How would your country do against *insert neighbor X here* in both an offensive and defensive war?
Sweden vs Norway:
>Sweden wins a defensive war
>Sweden wins an offensive war
Sweden vs Denmark:
>Sweden wins a defensive war
>Sweden wins an offensive war
Sweden vs Finland:
>Sweden wins a defensive war
>Finland most likely wins against a swedish offensive war
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we win everything
inb4 angry finns
>Russiia
>China
hmmmm
Sweden would surrender before the first shot had even been fired
Netherlands vs Belgium
>lol
Netherlands vs Germany
>lol
Netherlands vs UK
>Netherlands wins an offensive war
>Netherlands wins a defensive war
(inb4 butthurt brits saying otherwise even though its yet to happen)
Netherlands vs France
>Netherlands loses an offensive war
>Netherlands loses a defensive war
nobody would be winner in any of the cases apart from austria but then we would rebel till they collapse so they stopped trying to invade anyway
Let's assume we wouldn't, because in that case we would win
heh
>japan vs china, russia or koreas in a difensive war
win
>offensive
can't start the war in the first place
no war is ever offensive, you are defending yourself from the impending aggression
Army vs army we would win against everyone in a defensive war. We would have problems invading Croatia due to the modern military they have, Bulgaria due to similar strength and invading Romania is outright impossible for us due to geography , economy, resources and numbers
Oh forgot Hungary would be a problem both offensively and defensively, probably a bloody stalemate
We can btfo everyone in the general area in both offensive and defensive except maybe Indonesia.
>defensive
We'd definitely win in defensive as we have much better tech and plenty to work with, Indonesia (and most countries) really aren't equipped to invade. In fact, it's very unlikely they would even be able to reach Australia as they'd get fucked by superior navy and air force.
>offensive
I don't think we'd be successful, too many Islands and too much population. If you had some key, round-about strategy and were really lucky, then maybe but in general, probably not.
>sweden
>winning against norway in an offensive war
good luck occupying anything west of akershus
C'mon now, our military is like ten times your size
>60k mobilized swedish troops vs 83 mobilized norwegian troops
meant 83k
>netherlands vs uk
How exactly would you win?
Dutch: 59,300 active men, 32,200 reserve
Sea:
4 submarines (2,800t)
4 destroyers (6,050 t)
2 frigates (3,300 t)
4 patrol ships (3,750 t)
2 amphibious dock (12,700-16500 t)
1 joint support ship (27,800 t)
Air
-61 F-16
-35 F-35 ordered
-28 apache helicopters
armour:
>Prior to 2012, the army also included armoured regiments equipped with main battle tanks. One of these, the Regiment Huzaren Prins Alexander (former 3rd Hussar Regiment), was disbanded in November 2007 due to budget cuts. The other two, the Regiment Huzaren Van Sytzama (former 1st Hussar Regiment) and the Regiment Huzaren Prins van Oranje (former 2nd Hussar Regiment) were disbanded, along with the army's full armoured capability, in 2012 as a result of further cuts to the Dutch defence budget.[13]
now:
18 leopard tanks
149 CV IFVs
200 Boxer AFVs
artillery:
57 PZ2000 howitzers
vs
GB: 153,700 active, 81,850 reserve
Sea:
2 elizabeth class aircraft carriers (70,000t) (yes theyre built)
4 vanguard class submarines(15,900 t)
3 astute class submarines (7,400 t)
4 trafalgar class submarines (5,300t)
3 Amphibious warfare ships (19,500-21,500 t)
6 type 45 destroyers (8,500 t)
13 duke class frigates (4,900 t)
4 patrol (1,700 t)
Air:
81 Pavia Tornado
141 Typhoons
138 F-35 ordered
50 Apache Helicopters
Armour:
249 challenger 2 tanks (originally 403)
654 CRTV AFVs
770 Warrior AFVs
859 Bulldog AFVs
UK vs France
>win defensive
>lose offensive
UK vs Dutch
>win defensive
>win offensive
UK vs Ireland
>win offensive
>win defensive
UK vs Belgium
>win offensive
>win defensive
UK vs Spain
>win defensive
>may or may not win offensive
UK vs Greece (via cyprus)
>win defensive
>win offensive
>Poortugal
They have like 10 bullets in their entire army? Lyl.
>France
No chance at all, they have nukes and their own aerospace industry.
>Morocco
Would beat their conventional forces, no way we'd be able to occupy and subdue resistance/insurgencies.
won 100% of the invasions and 100% of the defensive wars so far against the uk
didnt portugal btfo'd you already?
Stay mad LMAO
We would crush you neutral pussies!
>Greece, Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan
Easy steamroll
>Iraq, Syria
Already have troops there, managed to acquire a decent swath of territory just with some armor, special ops and absolutely useless Syrian militia who deserted the moment they were engaged by ISIS
>Cyprus
Already beat once and got half the island
>Iran
Would be similar to Iran-Iraq war with a long stalemate ending in a white peace with millions dead for nothing
Nuke is the only true answer.
Cant win against an invasion if the British use rising sea water lmoa
Ah yes the mighty champion of receiving nukes and and carpet bombing. Japan the mighty in getting bombed.
>Would be similar to Iran-Iraq war with a long stalemate ending in a white peace with millions dead for nothing
Just like every other time you fought them? The Persian army would just run away into the Iranian heartland and avoid battle.
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Today probably worse since Iran has nukes and you don't.
>victory in offensive war
>untrained army
>using human wave "tactics"
expect heavy casualties and strong guerilla war in captured terretory
What I meant by stalemate was there wouldn't be a victor to that hypothetical war. Though since the Treaty of Kasr-ı Şirin (1639) there hasn't been a war between Iran and Turkey, so any conflict besides diplomatic is an almost impossibility.
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Its the current year
>UK vs Ireland
>win offensive
top lel m8, you couldnt do it in 800 years
>current year
>winning an offensive war and long term occupation
ok, maybe if youre basically the same country like russia and ukraine but this doesnt work any more.
ireland, you cant even win a war with yourself. Your shitty island has literally never been independently united. All you micks do is fight constantly - youre practically niggers.
they have stronger air force. but then again our anti air systems are strong as well.
You dont even have fighters, or submarines, or heavy tanks, or destroyers, or frigates. It would be like invading an african country.
>Though since the Treaty of Kasr-ı Şirin (1639) there hasn't been a war between Iran and Turkey
Check the Wikipedia page more closely. There were four wars in the 18th century and the last one was in the 1820s.
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Portugal
>Spain wins defensive war
>Spain wins offensive war but struggles to occupate the country
Morrocco
>Spain wins deffensive war
>Spain dominates the strait and could (permanently) take some positions in the Morroccan coastline but fails to occupate the whole country.
France (assuming nukes are used)
>lol nope
France (assuming nukes aren't used)
>Spain wins deffensive war (possibly giving away some northern parts)
>Offensive war
>lol nope
Andorra
>lol yep
UK, Gibraltar (assuming nukes are used)
>lol nope
UK, Gibraltar (assuming nukes aren't used)
>Status Quo either way unless one country goes full retarded and decides to invade the other one via amphibious assault (in 2k17 lul) with possible spanish occupation of Gibraltar (may, or may not be devolved in peace talks)
Finnish 19-yo reservist officer commanding his infantry platoon has more artillery at his disposal than your whole army has combined. There are hundreds of like him.
Technically you resisted Hungary during the Balkan front in WW2, but then again that was mostly due to Habsburg retardation
We have stronger air force and navy. That leaves you with the option to invade through Norrland, which is extremely cold and Takes tons of Miles to traverse until you reach the core of Sweden
Your supply Linda would end up becoming overextended
That's just dumb. Our military is trained to defend. It would suck offensive
>all these armchair generals
It'd take less than a day for one of our heavily mechanized battlegroups to reach outskirts of Stockholm.
we stomp everyone obviously
But Sweden has a good defence to prevent you from reaching it in that time
Win all desu.
Yes, I took account the time needed for 4 bathroom breaks.
>brazil
you jungle monkeys are still using propeller planes. Go play with the bolivians or something and leave warfare to the adults.
Lmao trust me your navy is shit, we found all your boats in a joint exercize in about 2 hours
Yeah your submarines are good but apparently you dont know how to use them
t. 2015/I playa del pansio
:^)
>not a combat plane
>combat plane
hmmmm
do we also use the hms victory in battles? I mean, she is registered as an active ship.
Swedistan
>Actually thinks the swedish "army" would be able to defeat danes in combat.
>Vid related
Every neighbour: LOL
USA: LoLoLOlLOlL *NUKES UShArt*
>USA vs Canada
Canada gets fucked
>USA vs Mexico
Mexico gets fucked
We'd launch our refugees towards you in war as well, watch out for the pirates
We have to destroy storebælt, then sink the ramshackle somali boats in the strait afterwards.
>defensive
>china
>japan
>korea(s?)
>seek help
>withdraw troops
>surrender
>offensive
>kek we don't have an army
Belarus vs Russia:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Ukraine:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Poland:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Lithuania:
>Belarus wins a defensive war
>Belarus wins an offensive war
Belarus vs Latvia:
>Belarus loses a defensive war
>Belarus loses an offensive war
>doubt
Also, weaponized aids would be a serious threat, but we would still win to reclaim clay.
very good post
Well done getting back the conscription.
You might be a nation after all. :?)
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We were occupied by everyone of our neighbours, so we would probably lose, but come back in a decade or two.
We didn't get occupied by Croats at least.
We did though sl.wikipedia.org
Damn.
>losing wars
lmoa
>Every neighbour: LOL
dont you boarder with China?
>hapsburgs
>ww2
He is referring to major countries
>Mexico
Win an offensive war, though it would be long, bloody, brutal, and pointless
Win a defensive war, though if the hispanics in this country side with Mexico it would be brutal
>Canada
Would win an offensive or defensive war. Force disparity is too great, though I would trust our northern neighbors to give us a hard fight if we invaded
the smaller you make us the more emberassing your defeats are
Vs Guatemala
Win
Win
plz...obviously we crush Greenland, UK, Ireland, Faroe Isles, Norway, Denmark, Sweden in any sort of war....
afterall we crushed UK last three times
Don't forget the Belgian navy and other parts of the Belgian army are under Dutch control, the Luxembourgish army is under Belgian control and that we have special defence policies with Germany. We use German tanks in our ships and German ships are under Dutch control whereas the Dutch ground forces are under German control.
You're right, Germany and Belgium will never attack us and we will never attack them.
>implying
wtf how does that work
basically this.
but we couldn't get spain if we invaded
I'd rather just stay in the barracks until our Commander in Chief gets us some new working humvees
Our countries have strong cultural ties. All four countries are on former Holy Roman Empire territory and most of us speak similar languages. We couldn't do this with France for example, because the cultural differences are just too big. I don't think an European Army would work, but this one seems effective.
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So why don't you just
You know
So...whats the problem with...you know.. a king? If the countries you are joined with this closely have one
>Win a defensive war, though if the hispanics in this country side with Mexico it would be brutal
All those German-Americans didn't side with Germany in either world war, no?
d-d-daddyyy....
Mmmmhhhh
Should specify i meant germany, i know N has one
America Vs. Canada
>offensive win
>defensive win
I'm not even going to bother writing more things down, it's been theorized that the entire planet could attack us and we would still win in spades.
>muh vietnam
We killed over 3 million of them and lost 40,000.
We'd annihilate every enemy
I don't think seperate forms of government would be a problem. We still keep our own laws and each soldier has to follow the laws of his commander. Besides, our monarchs are really popular in Germany. I went to Kleve today and there were orange flags hanging everywhere.
>Baltic cunts, Belarus, Ukraine, Central Asia 'stans, Caucasus cunts, Mongolia
We occupy them in a couple days
>Finland
We occupy them in a couple weeks
>China
If defensive war, we win easily. They invade Siberia and freeze to death when winter comes. If offensive war, we don't have manpower, economy, or force projection capability to beat them without using nuke.
>tfw ywn see another kaiser
I'm a monarchist so i really hope the Kings of Germany return, hate republics
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at least a few still respect them
Realistic and probably true.
You forgot Norway, Poland and Best Korea :^)
Sweden would never be able to occupy Norway if it was to attack them today. The army is currently in very poor shape, and the Norwegian terrain makes it easy to defend. Oslo would easily fall though, so I suppose you could call it a victory on that fact alone.
>Serbia
Win a defensive one, not so sure about an offensive one. Maybe if the USA help out.
>Bosnia
Win a defensive one. Win as invaders cause the serbs would no doubt invade as well.
>Hungary
Win defense, lose invasion.
>Slovenia
lmao
>Montenegro
lmao
>Netherlands vs UK