Commies suck. Reds suck. Commie pinko fags

Commies suck. Reds suck. Commie pinko fags.

Gimmie your best commie slur.

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Express to me why you disapprove of communism maybe this dialogue could expand your field of thought

that lingo hasn't been used since 80s Cinema

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries. Good day to you sir!

I'm gonna lingo your lingus, pinko

lost

Pinko? Red? I dunno. I just got lots of anti-commie pics.

Mr Bond how good of you to join us
Input any villainous guy in dark background

>pic related

if communism existed there would be no guns, or violence

How about this?

AHAHAHAHAHAA

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OP here

yeah i can't come up with any good words to single handedly degrade pinko fags. Sup Forums needs to find a good slur so we can trigger dem

socialism is a lot of people in a line
and capitalism is two people in a factory?

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Capitalist + gun = Fascist

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fuck yeah

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that's not communism, Bolsheviks never really tried marxism, Lenin just invented his own idea loosely based on Marx which contemporary marxists and anarchists hated, not even socialism was achieved at the USSR or Mao's china, that was just stupid brutality

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>MY communism is good!
>THEIR communism wasn't real communism!

just to be clear you're arguing that the 1% of the richest people in America should control America

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social democracy is bretty gud

Sounds okay to me. We live in a meritocracy, the best and brightest rise to the top!

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Better than communism, but sure as hell isn't as good as a healthy free market!

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real communism, according to Marx only could be achieved by a race of new men who would not be corrupted, i'm not saying it's a good idea, mostly because it's an unachievable fairytale, but what the psycopath politicians was not what Marx or Engels meant

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The social democratic nations are among the most prosperous and also have high economic freedom.

You can have universal healthcare, access to higher education, public investment in science and infrastructure, all while having a free market.

look at this beautiful capitalism sure fixed up the neighborhood

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Poor people are free to vote for whatever policies they like. If they want to 'control' America they can do so themselves.

I'm no free market zombie but a large reason South Africa is shitty is because it's full of blacks with little to no education.

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>MY capitalism is good!
>THEIR capitalism wasn't real capitalism cus blacks!

LOL. So true!

t that chart was put together by some ivory tower academic with no economics background and who has never worked a real job in their life.

none of them are communist countries, if they had achieved communism they wouldn't be nation-states anymore, they aren't even socialism well done, they're just dictatorships with stupid leaders or opportunistic elites

It's still capitalism, but a country full of ignoramuses would have turned out shitty no matter the system. Look at neighboring Zimbabwe. They had a socialist revolution and it turned into a shitty dictatorship with hyperinflation and famines

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>MY communism is good!
>THEIR communism wasn't real communism!

or perhaps - and bear with me here because this is going to really tax your brain - "socialism", and "communism" are two different things.

I know. its a crazy idea! Madness!

But... if you try really hard, you might eventually get your head around the fact, and understand that communism and socialism, particularly Democratic Socialism. are two different things.

Communists, in the 50's-70's soviet bloc were authoritarian fucktards who restricted people's movement, had secret police, all that shit.
Socialists, lets say, in West Germany, (or germany after reunification, or in pretty much all the rest of europe, and most of the rest of the world in fact), meanwhile, allow all those "freedoms" that the US has. exactly the same. free to travel, protection under law from unjust imprisonment, democratic elections, etc.

But it also offers the citizens some other things.

like healthcare.
education. (that'd be useful for you.)
sanitation run by the government.
some offered transport, in the form of national rail networks or national postal services. or telecomms.

where the purpose was for them to be run for the people, not for the profit of the owners.

and therefore you dont get the shit in the US, like AT&T's telecoms monopoly, or the utterly shitty business practices of the US health industry where people go bankrupt to survive illness.
and so on.

Communism, and socialism are not the same thing.

There. you just learnt something today. isnt that incredible?

I'm too lazy to look at this in terms of purchasing power and links sourced, but that's interesting. The real evidence would be looking at health, education, basic quality of life after they pay all those taxes. Like someone in whatever eurofag country that is probably won't die because they can't afford to see the doctor for that cancer they got eating all those Mc Dick meals, so they probably do end up making more when they don't go bankrupt for all the unexpected things that happen in life. Like forgetting to pull out and creating more diabetic Republicans.

>doesn't notice lights north of PRK

I'm glad you came to that realization on your own now you can see how socialism in a country that's full of ignoramuses can't pull off socialism because their government is mentally impaired

t. anti-intellectual ignoramus

that would be China

All right, explain Venezuela then. Not communist, but socialist.

I can't believe I miss the times when moronic anons were libertarians

I'm a Dane I can confirm this.

While we may have a fair life standard here, healthcare isn't 100% free and what is stated about private debt is also true.

The state here can keep you on your feet, but only if you do as they say and attend shit that they want you to attend.

In turn you are prevented from ever reaching enough wealth or success to own all the fast and sexy cars and other luxuries you want. Very, very few people here can afford stuff like nice cars or a luxurious house even if they work their bollocks off.

The car part is especially fucking retarded, we have so many different yearly and quarterly taxes on cars. Basicaly the more luxurious and sexy the car, the more weight tax, c02 emission tax and at least 10 other taxes on top of that yearly.

Forget all about an Audi R8 or Dodge charger here.

democrats destroyed usa in 20th century
go back to even more extreme capitalism
democracy causes great depressions

Venezuela isn't socialist, it's just pure populism, just a bunch of dumb poor people leaded by a corrupt government who made lots of stupid reforms without knowing nothing about economy, you can't achieve socialism if you depend on oil to buy things from other countries

What in the actual fuck are you rambling about

good work
now follow through on the implied correlation between lights, economic systems and prosperity

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>it's just pure populism, just a bunch of dumb poor people leaded by a corrupt government who made lots of stupid reforms without knowing nothing about economy
You just defined socialism, congrats!

>Forget all about an Audi R8 or Dodge charger here.
HAHAH. Talk about 1st world problems. So you live in an amazingly safe and well-run country and you complain about not having a big fancy car. You fucking capitalists are nothing but screaming, spoiled babies.

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its democracy/socialims/fascism/communism/maanged ecnomy fail

1800s usa ended slavery and amde us no1 with 1% GDP total gov spending
no regulations including no welfare

What's wrong about you communist and capitalist these political system are both jewish controled . It's system design to gave power to the jew and you are still beliving that it's a battle between left and right but instead it's simply different face of the same coin own by jew . They make you belive that these system are the only possibility . National socialism is the only way to stop jewish controlled system and give power to the people .

You are fucking retarded, I come from a low class family, grew up in a ghetto full of sandnigger chimps and black on white racism with barely enough money for clothes and proper food.

You are a serious case of aspergers

say jews gone
how structure society
capitalism
property and free unregulated production and trade

socialism is a bunch of superior men who create a government who controls the means of production and work for a near future where there will not be the need for such government... of course venezuelans can't achieve that, they're a bunch of monkeys

moral correct smart babies
while what are you
a democrat?

BUSH

Also to clarify, say you are out of luck looking for a job or your landlord kicks you out etc etc - And you have to apply for basic welfare to get by.

The government will force you into their "work camps" disguised as "Activation" where they demand that "You need to start looking for a job, go go go!" while at the same time making you sort different coloured wires into bags from 8-16, effectively taking up almost all your time that was supposed to be spent on looking for a job or education and draining you for energy in the process.

Currently reading Capital in the 21st century. Do Sup Forumsros read?

Wrong you yid communist and capitalist jew have the same interest it was a way to use labour and exploit non jew . In a national socialist society the economy is regulated by the non jew state . Big industry belong to the state and little one to the people .

correct.

but Venezuela has, as just one example, a government branch called " the Minister of the Popular Power of the Communes."

They have forcibly nationalised business, seizing them from capitalist owners.

they have nationalised petrochemical industry. a single state-owned company, no competitors.

those *are* the hallmark of communism. The fact that the government in Caracas has armed "collectives", police or paramilitary groups, who act to prevent public protest, is the sort of hallmark of ultra-authoritarian communism.


Its fairly simple. its not a binary, black/white, on/off switch.

its a scale. at one extreme, you have ultraliberalism, the Ayn Randian model.

A little along that line from that is the general capitalist state of the US. The use does have some socialist elements. Road infrastructure paid by the state, sewer systems, public schools, some NPR news, etc.
A little further along that scale is social democrats. they also have roads paid by the state, sewers, public schools. and they also have hospitals, maybe universities, maybe a national rail company, maybe a national TV station. But you own your house, your car, you work in a private business, all all that.

and then further along again, you get communism. No private businesses allowed. State run schools, Government controlled TV, State University, State transit. No private property at all, not even your own car or home, that is a state house.

That's a HUGE gap, between "the state runs the train company" and "the state seizes your property".
these are NOT the same thing. Any more than the US today is the hellish insanity that would be pure Randian ultracapitalism, where you would have to pay a corporation to use the fucking roads, or get a primary education, or anything.

>The government will force you into their "work camps" disguised as "Activation" where they demand that "You need to start looking for a job, go go go!" while at the same time making you sort different coloured wires into bags from 8-16, effectively taking up almost all your time that was supposed to be spent on looking for a job or education and draining you for energy in the process.
All of that crap is actually a result of right-wingers trying to make the unemployed feel so bad that they give up welfare and go live on the street. That way right-wingers feel more at home because they have somebody to look down upon.

Mein kampf

>2014+2+1
>reading leftist propaganda

that book is shit
read capitalism the unknown ideal by ayn rand
or youtube yaron brook for cliff notes
piketty is a fool

apparently not since most people can't tell from communism, socialism, bernie sanders, Mao and the gulags

so how property?
how banking?
how entrepreneur get funds to do new ideas?

savage as fuck

>implying pure capitalism would be bad
Go read some real economics books and get back to me. You're so deluded there's just no reasoning with you.

Fuck off, it was not the right wingers here that introduced this. It was the left wing politicians.

Either way neither right or left wing represents socialism or capitalism in any state or form. The left wing here is socialism mixed with muh tolerance while the right wing here is just socialism with a tad bit of nationalism.

Both can suck a cock.

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I know what a fucking fool.
reminds me of people who watch daily shoa
snl
n those doofuses
and still say shit liek trickle down
raeganomic
crony capitalism (no such thing, its crony communism, or hek democracy which si evil)
or say drumpf
fucking losers really brainwashed

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>a result of right-wingers trying to make the unemployed feel so bad that they give up welfare and go live on the street. That way right-wingers feel more at home because they have somebody to look down upon.

Also that is complete fucking made up tinfoil hat wearing USSR-style propaganda bullshit.

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what most fags here doesn't seem to understand is that Marx was born in a time where most of what was produced was produced nearby and the economy was different, no fiat economy or outsourcing, his book was an analysis and alternative for that day and age, of course it doesn't work in today's world

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Communism is the final form of capitalism. Accept it. It is coming.

>Also that is complete fucking made up tinfoil hat wearing USSR-style propaganda bullshit.
Not at all. It's common right-wing tactics. Force people off of welfare into poverty. Right-wingers are both evil and cunning. They are the scum of the Earth and should all be shot.

The best commie slur is schweinehunt translates to pig dog. The nazis had the best terms

>Go read some real economics books and get back to me

Which economics books would you like?

Start at the beginning, with Wealth of Nations?

or do you only mean Ayn Rand's masturbatory fantasies?

you do know that when she became ill at the end of her life, she relied on government handouts?

Beautiful irony, really. Changed her tune when it actually became necessary for her to have such government aid.

Or which other economics? the Keynesian model?

I'm quite familliar with them.

and the extreme end of right-wing ultracapitalism is just as insane and fucked-up as the opposite end of left-wing communism.

why did the commies killed these good looking chaps and their families?