So I'm not here to go all SJW on you, I really just want your opinion. Do you honestly think that someone that looks like this belongs in the men's bathroom? I included their timeline as proof that they are really trans. It seems like you guys only go after the supposed trans women who are really just men who throw on a dress and a wig and prance around in high heels.
I mean there are plenty of trans women that you'd never guess are trans, there are also plenty of trans men that you'd never guess used to be women and the ironic thing is these people are forced to use the women's bathroom in North Carolina.
I myself have a friend who is a trans woman and she is literally indistinguishable from a normal woman. What are your thoughts pol?
>and she is literally indistinguishable from a normal woman
Then why does "she" need some kind of legislation telling "her" she can use whatever bathroom she wants?
If "she" really does pass as a woman then "she" can already use the women's restroom without a problem. It's not like they check your genitals when you go in.
Anyone who is making a big deal about this is either a useful idiot, a mentally ill tranny or a Marxist purposefully trying to attack the idea of men and women being different.
Eli Robinson
>Do you honestly think that someone that looks like this belongs in the men's bathroom? No. It belongs six feet underground.
Connor James
Is it wrong to want to looks exactly like a girl, but remain as a man?
Sort of a tranny, but still being a man who likes women?
Christopher Jenkins
IF IT PASSES IT MAY PEEPEEPOOPOO IF NOT FUCK OFF
Owen Robinson
She's still a man. Don't mess up the Lord's natural order, you'll regret.
Levi King
I literally don't give 2 fuck about who uses what bathroom and this whole situation is a perfect example of how people tunnel vision on something that is close to meaningless.
>reality is what i pretend it is what a great way to structure laws and society
such a precedent surely wont cause problems
Luke Martin
Fuck those bulldyke agitators
Xavier Ross
I mean the trans friend I mentioned is bisexual, and she's a really nice and normal person, so no not really.
Hudson Lewis
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Carson Adams
i don't think someone should be acting like this in the first place
Aiden Smith
Okay, here's my response. Trans women like my friend and the one I posted: - Look like women - Have breasts - Have vaginas - Have the hormone levels of women
Literally everything about them screams "woman" except for their sex chromosomes and their lack of ovaries or uteruses. Now, there are women who are born with XY chromosomes, but develop into women. It's true! They have testes in place of their ovaries. They look indistinguishable from women. In fact, many of them become models because they are tall and have wider than average hips. isna.org/faq/conditions/ais
We consider those people women, and they're not much rarer than transsexuals. What's the real difference?
Jaxson Powell
They do not have vaginas, they have an axe wound.
Tyler Young
I don't care beyond: A) I never use public washrooms (rarely go into the city B) If anywhere, that person should be doing it's business in a mental institution, where it belongs.
Leo James
Looks like a vagina to me senpai
Chase Williams
haha testicle skin doesnt quite pass for meat curtains but yeah pretty good.
Justin Clark
>implying more than 1% of trannies actually look passable
Anthony Morgan
Are you actually retarded? She sees herself as a woman and has basically completed the transition, therefore she would go to the girl's bathroom, not the men's.
Xavier Wilson
Thank you.
I would not care, would likely think it was a cute chick. She would catch me with my cock hanging out so I would probably smile and it would make my day.
Protip: Trans people have been using both bathrooms for decades. When is the last time they attacked or hurt anyone?
Brayden Allen
'Transgender' people are officially diagnosed with an egosyntonic mental health disorder by a psychiatrist. This mental health diagnosis is for Gender Identity Disorder/Gender Identity Syndrome/or Gender Dysphoria.
Less than .03% of the population is affected with varying degrees of GID/GIS/GD. Symptoms of this syndrome are all mental health based: depression, anxiety, unease with their bodies, suicidal thoughts, dysphoria, mood disorders, substance abuse, and a high rate of concurrent Body Dysmorphic Disorder or Body Integrity Disorder. The suicide rate of GID/GIS/GD sufferers is staggering: 20% compared to under 1% of the normal population. Both the psychiatric and medical fields recognize GID/GIS/GD as a mental health issue.
Psychiatric therapy is the foundation of their treatment, and no doctor or psychiatrist proceeds with synthetic hormones without the concurrent psychiatric therapy. The current treatment is recognized by both psychiatrists and medical doctors as moderately effective in reducing their rate of suicide, depression, anxiety, dysphoria and the other accompanying mental health symptoms of GID/GIS/GD. It should be noted that the FDA has not ever approved hormone therapy in the treatment of GID/GIS/GD.
Sexual reassignment surgery is shown to be effective in relieving these mental health symptoms short term but fails to provide relief long term. After sexual reassignment surgery, the suicide rate doubles over time, eventually reaching to 40% of all sufferers who have undergone the surgery! Since SRS is not effective long term, it is falling out of favor in the US. The US hospital that pioneered sexual reassignment surgery, Johns Hopkins, no longer will perform SRS and has outright condemned the practice.
The goal of society in helping them should be to find methods of treatment that can SUCCESSFULLY treat their condition both short and long term, REDUCING their mental health symptoms and reducing their rates of suicide - instead of increasing it.
Ryan Adams
>tfw the technology exists to make an absolute and utter beta male into a qt3.14 grill
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
Ryan Moore
transsexuality is inherently wrong people shouldn't be transsexual it's that simple
Michael Ramirez
I wonder what the inside of that is like. I mean, its not like they get wet and squeeze you...right?
*Suspiciously starts doubting FWB*
Noah Robinson
All the pelvic floor muscles are still there so yes, they would contract with orgasm and squeeze. I've heard the thai surgeons make ones that can self-lubricate.
Kevin Sanders
Do bathrooms really matter to people? It's a 2 minute interaction you make 1/5 of the times you go out. If it's an Applebee's in the middle of the day, just use the birth gender. If it's a nightclub or some progressive non-family oriented coffee shop, use your preferred gender. Want to make parent's feel like they have to accompany their kids to the bathroom? Just be cool and chill the fuck out christ
Carter Baker
If I can't tell that you're actually a dude then yeah I think you should use a woman's restroom and same for if you look like a guy
Dominic Collins
this then raises the problem where most of them think they're legitimately women/men m8. That's the whole reason why their classified as mentally ill. For every one that looks like OP, another 100 look like their natural gender. Every transwoman I've ever seen or met irl has had mad jaw game and is not even close to passable.
Kevin Gomez
all bathrooms should have stalls and be unisex
urinals are cheap capitalist garbage designed to make men shit less and encourage dick gazing
Nolan Phillips
A. They have to dialate it every day, as the body tries to close it as a wound B. It smells 10x worse than any amount of 10 year old smegma and ball sweat C. Can literally grow hair on the inside of it Fuck. Off.
Jaxson Brooks
IMO people who look like men belong in the mens, people who like like women in the womens, and people who look like both can use the gender neutral bathrooms.
Why the fuck should this manly FTM have to use the womans bathroom?
Austin Taylor
Because she is less than 1/1000th of the .03% of the population.
Easton Watson
Urinals exist to save water you dink
Jason Powell
right but you have to make rules that include everyone, which is why people should use the bathrooms of the sex they most look like.
Jack Wood
Thats disgusting
Ryan Lewis
i've had some weird fucking experiences in public bathrooms. both men's and women's :/
David Miller
Not necessarily true A. Dilation every day is only the first six months. After that it's once a week B. According to surgeons who perform srs and gynecologists, It has the same vaginal flora as a regular woman's. So the smell isn't any different from a regular woman's either. C. Can happen if you have a shitty doctor, but with the surgery done by the best doctors the follicles are removed, so no hair growth occurs.
Source: my friend and my own research
Thomas Gomez
>vegan >trap have you ever lived in portland?
Carter Myers
OR we can incarcerate them as mentally insane. Problem solved.
Isaac Taylor
If he still has a penis, yes. Otherwise he should use a disabled toilet. Any other answer is insane.
Aiden Edwards
yeah bet you like waiting to shit mate, urinals should never replace functioning toilets. if they want to save water they should invent women pissing toilets that don't accept shit and work the same fashion
Mason Howard
>source: bullshit Ftfy Go back to or as people like to say now, >>>/justT/
Ayden James
just make it so you can't use opposite gender bathrooms until you've been on hormone therapy for X months
Luke Thompson
>them as mentally insane. their mental ilness is no worse than any of these mental ilnesses. psychcentral.com/disorders/
are you going to incarcerate everyone with the following? Alcohol/Substance Abuse. Alcohol/Substance Dependence. Anxiety Disorders. Adult Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD/ADD) Bipolar Disorder: Overview, Symptoms. Major Depressive Episode. Hypomanic Episode. Manic Episode. ... Depression. Eating Disorders. Generalized Anxiety Disorder.
Jeremiah Powell
>If it can pass then nobody would ask its gender. No problem. >If it cannot pass then people will ask its gender and it can be kicked out if the bathroom is private.
Thomas Diaz
Jesus fucking Christ...No.
Please for the love of fuck tell me this image is bullshit. They can't make fake pussies look so real.
Luis Jones
spokane, washington
kinda close?
Carter Evans
>X months what is x month tho? 2 months? 8 months? 12 months?
David Lee
you put too much faith in the average public restroom user user. Urinals are to save water and make bathrooms retard proof where possible
Owen Ross
None of those have desires for self mutilation, or attempting to alter their genetic being.
Sebastian Davis
kek, you really like to flat out deny things don't you?
Elijah Ortiz
OMFG NOOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOooo....
I've had sex with that trap.
Sup Forums what is best way to hero?
Jordan Johnson
Not my job to figure that out. Maybe make it up to the doctor's discretion.
Sebastian Ross
keep your penis fake vagoo is sick
Caleb Green
I don't care this is such a non issue >Sup Forums falls for divide and conquer tactics yet again
Thomas Reed
You literally didn't post any source. I don't have to flat out deny when there is no viable claim, it flat out denies itself.
Tyler Adams
The 'lubrication' that these mentally ill faggots talk about is literally a mixture of wound seepage and precum.
Jayden Price
It doesn't matter. They can use whichever bathroom the business allows. Since you're a braindead liberal, you can't comprehend this, but what the person looks like does NOT matter. All that matters is that the owner of a business retains the right to choose who is allowed to use which bathroom.
Anthony Walker
It's a literal wound that body is trying to heal and close up so the new "woman" needs to regularly go to the doctor to have it reopened.
Brody Rogers
Probably not gonna waste my time to go look for the sources for you, you can google it yourself. Nah my friend has one dilator that she uses once a week. She just goes to a regular gynecologist now.
Michael Harris
What a waste of some quality quads on such a shit post
Henry Barnes
>no adam's apple
What the hell, how am I supposed to tell these faggots apart?
Michael Martinez
Throw the doctors in jail for giving this treatment
Parker Ramirez
oh i just know lots of vegan traps in that area
Jaxson Powell
I miss Salem :(
Matthew Foster
Absolutely. Trannies should be reminded as often as possible just how subhuman they really are. The shame and disgust they experience will serve as reminder they're nothing but a delusional circus freak.
Joshua Richardson
That isn't a vagina & you know it.
Alexander Stewart
Fine, shshe can go to the damn bathroom
Jeremiah Bennett
Why?
Gabriel Thompson
So you lied. Good job Ted
Jordan Ortiz
strong chin line. big man hands. wide shoulders waist/hip ratio is different.
but yea a few of them who have been on HRT for awhile might look like a girl if you weren't expecting a guy. and most have adams apples
John Morgan
>A. They have to dialate it every day, as the body tries to close it as a wound I wish I didn't read this.
Ryan Walker
awesome :)
the world needs more vegan traps desu.
Jordan Mitchell
allllright m8 cya later
Brandon Torres
I'm not concerned about these faggots who want to go into the women's restroom. That's up to them.
What I'm concerned about are the perverts and shitheads that want to walk into the women's shower, expose their dong, and peep on naked women going about their business.
When LGBT people go out in public, they choose to dress like pic related to show the world that's who they are. It's hard to believe that their community isn't overrun with perverts and degenerates when this is the standard fare.
Luke Cox
fuck that shit gender dysphoria sux we need to figure out how to prevent it from happening in the future
Josiah Thompson
shoulders are always a dead giveaway
Austin Davis
if you get hormones as a kid gender dysphoria's not so bad. we just need more kids on estrogen
Jaxson Long
Get the fuck out of here. Really, we need legislation because some mentally ill hag-dyke can't pass for a woman? More importantly, if she is such a dyke, go use the fucking men's room.
This doesn't require legislation or even a fucking discussion. But hey, we know the fucking degenerate left needs to distract from Hillary on the subjects of:
Bill on the pedoplane Bill abusing women Bill signing NAFTA Hillary and Benghazi Hillary on Libya Hillary and Egypt Hillary voting for Iraq Hillary and the foundation Hillary on TPP Hillary on immigration Hillary being a huge coke snorting cunt.
Nicholas Smith
TRannies need bathroom permits, like a drivers licence. They goto DMV, person looks at them. If they pass a visual test they look like Sex M, or Sex F, they get bathroom licence.
Jordan Allen
>we need to pump kids going through massive body changes with hormones because reasons I swear to fucking God I want to murder anyone who thinks this is a good idea.
Brody Sullivan
>we just need more kids on estrogen no we need to figure out how to cure it so no one has to ever be on hormones. Gender dysphoria is a mental ilness, its not how its supposed to be.
IF we start putting kids on estrogen we will probably put a whole bunch who arent even trans on hormones and fuck over normal people.
Isaiah Jenkins
If they'd fuck off with the parades that would be great. Shit most flamboyant gays in Toronto already get special treatment for being gay. We don't need parades twice a year where men get naked in public and women grope each other on floats in order to look more "equal".
Gay people are fine. Literally nothing wrong from a social standpoint.
Gay culture is fucked.
Sebastian Sullivan
it's the only way to treat this shit effectively.
prevention isn't possible. we don't even know what causes it lol
Oliver Barnes
I don't want to put my pee-pee in someone elses pee-pee
Kayden Sanchez
Gender ideology harms children. We must reject all policies that condition people to accept as normal the impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts - not ideology - determine reality. Human sexuality is an objective biological trait: "XY" And "XX" are genetic markers of health, not of disorder. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender is a sociological and psychological concept. A person's belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking. Conditioning children into believing a lifetime of impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse. -The American College of Pediatricians
Kayden Rodriguez
I went to the pride parade once, and saw them handing out penis popsicles to children. That's why everyone is so fussy about this: gay culture has coloured people's perception of gays to the point where most people think less of them than they did before.
Asher Scott
>we don't even know what causes it lol THATS WHY WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAUSES IT.
iv known SO many people who were put on hormones who turned out to not be trans and it completely fucked them over
Gavin Edwards
"LOOKS"
NOT IS
Aaron Cox
...
Noah Young
Some (genuine) women have broad shoulders though...
Matthew Nguyen
because it has OVARIES
Gabriel Barnes
uh okay?
we can't just "figure it out!"
this shit is going to take several decades and likely some major medical breakthroughs to comprehend entirely.
Charles Rogers
>need to piss >walk up to men's room >genital inspection officer cup checks me >squeezes my balls too hard >I piss in his hand
Fuggin tranny bathroom laws
Wyatt Price
This is legit a good idea. I'm a liberal and can get behind this. No way we should be allowing any pedofuck with a wig in a bathroom with kids. They need to be full on trannies to at least get a pass.
Jeremiah Carter
>we can't just "figure it out!" right but we should be focusing on figuring it out rather than pumping hormones into confused children who arent even trans
Logan Stewart
>let's fuck up an innumerable amount of lives because of reasons You are so stupid it is hilarious. Just because we don't know NOW doesn't mean we can't know. Most teenagers who have these feelings grow out of them, and suicide rate doesnt change AT ALL from pre to post op, but hey, the doctors preforming these surgeries and pumping people full of drugs sure love their paychecks, and their lobby is doing wondrous things to keep it all legal. youtu.be/rcUJgbWrM64
Carter Butler
Idk, I've gone to the parade a few times since one of my friends is trans and it's socially "cool" to go but every time I see something that's just trying to be edgy for the sake of it such as stroking their cocks on the sidewalk. 95% of gays are cool and just want to have fun, it's just the 5% that piss me off.