I'm an exMuslim. Ask me anything, especially Muslims

I'm an exMuslim. Ask me anything, especially Muslims.

I live in the Muslim world.

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How much longer until they kill you for apostasy?

What disenchanted you from this religion?

how many people did u blow up

I know, baby. Its liberating.

If a mob were to know, it would be immediate. Most people including family don't know im an apostate.

Well I used to read about other religions, living and dead, as a kid. Loved mythology, but I knew it was just a story. I guess I always saw my own religion as that, but I did allthe rituals because if I didn't my mother would get pissed off.

Just one. Your father said I blew his mind in bed.

How old are you ?

Have you done the Hajj yet? If not, what was your impression of it through those who have?

How devout is your family? If there were other apostates in your family who came out, how were they treated?

I'm 27. How about you?

Not done the hajj. Not too interested in doing it. Whats funny is a fair few women complain about being groped in the crowds. They don't often complain about it, its largely a private thing,but it seems tobe not uncommon.

As for people who go to hajj, in the context of Islam its understandable. Its a stupid waste of money but its just part of religion. It only bothers me when poor people go to hajj because its not cheap. Its a couple of thousand USD. Maybe 2 to 4k USD which could be better spent on their kids education.

My family is "moderate" aka lazy except my mother who is becoming more intense. Not angry and violent but more into prayer.

Oh I haven't come out. That wouldnt be smart. Coming out isn't an option while I live in a Muslim world.

Ok, some trivia. The Pagans used to do the hajj naked. And much of Islam is copied from many sources but most notable are Freddy Mercurys Zoroastrianism.

Ill expand if anyones interested.

Aren't you afraid to post this and not blur your face? Actual question.

OP, when did this all start? What was the tipping point?

What part of the Muslim world? Arab, Persian or something over by Malaysia/Indonesia?

>Freddy Mercury's Zoroastrianism
Am I reading this right?

I haven't asked if you intend to come out to your family; I knew you wouldn't. I want to know if you know/knew anyone who has, and what you've heard them go through.

what are your views on Saudi Arabia? The successor looks to be a bit more progressive, and it gives me hope for wider human rights.

>youtube.com/watch?v=WUOtCLOXgm8
I get the impression that your family over-all would accept you abstaining from Islam. Either way, I wish you the best in that endeavor.

Freddy Mercury's parents were from somewhere around Pakistan. They are Para, pari-somthing. He was born in England and changed his name to what it is now. I've never heard of him being religious though.

Well I don't know, I never really believed in God as a real thing. Allah was just like all the others in mythology, but I never really thought about why my mother actually believes, I was just a stupid kid. I obeyed because it was easy to.

Subcontinent. But not a pajeet.

Bismillah! We will not let you go.

Yup. Zoroastrianism was the first major monotheistic religion, well before that kike Moses. And it was around Persia and Arabia, one of Muhammads companions was an ex Zoroastrian.

There is this bridge at the end of days, and below it is hellfire. If you are good, the bridge is wide. If you sin a lot, the bridge becomes hair thin. This is in Islam, and copied from Zoroastrianism.

> I want to know if you know/knew anyone who has, and what you've heard them go through.

Well every now and then an apostate is outed in the Muslim world, and they have togo into hiding or try and leave the country.

In the West, they can get kicked out of their houses, so the exmuslim community gathers and tries to help them find shelter and all.

hi ABDUL
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One question - do you have Snapchat?

Kickass! I hope he teams up with Mahura Mazda during the End of Days.

Sounds more like an institution than a spirituality, in that case. I think that if your family really cared about your well-being, they'd discreetly help you out on safely abstaining.

Actually the last king was quite progressive, esp re womens rights, I'm not even kidding.

This new king is also more progressive and taking Saudi in the right direction.

Keep in mind, the Royal Family isn't so much the driving force in Islamizing the country, its the religious scholars/mobs. After the Iranian coup in Iran and the invasion of Afganistan in 1979, the Saudi royalty realized they werent as secure as they thought they were. Their people could revolt. So they sided with the religious fucks and the rest is history.

>I get the impression that your family over-all would accept you abstaining from Islam.

I like that you use https. Https everywhere..

My father would accept it, he doesn't care. But my mother, it would break her heart. She knows I don't pray and that deeply bothers her. I'll never tell her about my apostasy, it would hurt her bad.

Freddie Mercury was born in Tanzania, his parents were Indian Parsis from Gujarat.

Freddies birth name Farrokh Bulsara

They were refugees from Zanzibar

HOw often do you hear about the "Death to the West" stuff or the other shit that right wingers are convinced muslims want to do.

I'm guessing your admiration for Https is sarcastic.

Got any siblings? Older ones who're established and might have connections in the West?

My brother married a Muslim woman. She was 18 when they got married. They lived with us a few years later and ended up leaving like a truckload of shit our house when they moved out. Like they never even bothered to go back for it. I found some of her old childhood possessions and one was her diary she had as a kid. I figured she was maybe 10 when she had it.

One of the questions at the beginning was "What do you want for the world"

Her response was "For everyone to be a Muslim"


It was really that moment forward I moved that religion from 'religion' to 'fucking insane'

No snapchat. Why do you ask?

Ahura Mazda

>I think that if your family really cared about your well-being, they'd discreetly help you out on safely abstaining.

We are told to love Muhammad more than family. Apostasy isn't somthing imaginable to most Muslims.

"Death to America" specifically i think is outdated. But the sentiment is there. "May God destroy the West", when talking about Iraq/Afghanistan/etc.

I'm actually a Muslim but I'm really stating to pull away from it. Did you pull away just cause you never really felt it?

>I'm guessing your admiration for Https is sarcastic.

Nope, I'm serious. HTTPS everywhere is a chrome plugin that forces https whereever possible.

>Got any siblings? Older ones who're established and might have connections in the West?

Nope. Just me, the wonder child.

>Her response was "For everyone to be a Muslim"
>It was really that moment forward I moved that religion from 'religion' to 'fucking insane'

Thats what most don't understand. In the context of Islam, its reasonable and logical to want peopl to convert to Islam. Non Muslims go to hell, so they do you a favor converting you. Muhammad was a military expansionist.

so am I OP became Atheist a few years back

Thank you for the correction.

Those are relatively shitty circumstances you're in. Who has the final say in your home?

Idk what it is like I tried to pray and read the Quran but nothing has been really working for me, but the Quran is still super interesting

What is the coolest thing Islamic culture has contributed to the world, in your opinion?

Personally I enjoy Shahrazad's 1001 Nights.

>Did you pull away just cause you never really felt it?

Nope. That wouldn't be a logical reason to stop believing. What cements the apostasy is logic and evidence.

For example, the claim that not 1 dot inthe Quran has been edited or corrupted or changed by man, because Allah said he promised to protect it from corruption.

1. There are verses missing from the Quran that Umar/Uthman/Aisha talk about in sahih hadith, like the verse of Rajm/stoning.

2. Zaid ibn Thabits compilation of the Quran is iffy, as some verses were only found with one person.

3. The Prophets buddy ibn Masud rejected todays Uthmanic codex/compilation of the Quran. He had his own version with differences that Suyuti talked about. Suyuti wrote a book onthe different codices of the Quran, there are a few other notable ones.

F. On top of that, the dots/diacritics were added much later, not found in the original Qurans.

9. There are different versions of the Quran with different dots and so different words with different meanings, e,g the Hafs Quran and the Warsh Quran.

plus there is no reason to believe the Quran is the word of God. everything suggests its a man made thing.

What are you now instead of muslim? Atheist? Christian? ...

Do you have feel generally more or less at peace with the world than your religious counterparts?

Your English is too proper.

But that's the problem with it. The science that goes into the Quran that could not be proven back then has been proven today, such as the mountains being like the bottom of a fence or how embryos are or the whole entire universe

OP reads for leisure. See

what do you do for sex?

>Who has the final say in your home?

Depends on what the topic is. If its financial, my dad. If its religious, my mother. If its somthing like my marriage, it would be my mother.

The compilation of the Quran is super interesting, and Bukhari is far more interesting content wise than the Quran. It has jinn/genies, flying horses, Banu Qurayza a tribe that had 500 or so men all beheaded, including teenage boys.

Well there is Islamic culture and then there is culture and things that Muslims came up with.

What did Islam give us thats cool? Wife beating, giving women less inheritance than men, having a womans testimony worth half as much as a mans.

What did Muslims give us thats cool?

Looots. Lots of astronomy, esp navigation, things like brilliant astrolabes, I think half of stars have Arab names. Lots of great Muslim scientists because Muslims did have a lot of money for a while.

As for 101 Arabian nights, a lot of that culture is preIslamic, like genies.

I would say I'm an agnostic atheist.

Lol no. At least with fairy tales there is some peace that things will be ok in the end. With atheism there is nothing after death and all we have is humans, each other. And we aren't fair or kind or nice.

Plus im stuck in a shit country with no money.

I'm not depressed, but if i believed in Islam, i might have some hope.

I went to an English medium school, its basically my first language.

>The science that goes into the Quran that could not be proven back then has been proven today, such as the mountains being like the bottom of a fence or how embryos are or the whole entire universe

Great. You MUST explore this more. Maybe I am wrong and the Quran did show this amazing knowledge before anyone else.

Whats important is this a falsifiable statement, meaning it can be proven as true or false.

Ok, now the embryology is a great start. Keep looking. Specifically Galen.

Fuck, your circumstances make me appreciate where I'm at in life and what I got to do with it.

Have you considered getting a worker's visa for a relevant job? Do you work at all?

Galen was a Greek physician who studied embryology and came up with similar findings 400 years before Muhammad. BTW.... Galen and Muhammad both made the EXACT SAME mistake, I believe re sperm coming from behind the spine.

And "the mountains being like the bottom of a fence "

Thats not true either, mountains as pegs stabilizing the earth. Its the opposite actually, there are more earthquakes around mountain ranges due to plate techtonics.

Now heres an interesting read from the Wall street journal, but its behind a paywall. So read the 2nd link. First link is WSJ bhind a paywall, second link is the same article free.

wsj.com/articles/SB1011738146332966760

faithfreedom.org/Articles/DGolden/touting_science.htm

Please please please read that. Its quite interesting.

I use my best friend, my right hand.

Its always good to be grateful for what you have. Things arent super horrible for me, I stay quite content. I'm lower middle class, I have decent internet, I'm food secure.

Workers visa isn't going to help me. I've looked. The job situation here is messed up, I am thinking of looking into content writing, but that will be soul crushing. Writing pages for 2 bucks.

Meh, its tough in some ways, but I got one life and there is no point in passing time sad. Might as well try and be positive.

I'm healthy, things arent all that bad.

Why are people so into Islam?

Good on you, OP. I hope more sunshine comes to your life than you work for.

>Why are people so into Islam?

I have to say, as a religion its fucking great. Muhammad knew what he was doing. He made it so pervasive, that Islam seeps into every aspect of your life, what you wear, what you eatt, regular prayers, they tout it as a complete way of life, it becomes a big part of culture and ones personality.

I think scientology and Islam are up there as the two greatest religions in their own ways. Scientology has survived and thrived in a modern era and deserves props for that.

Now it does have a tiny population, they exaggerate a ton, but still. to peddle so much bullshit in todays age.

Also L Ron Hubbard was always on a ton of drugs, as per his sons interview in Playboy.

Sunshine is amazing, I strive to appreciate life and food (I cook weird new dishes sometimes), but maslows hierarchy of needs and I need money unfortunately.

Its a shitty situation :/

How to win the heart of a moderate muslim girl? I heard you've got to be dominant and stern with them.

Are there prostitutes/escorts in the country you live? Are they hot? Are they available for foreigners or for locals only?

>>How to win the heart of a moderate muslim girl? I heard you've got to be dominant and stern with them.


Don't be a stupid fuck. Be confident, not "stern". Be smart, funny, fun, interesting. That tends to be popular.

>>Are there prostitutes/escorts in the country you live? Are they hot? Are they available for foreigners or for locals only?

In the capital and the big cities, i hear of russian and chinese hookers, expensive. Never seen them but I assume they are hot. Available to anyone with money.

Fund me and ill do more exploration for you.

final bump then im gone

>I live in the Muslim world.
wtf does that mean
the land of retardation?

That it makes sense in the context of Islam is what even makes Islam that horrible