Nothing held up, be truthful to yourself and realize this; a classic has no flaws whatsoever and any project in the last 10 years possess them. A further issue is the vacuum of excitement that mediocre or just simply 'good' and not excellent projects gain. There always has to be a huge project to capture peoples excitement with at the end of every year, and this has lead to much more blatant critic bait in every sense of the word. People who simply aren't as passionate about topics that they would like to be discussing them for clout and reverence.
Everything became the music version of 12 years a slave because these artists know that if the music spoke for itself nobody would give a shit and would judge it for what it is.
This isn't just a "social current issues invaded my music and i hate it" thread, it's the lack of passion that gets rewarded for things like that, that i find an issue. It's hilarious how natural this used to be done, Bowie and Prince and the likes had talent oozing out whilst sharing their views, everything today just feels like childplay in comparison yet is actually getting rewarded; this is why music is so easy to forget nowadays.
>a classic has no flaws whatsoever Stopped reading there.
Adrian Watson
>this is why music is so easy to forget nowadays. Stopped reading there.
Ethan Hernandez
In b4 "but there was tons of bad music in the past it was just forgotten and only the good stuff was remembered xD"
Camden Hughes
How the fuck can anything be considered a classic less than 10 years after it's been released? Music, or anything really, needs some time to sink in before you can call it a classic.
Eli Miller
This is true though.
Lucas Jackson
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Gabriel Nguyen
benji
Zachary Lee
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Eli Wood
Whether you like it or not has no bearing on its classic status. I don't like TPAB or MBDTF for example but they will definitely go down as classics in the genre of hip-hop
Ian Smith
>TPAB >not GKMC go home pitchfork drone
Juan Parker
I don't care about Kendrick, TPAB is the one I see posted more often. They'll both probably be considered classics anyway
Aiden Roberts
This album is 10/10 and deserves to be a classic, but sadly I don't think it will become one
Julian Cox
It's sort of true, but factors such as the difficult nature of funding, recording, and distribution, plus highly profitable record labels gave music a level of quality control both on the mainstream and independent level, that has gone out the window. There is without a doubt more garbage being produced than ever on account of the barrier to entry being lower than ever.
This shitty argument also fallaciously assumes that only good music is remembered and only bad music is forgotten. There are an endless number of forgotten composers from the baroque era, indistinguishable from Bach and Händel, at least to the layman, if you take care to look into the music of the era (Franz Benda, Giovanni Platti, Johann David Heinechen, Johann Adolph Hasse, etc.).
Chase Scott
in my heart it will always be a huge classic :-)
Jackson Mitchell
thats all that matters!
Charles Nguyen
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Xavier King
sounds like you're just getting old OP. bound to happen eventually.
Nolan Butler
If a classic has no flaws, there are no classics. Simple as. Everything is flawed to at least someone, and that to me makes art art. An album that's pure silence for half an hour is technically a perfect album, with no flaws. That doesn't make it good, it doesn't venture anywhere it just stays still. Any album that explores some sound whatsoever has flaws.
Julian Nelson
Kinda confused by this. P4k gave GKMC a higher rating than TPAB.
Blake Sullivan
>An album that's pure silence for half an hour is technically a perfect album
Isaac Collins
have one on me
Ian Brown
melodrama will be a classic screencap this
Adrian Sanchez
came out 10 years, 8 months ago.
checkmate
Alexander Bailey
you daft cunt
Julian Lee
Hint: maybe a classic does exist but you haven't heard it yet because it lacks promotion and indie hype.
Aaron Watson
>Hint: maybe a classic does exist but you haven't heard it yet because it lacks promotion and indie hype. How is that supposed to help anyone?
Jonathan Ward
How new are you? It means you might have to look beyond what gets promoted and hyped up to find a classic.
Kevin Jones
>It means you might have to look beyond what gets promoted and hyped up to find a classic. You're still talking hypotheticals. Name of these hidden gems.
Asher Edwards
Wrong, it can't be a classic if it didn't have a massive cultural impact.
Jace Thomas
lol what is Vu & nico
idiot
Kevin Ortiz
>idiot
James Ward
>is an outstanding example of a particular style; something of lasting worth or with a timeless quality; of the first or highest quality, class, or rank – something that exemplifies its class. The word can be an adjective (a classic car) or a noun (a classic of English literature). It denotes a particular quality in art, architecture, literature, design, technology, or other cultural artifacts. In commerce, products are named 'classic' to denote a long-standing popular version or model, to distinguish it from a newer variety. Exmillitary Helplessness Blues Good Kid M.A.A.D. City To Be Kind MBDTF In Rainbows Person Pitch Sound of Silver Untrue Merriweather Post Pavilion
And I bet I'm missing some other greater examples
Ryan Green
>Helplessness Blues >Person Pitch >Sound of Silver
Zachary Bailey
Why dont you just post in r/indieheads?
Samuel Nguyen
>spoonfeed me No, you'll be a drone your whole life if you let others decide the canon for you.
Charles Miller
>No, you'll be a drone your whole life if you let others decide the canon for you. I'm not asking you to decide canon for me, I'm asking you what these hypothetical classics are since you're having trouble naming them.
If an album can have something this plain on it and be a classic, then sure I guess there's thousands of classic albums in the last 10 years
Jordan Hernandez
>plain Not hearing it, raise me a classic or explain
Xavier Torres
He's fucking with you because you keep begging to be spoonfed, you autist
Joseph Sanchez
>raise me a classic Are you confused? The whole point of this thread is that there are no modern (~10 year) classics.
James Cooper
>He's fucking with you because you keep begging to be spoonfed, you autist When did I ask to be spoonfed?
Brayden Clark
What was the last classic album?
Henry Walker
Hybrid Theory and Meteora will stand the test of time.
Adam Anderson
The barrier to entry is having a big circle of friends and access to moving them. God forbid label owners and concert promotions do their jobs, so the artist is relied on to do the job of songwriter, performer, producer, graphic artist, concert promoter, web designer, distribute and social media wizard who's go the scoop.
If you don't have the financial or human capital to delegate all of these tasks yourself, you don't even have a point of entry.
The fact remains that all of the canonic rock stars from yesteryear (the so-called golden age of the recording industry) were rudimentary in ability at best, their songs almost completely reliant on context (as opposed to universally appealing musical ideas and lyrical themes) and the music not even fun to dance to.
Thomas Taylor
not him/her but this is my vote
Aaron Sullivan
epic epic epic oh my god im literally screaming *laughing face with tears emoji*
Connor Taylor
what the fuck
Isaiah Long
I'm not joking but ok.
Hunter Carter
sorry but your post is wrong
Noah Roberts
2 WORDS
IN
RAINBOWS
Aaron Lee
Those two didn't even stand the years they came out in.
Owen Watson
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Mason Williams
another example
Ian Turner
and another
Sebastian Rodriguez
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Joseph Bell
hi resident advisor
Carter Hughes
if this isnt a classic i dont know what the fuck is
Andrew Carter
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Jordan Watson
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Tyler Perez
Sound of Silver is one with the biggest potencial to become a classic there, and Helplessness Blues is one of the best prog folk albums in decades, you're a fucking pleb
Joseph Bell
>tfw people think they know what people in the future will like lel
Jordan Scott
>Helplessness Blues >prog folk Can you at least pretend to know what you're talking about?
Michael Hall
12 years
Ayden Nguyen
Dude, Where's Your Argument?
Wyatt Kelly
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Jose Davis
>Dude, Where's Your Argument? Burden of proof is on you. In what world is Fleet Foxes 'prog folk'?
Josiah Martinez
H-has it really been this long user?
Jack Collins
omfg you're comment was lit asf user im dead
Parker Martinez
>assuming I'm the person you're responding to helloooooo reddit
Asher Nelson
It doesn't matter if you're the person I'm replying to, burden of proof still isn't on me.
And no one pays any attention to the new sea of garbage (depending on your definition of garbage). None of the thousands of trash wannabe producers and struggle rappers will ever come close to being relevant, and even the most popular soundcloud fuckboys like X and lil pump will be forgotten in a year at most.
And if the overall quality of the music industry is so important to you, why not get involved yourself? Make music if you can, market for really good artists that you want to hear more of, etc.
Chase Hernandez
a big yes to both of these.
Benjamin Martinez
This. OP will forever be a faggot.
Jaxon Watson
Ok. So things are considered classics due to the passage of time and how their quality trancends time. Classics are based on how influential they are to artists around that time as well.
Ethan Johnson
whew im glad i have a sense of harmony
Anthony Torres
In hiphop My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Kendrick TPAB is contrived shit due to the societal atmosphere. Literal fucking meme shit it's so bad.
In rock Swans - To be Kind/The Seer/The Glowing Man
In pop Carly Rae Jepsen - EMOTION, Jai Pauls leaked album, Animal collective
In indie Cloud Nothings Attack on Memory and whatever else fills this shit genre
In country sturgil and jason isbell. Anything Jason Isbell has done this decade is great. Doesn't get enough exposure.
Colton Rodriguez
Cool opinion
Nolan Jones
>thinks indie is a genre and then mentions a punk album
Jeremiah Bell
>thinks indie isn't a genre ??
Anyway here's the only classic modern punk album.
Samuel Taylor
its ok high is better but maybe not punk viet cong is a stone cold classic though
Owen Fisher
>high What's that?
Jordan Cooper
VU&Nico did have a massive cultural impact eventually.
As much as you may not care for it, this has become a classic due to it's meme status.
Ryder Young
i tend to think all of indie is just indie rock. Which is why i listed Cloud Nothings. And i think you listed said Veit Cong. Which another great album
Xavier Thompson
gad damnit TPAB was shit
Gabriel Smith
what is the last album you consider to be a classic
Austin Sanchez
>There Stopped reading there.
Michael Sanders
i saw them a few weeks ago at a tiny club. they were working their own merch booth. a very small crowd stayed after and they talked to everybody.
its sad that they aren't a bigger deal.
Jackson Young
>There hasn't been an actual classic across any genre in the last 10 years.
Xavier Lopez
i really think this will be remembered as a classic
