How many of you lolicons are actually only attracted to 2D lolis? I find it hard to believe.
There's nothing wrong with finding younger girls attractive as long as you're not harming them, right?
Wrong?
Discuss which is better or start a war for all I care, as long as your posting those lolis. (only the 2D kind. no cp)
bait, but ill bite...
>How many of you lolicons are actually only attracted to 2D lolis? I find it hard to believe.
well, i dont fuckin care what others believe, i think little kids are annoying, but i luv me my hentai and ecchi
people can be two dimensional if you close one eye because then you have no depth perception and if you live life one moment at a time then every frame your eye captures is its own individual 2D image, just a lot of them. at least that's how I always justify it.
I like lolis and shotas but hate kids
>as long as your posting those lolis. sorry, on my main so i don't save porn.
>How many of you lolicons are actually only attracted to 2D lolis?
children in real life arent as endearing as 2d ones. the art style aids that.
>There's nothing wrong with finding younger girls attractive as long as you're not harming them
yep. pedos cant help the fact they are born with that desire. the best they can do is not harm them.
Bait? In what way? I'm genuinely think it'll make for interesting discussion.
Whether you find kids annoying or not has nothing to do with if you find them physically attractive.
I'd never date a kid, nor think they should be exposed to sexual abuse, but they -can- be attractive.
Not even into loli, but 2D > 3D in my opinion.
Sure, some real life pussy would be nice, but as long as i don't get one i will exclusively fap to 2D.
>I'd never date a kid, nor think they should be exposed to sexual abuse
nah, i think children should be exposed to sexual abuse. if you were meant to be saying u dont think children should be exposed to anything sexual, i disagree. exposing children to shit at an early age only prepares them. if is something sexual that involves an adult, however, then i would say the young one in question should have to be physically and mentally developed, which is kinda hard to determine which is why we say "wait until 18".
and sure, children can be attractive. anyone who says otherwise are lying.
Many miscers wont believe me but here i go
I used to be a pedo in the past attracted to 2d lolis and 3d ones, the suffering was such i had to attend dsrk magic to get along with that, now i can say im healed totally
>used to be a pedo
nigger, fuck off.
What
I honestly wasn't attracted to the idea of lolis until I read Nabokov's Lolita in college.
I guess I'm big into massive power differences between me and the sexual Other. I also likes JM Coetzee's Barbarians, but there's no Nabokovian poetics.
It seems like a cop-out to blame literature, but it really was the first time I felt that urge.
I agree to an extent. Sheltering kids from anything makes them less able to handle it as they discover it for themselves. Sexuality is no different.
The problem is that that children are easy to take advantage of, so you do need rules to prevent that.
i think general entertainment like video games, books, movies, etc can assist in that regard. the movie isnt going to manipulate a child and rape it; it's harmless. so i find it annoying when parents prevent their kids from enjoying whatever they want to consume. thats why we got a generation of fucking beta males and femtards.
>power difference
There's a ton of short girls out there. Just got to find one and talk to her. Also if that doesn't work out, there's always manlets and desperate girls.
For me it was completely different. I was always into lolis. (I was one perverted ass kid).
It started off just being attracted to girls my age, but I never became unattracted to girls of that age. My attraction age range just expanded as I grew older.
I'm still attracted to girls my age, so I'm not an exclusively into loli shit. Couldn't imagine how bad that must suck for those who are, though.
I have spells of being attracted to children. Some days they're disgusting, some days not so much.
That being said, it's entirely visual attraction. If I spend one second with a kid I am immediately turned off by their personality. On top of that, I would never in a million years actually do anything with a real child. That shit can permanently fuck their brains.
im still trying to determine if im attracted to the actual loli or just the taboo. i love incest, but mainly because it isnt accepted by anyone. i feel like if incest was generally accepted by society, it wouldnt turn me on.
Wow. A vaguely intellegent thread on
/b.
have you ever seen a real child? they are fuckin disgusting and retarded as well
I feel this way about a ton of shit, too. Sometimes what actually gets me off on lolis and stuff like lolis is the taboo of the thing
This desu.
Real children are fucking ugly and anyone who likes them is a degenerate.
Lolis are basically a very petite anime women.
I have a little sister, about 6 years old. I'm not attracted to her. I'd rather kms than fuck her. Same goes with any other kid.
>inb4 why dont you just kill yourself now
I look at loli hentai cuz it's more common than 'petite hentai'. Not because I find toddlers and babies attractive/sexy.
Lol you can't change your sexual orientation, silly
i obviously wont pin the taboo aspect as the primary reason. children posses alot of trait i love.
they are petite, innocent, pure, fragile, etc. i just think it extends into attraction because of the taboo... maybe.
I can understand just seeing lolis as "very petite" woman, but claiming all kids are disgusting just sounds like a closet gay telling himself dicks are disgusting.
You don't need to be sexually attracted to kids to find them cute, and you're lying if you think someone doesn't turn cute until the second they hit 18.
I love lolis. Not attracted to little girls and I seriously doubt most lolicons are. Not on any sense of morals or principles though. 2D characters look nothing like real life humans. It's like comparing real women to anime characters, they're nothing alike and kids are the same.
I kind of get that. I know it's not just taboo for me, but if find children as attractive as girls my age, then why do I primarily fap to loli shit?
That part is the taboo.
Lolis look like femboys to me. Maybe y'all are just secretly gay and want a cute skinny femboy to fuck?
I try to explain this simple fucking concept to my group of "friends".
Liking beings with vaginas and no dicks makes us gay?
By that logic traps aren't gay, right?
I can't argue with that. I do the same.
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I get that people claim this all the time with both loli and just normal 2D girls, but personally I can't understand it myself.
I've always seen anime and real people as interchangeable. You can have a real life version of an anime character, and an anime version of a real life person.
Remember: it's only gay if balls touch.
Fucking 3D women us the fucking height if faggotry you absolute fucking newfag fucking leave
3DPD is worthless compared to the perfection of glorious 2D loli waifus
Needs more loli in here.
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That physically hurt to read. Thank you.
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Nope. I vastly prefer hentai over (what do you even call it) live action porn? The style literally is the only reason. Its very exaggerated and can be very versatile, so it appeals to many of my tastes. I'm sorry, but I cannot ever see anime and reality as interchangeable.
I spose you think this isn't gay then because they're "beings with vaginas"
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This thread is making me feel better about liking loli.
I've always kind of thought that liking it made me just as much of a sick degenerate as somebody who actually harms real children because that's how I assumed everyone else saw it.
Just because anime characters don't look 100% human doesn't mean your brain doesn't perceive them as humans.
Look what i just drew - what does it look like? That's right - a human, even though physically humans are very different from this sketch you correctly recognized it.
Therefore i conclude that the assumption that being into anime (or any sub genre of it) doesn't exclude the 3D interpretation. You just pretend to yourself that it's just lines on paper so that you ca feel less bad about it when you blow a load to that loli rape doujin, but in reality your brain translates "these lines on paper" to pictures of rape.
Dont get me wrong: I see it as what it is, a victimless crime, but you're lying to yourself if you say this has absolutely no connection to humans.
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tbh I want a mind like Elon Musk in the body of a teenage girl
actual females and especially young ones are repulsively idiotic
I fantasize about "lolis" on the older side who follow the 1000 year old spirit meme and are intelligent and wise beyond measure, I don't think that whole bit is just to get around "must be 18+" Japanese media requirements
I don't think it was user's intention to imply that he doesnt think of lolis as representing a human being, but rather that lolis are an exaggerated form of children, and that you can be attracted to one and not the other because one is attractive (curves, etc.) and one isn't.
That's fucking hot. Now draw it again fucking a bigger stick figure pls
You should start thinking for yourself and not take everyone elses opinion as gospel. I was the same: I thought liking loli porn made me some degenerate sicko. I then thought about the subject for 2 seconds.
If you like it as an alternative to satisfy your pedophilic urges, that's great. It will prevent you from harming an actual child.
If you just like it in itself, then you merely like the style and artwork. What's wrong about that? Literally nothing.
Little kids are fucking disgusting.
Lolis are something completely different.
Well if that were true he'd be into people with gigant tumors in their heads inflating them to anime proportions.
>protip: he isn't
Drawings use abstractions and exagerrations, but they are still translated to normal human proportions in your head.
Hey could you draw some qt lolis pissing on each other in this style?
Elon Musk is kind of a cunt. Don't get me wrong - he's incredibly smart, and I respect him a ton myself. But his nickname is "nanomanager" for a reason.
Checked and posted
You're trying way too hard to make up a defense for a point never made.
I don't think i have a reaction picture that can give that comment justice.
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Nah children piss me off, I have no problem discerning artwork from reality. People who would actually endanger children are fucking sick, they deserve to be able to have normal lives.
That said, and on the other hand despite this thread being a honeypot, I think people who try to scapegoat animated porn are idiotic and degenerate in their own right for not being able to discern reality from animated 2d girls. Of whom cant be touched, talked to, interacted with, violated, or hurt by the viewer because they simply DON'T EXIST.
Who hurt you?
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Elon Musk is the biggest fucking idiot when it comes to relationships.
You'd probably have something more meaningful with the average teenage girl. I get what you're trying to say, though.
There are plenty of girls 12-16 who are wiser and more responsible than most older woman, but even then I'd feel like I'm doing something wrong dating them.
For me it would only be okay if the girl was literally older than her body mentally. But that's impossible in real life.
With current technology, at least.
Real little girls can't look like 2D ones, that's their major flaw. Pic related is my favorite loli because she has way more knowledge than real kids around her age even though she can be a little annoying sometimes.
Similar to people who sexualise every action. The man who bathed nude with his daughter. it was harmless yet people berated him for it. I think it says alot more about the person who takes issue with it than the other.
Well he said the following:
>"2D characters look nothing like real life humans. It's like comparing real women to anime characters, they're nothing alike and kids are the same."
Please enlighten me what he could have meant by that.
I can tell you exactly what I meant by it.
2D>3D.
Lol look up buck angel you autist. Ftm pornstars exist
When it comes to looks, I have to disagree. There are plenty of girls who can look as good and often better than most lolis, they're just a lot more rare. Just like any good looking character in anime. It's easy to make everyone look cute.
I'd post a (fully clothed) example, but people and mods here freak out way easier than they used to back in the day.
Well and i'm here to tell you that while you might even actually believe that, you're lying to yourself because human perception ignores abstractions like i proved above somewhere.
Your statements sound a lot like these "Ask a straight man who sucked off a guy from craigslist" - kinda threads.
go to 8ch then
aslong as the child isnt performing a sexual gesture or action is should be fine. if a moderator fucks the thread, thats even more reason to leave Sup Forums.
How would you do things differently in his shoes?
My type is autistic girls so I think Elonloli would work fine.
In reality I'll probably just date someone 10 years younger than me once they're of age because the next generation should have a leg up on my millennial peers.
Gotta agree with this. Your brain sees a drawing of a human as a human, not as something entirely different.
Everyone can obviously tell the difference between drawn and real, though. If you think people can't tell the difference between them because they see them as interchangeable, you're a fucking idiot.
>In reality I'll probably just date someone 10 years younger than me
u have to either be rick and attract sluts, or charming to attract decent ones. goodluck with both.
You got me there pal-ey, you sure know your Ftm pornstars.
No I mean Elon musk doesn't have the slightest idea how relationships work. He doesn't know the difference between sexual attraction and love. That's usually something common with children that they eventually grow out of.
Look into his love life if you're curious.
I didn't say I'd do it differently, nor that I'd be capable of doing what he's doing. I'm not.
Doesn't mean his personality was meant for interpersonal relationships. Similar to how great painters are normally outcasts, great warlords make pretty shit fathers and husbands, and great musicians are emotionally unstable.
Great scientists are generally just a bit cunty, and he's not really an exception.
I wouldn't necessarily say you see them as human, just that you see familiar traits. People loves furry porn, but I wouldnt necessarily call them human.
Well even if there was someone really cute, she would also need to like me. And they would need to be taught everything about sex etc and that they completely understood it.
It's also boring that hair cannot naturally be every color. 2D can look much more diversive I think.
Thanks
I think I'll have an easy enough time based on a number of factors.
Good points, perhaps I'm looking for a more emotionally mature Elonloli then.
>inb4 linux kernel devs
I guess you're right. It isn't sexual, it's just really fucking cute. There's no crime in being cute, right?
Be into adorable lolis, yet call her disgusting. Do it, ya lying cunt.
Well most furries don't fap to real animals though. The average furry is highly humanized, and while the animal part is a critical one, it's not the dominant one.
On the other hand furries have a tendency to go full degenerate and to drop all humanity in themselves, so in these cases i'd agree that there's less human and more highly specific fetish stuff.
>I think I'll have an easy enough time based on a number of factors.
What are these factors, user?
That image definitely proves children can be attractive. If anyone says otherwise they are literal fucking liars.
I think the human traits play an aspect into making something more attractive, similar to anime. Anime characters have unrealistic proportions that look appealing due to the fact it's animated. Its exaggerated and versatile.
ok I will be honest here!
I know there is something wrong with me as well!
It all started when I was a moderator on Direct Connect many years back. I found CP! First I got disgusted by it. Then it started to make me curios! Do these kids all get raped or does some of them like it?
I know they "learn" to like it so none of them really like getting fucked.
But it started to turn me on! A small pussy and a big dick! Will it fit etc etc!
But Loli is just fiction! No one is getting hurt!
I always report CP! And I would never cross that line. I know right from wrong!
And I am also attracted to grown women so I don´t need kids like maybe other do.
The only way I can 'realistically' see that possible is with some kind of advanced technology.
I believe one day the technology will get to the point where we can customize our looks, age and de-age. Even if those bodies are synthetic.
If we live long enough to reach imortality, we may see it.
I know plenty of girls who would rather rewind their bodies back to a loli-age.
The only problem is in this future world, I doubt we'd be able to see fat fucks fucking the immortal lolis. Sad.
>Do these kids all get raped or does some of them like it?
>A small pussy and a big dick! Will it fit etc etc!
pondering questions like this it a major contribution to my turn on. are these children kidnapped? what could a child possibly comprehend about this situation? what does it think is happening? is it pleasurable?
the idea that there are underground sex rings with patricians and politicians all participating in an orgy with this petite small thing that doesnt even understand the concept of sex is fascinating.
ITT: indenial pedophiles.
top percentile intelligence
top percentile wealth (self-made)
glibness with actual substance behind it
irregular preferences (hence less competition)
have attracted way more women than I've wanted anything to do with since learning how to not be a complete assburger, I think owing to being best in class for the romanticized outsider type
probably going to end up being in a second coveted minority between my political leanings, expectations on how the next generation will split, and that I'll be one of the few guys in my age bracket who specifically go after women that much younger.
By the time that's possible at any real scale I doubt I'll still be human by typical definitions.
you sound insufferable tbh
I have the same stance. I know I can find younger girls attractive, but I wouldn't cross the line. I'm not okay with anyone being hurt.
You wondered if "some of them like it?" but the truth of that has always been apparent to me, because I was a fucking pervert when I was a kid. I knew what I wanted. puberty calmed me down if anything.
That still doesn't make it right, though, because even if they like it, it will still fuck with their future and what they decide to do with their life.
I like cartoon little girls like in anime but cant stand actual little girls. I guess I prefer my little girls when they dont exist
Half people here are completely open about being pedophiles and just agreeing that they'd never want real children harmed or sexually exploited, though.
Damn, congrats , user. Please use these attributes to normalise the distaste people have with age differences.
I just wish I wasn't autistic. I fucking hate socialising.
so want an adult guy mind at a loli body?
Tanya Degurechaff is your call
First step is to admit it! Only then can you really make a change. So why is that a bad thing?
Translation: I'm a fat NEET neckbeard that loves Trump.
I'm not saying it is a bad thing, though. As long as you're not acting on it, of course.
I don't ever see how 3D could compete with 2D.