herschel from the JIDF is coming over with my shill payout.
TLDR: >My sorrow is like the jewish peoples sorrow about the Holocaust!
>People are worried about HBTQ people in Ukraine, will they feel safe? >Of course they will!
Oliver Wilson
>I did not say they were native. I just said that they have lived there for centuries. Just like russians then. So no point in pointing that out, beacuse it doesn't mean anything if other peoples in the same area have also lived there for centuries.
