So. One Tie Fighter can escape a fully staffed Star Destroyer. Tell me why this movie was a success again

So. One Tie Fighter can escape a fully staffed Star Destroyer. Tell me why this movie was a success again.

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Because the name "Star Wars" prints money.

Because people bought tickets to see it

Star Destroyers fight huge ships their own size. They are not concerned with mosquito Tie-Fighters.

they could have filmed a bag of dog shit and it would have made a billion dollars as long as they called it star wars

Because if people can look past a soldier trained from birth to fight suddenly killing his own brothers for no reason after an anti-climatic first battle you can get away with fucking anything.

Bring back Lucas, at least it was consistent with it's stupidity

traitor guy did literally nothing wrong.

him dying like shit, and leah hugging the whore over chewie were the last straw.

he didn't die but leah not hugging chewie was a huge fuck up and even JJ has accepted it.

i thought he took a shot to the chest, which ended his fight against the black dude.

i'm glad JJ has accepted it, but why in the fuck did he do it in the first place?

oh you meant the trooper, yeah he's dead.
That should have been phasma and it would have added to her character.

Idk, sometimes you follow your stronger plot threads and you forget about the details, the whole third act was about Rey so he kept with it to the end but someone should have brought up chewie's history with Han but I guess nobody did.

it's the whole "chewie didn't get a medal" all over again, it's like pottery if you think about it.

best pilot in the galaxy motherfucker pay attention

fucking kids

Luke is literally still alive

I believe his explanation was that he thought Chewie was going to be somewhere else but they had to go back and redo that scene and it escaped them that Chewie was just walking around.

>classic trilogy
>ties are a jap zero analogy
>fast and maneuverable but with no defensive armament
>blow up in one shot
>sacrifice everything for speed and maneuverability
>new star wars
>they look the same but with some paint on them
>but now they can carry two people instead of one while looking the same
>have shields and defensive armament

Lucas fucked a lot of shit up but he watched a lot of post war aircraft movies that had footage of real dogfights. And he actually understood the jap vs usa approach to air warfare, and made it an interesting device in his movies.

Abrams gives us a 2 seat tie fighter because it made writing the story more convenient.

I'm sorry George.

You realize that plenty of airplanes going a long ways back had two seats right? A rear gunner is a valuable asset in a lot of occasions.

Hell, the Snowspeeders had two seats in them. This isn't unprecedented.

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Car commercial had a better battle than anything in the whole movie
Prove me wrong

yeah the reason star destroyers have fighter escorts is because they aren't so good at shooting down small fighters

something looks off about that

Following this analogy, what does that make Naboo starfighters and Trade Federation droid fighters?

Because
youtube.com/watch?v=VoYm_iLXdjA

Tell me this isn't the most kino star wars video ever.

If WWII jap bombers can avoid being shot down for doing something as stupid as trying to land on a US carrier, I don't see why a TIE couldn't escape a star destroyer

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It certainly gets the most hype out of any fan made recut of star wars footage. It's actually better than anything Hollywood has done.

is this sped up? it looks like a video game

>he thinks a fucking 2km long destroyer can catch a small fighter craft

WEW LAD

>You realize that plenty of airplanes going a long ways back had two seats right? A rear gunner is a valuable asset in a lot of occasions.

Not in ww2

Spitfires, p-51s, yak-9s, ect were all single seat

TDR-1s (interstate droid fighters, used in 50+ combat missions against the japs) and shit like the D520s (dewoitine)

>technology has advanced in 30 years
>user shocked

>I've never played a 4x space game you guys
I can tell. You're the retard that'd only use the largest ships your could afford and then wonder why the little ant sized ships are fucking you.

It's from a Jeep commercial.

>haha lucas using real world experience doesnt matter

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Who gives a fuck? It had no place in star wars.

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>Who gives a fuck? It had no place in star wars.

So disney is shit then no?

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You're right, it doesn't.

man this is one of the more autistic complaints about new star awars i've seen lmao

adding a seat is literally one of the dumber things to be mad about.

mosquito squadron is much close than the dam busters

even the cinematographer said as much

>adding a seat is literally one of the dumber things to be mad about.

Then show me two seat fighter planes of ww2 then?

Because as a historian of aviation one of the major things of ww2 vs ww1 is long range single seat fighters. And this is something lucas was aware of.

but star wars is not ww2

but its combat is based on it, as lucas and everyone else involved said

the movements of the ties and xwings was based on shit like

Nobody cares about WW2, retard. Stop shitting up the thread with your autism.

>One Tie Fighter can escape a fully staffed Star Destroyer

It got shot down, it didn't escape.

Yeah, but it had TWO seats. How could JJ create such a plot hole?

You guys are fucking clowns. The single biggest problem with new Star Wars is the lack of originality, and you want what now? Yes, Lucas reused shit from other movies to the point where he barely wrote an original line, and yes, that's a pretty cool little insight. That's it. It's a new series, set 30 years in the future, so you might as well bitch about two seat fighter jets in a movie set in the fucking 1970s!

>so you might as well bitch about two seat fighter jets in a movie set in the fucking 1970s!

Hi disney shill

Does having a goblin as a mascot make your job harder?

Lol wut? Ass hats are whining about seats. Or am I taking the bait?

Literally looks as bad as the prequels.

You realise that the sequence with the tie fighter and the falcon in ANH was shot for shot based on a WWI dogfighting movie.

Why aren't the pilots in their fighter before the star destroy drops out of ftl, wouldn't that save time.
Why aren't the at-ats in anything but a drop shit, what possible use could they have in space? Why aren't the rebel forces jumping to ftl if the entire strategy of the rebels relies on quickly and precisely coordinated sneak attacks because of how inferior their technology is?

Tie bomber, the speeder, y-wing, the bespin fighter are all two seater. The arc-170 is three seats.

>Jedi need to be trained from birth, 5 years old is far too old
>OK Luke take this 3 week course, you'll do fine

>aye yo hol up I need to kill senator Sheev
>If you kill the emperor you'll fall to the dark side

>Leiah remembers bits of her mother, JK she died giving birth because she was super sad

>Jedi are an official part of the government for 1000 years there's tons of video and news footage of them using their force powers to fight armies
>People don't believe in them after 15 years.

Look, I don't want to defend VII The Cashgrab Awakens or JJ Abrahim, but Lucas was a hack. Him coming back would be the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, or really any movie franchise he can touch. Everything he has done after the 80s has been garbage. Worse its almost like a teenager who is trying to be deep making a comic on DeviantArt.
At least with Disney we can argue it's not really cannon, and they'll probably reboot in a few years if people don't hate Star Wars already. But Lucas shitquels are basically cannon, and that's really really really sad. Far worse than an unoriginal script.

For me:
Good original ideas > nothing > good unoriginal ideas > bad original ideas.

I would have preferred another generic Indiana Jones to the Crystal Skull.

But they didnt escape, it was shot down.

you realize it was shot for shot mosquito squadron?

besides the sound effects being changed this is the original sequence

>Tie bomber, the speeder, y-wing, the bespin fighter are all two seater. The arc-170 is three seats.

>tie bomber

cockpit never shown in the movies

>ywing

gee almost like a mosquito

>bespin fighter

background in 5, no actual combat or scenes besides shit added in the special editiom

>arc-170

prequel shit

the people involved in the first movie said that the combat footage was based on ww2, with the stop motion being frame for frame gun cam footage from ww2.

But hey the zero was a light box just like the zero. Pure coincidence.

>you realize it was shot for shot mosquito squadron?
He was responding to the video I posted, which has nothing to do with that argument.

I was responding to the animated video, not the Mosquito Squadron mashup with SW audio.

>the people involved in the first movie said that the combat footage was based on ww2, with the stop motion being frame for frame gun cam footage from ww2.

Everybody everywhere knows this. You can stop telling people that the second world war, the single most destructive conflict in human history, had some effect on things. Seriously, we fucking get it, we just don't care that you think Lucas being inspired by something makes two seats a fucking sin 30 years later.

so fan fiction then

gee i wonder why

>we just don't care that you think Lucas being inspired by something makes two seats a fucking sin 30 years later.

Were you born a bitch, or is something you became over time?

halt and catch fire is shit this season

mostly because of garbage dialog like the shit you just regurgitated

Does... does that shuttle have two seats?

FUCKING DELET THIS!!!

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>Those don't count because I said so

>>Jedi are an official part of the government for 1000 years there's tons of video and news footage of them using their force powers to fight armies
Actually, Obi-wan said it was over a thousand generations.

They got shot down trying to escape.
>hold your fire there's no life forms
Is more retarded

If plot holes and a complete lack of logic in the story trigger you then I'd recommend never watching the Star Wars prequels

Plot armor, faggot. The heroes in ANH had it too. That's why none of the Stormtroopers could hit them.

I'm not really one of the "Rey is a Mary Sue" cucks, but Leia not hugging Chewie triggered me both times I saw the film. What a cunt.

>can it lift a keyhole?
>FUND IT

>haha here is a reference i get haha

>I cant mention a single dual seat fighter that was successful in ww2
>haha you lose because you cant mention filures
>fuck the other arguments

pic related is the only semi successful of twin seat fighters in ww2. Prove me wrong bitch nigger.

Please stop. You're giving innocent autists a bad name.

but the defiant served well during the bob

sure its radar sucked, but it was all that was available

>>I cant mention a single dual seat fighter that was successful in ww2
And. What's the snow speeder equivalent of WWII? What's the y-wing equivalent? What's the star destroyer equivalent? What's the death star an allegory of? Just because they based some dog fighting aspects off WWII doesn't mean they have to base every ship design off it. The y-wing and tie bomber and snow speeder are proof that twin seater fighters exist.

But they didn't. They got shot down. Then the presence of troops on ground was their to confirm the kills and or find BB8.

>good unoriginal ideas
oxymoron

end yourself

>What's the star destroyer equivalent?

Uhhh... German Star Destroyers? I sincerely hope you're not American, being from a third world country is the only excuse for this level of historical ignorance.

>The y-wing and tie bomber and snow speeder are proof that twin seater fighters exist.
>fictional shit
>proof real things exist

AHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

ORCS ARE REAL BECAUSE TOLKIEN WROTE ABOUT THEM

I meant proof that twin seat fighters exist in the star wars universe. Disney didn't invent twin seater fighters.

Because it's the greatly anticipated return of star wars™ that was made sspecifically close to the originals to avoid the mistakes of the prequel so you have to like it better than the prequels and if you don't you're a misogynist racist bigot

Yoda says Luke is too old you fucking retard.

>Lucas was a hack. Him coming back would be the worst thing to happen to Star Wars
social justice agenda is the worst thing, even Lucas can't top that.

>only thing from 7 is the music
>it's unbearable

Maybe he should try to shill another revisionist scifi movie like Red Tails 2.

>>OK Luke take this 3 week course, you'll do fine
He got his ass kicked.

>tfw I only knew of Red Tails from a Sabaton video
>decide to check it out
>didn't even make it 20 minutes in before turning it off

Why would a freighter escaping the fully manned death star be a thing? Why was THAT movie made? Questions, questions. Not a lot of answers, just a whole lot of bitching.

except its obvious that Yoda was just making excuses. Yoda starts by saying Luke lacks patience and then that he isn't ready. Its only after that that Yoda says he's too old. Do you know a ton of super patient infants ready to do anything?
If there was actually a problem Obi Wan wouldn't have sent him there anyways.

Really if someone took 15 years to master and you needed to start before 5 years old, would you send someone to study for a week and a half to take on a master?

Lucas just got stoned, vaguely recalled some piece of dialog from the OT. And then started writing shit for Episode I.

If someone else made the shitquels everyone would say it wasn't Star Wars and that the director didn't know what he was doing.

>Why would a freighter escaping the fully manned death star be a thing?

>EP V
>Luke just started training, running around with green goblin on back and using force to make rocks float midair
>Kills vader in creepy cave
>Gets weirded out by face in the mask
>Some how Vader still lives
Lukas was always a hack

>except its obvious that Yoda was just making excuses.
yeah, you're in the mind of the characters.
>Do you know a ton of super patient infants ready to do anything?
No a lot, the few of them having that quality would definitely be eligible.
>Really if someone took 15 years to master and you needed to start before 5 years old, would you send someone to study for a week and a half to take on a master?
because it's your "last" hope.
>Lucas just got stoned, vaguely recalled some piece of dialog from the OT. And then started writing shit for Episode I.
That makes sense but I think autism is a better theory.
>If someone else made the shitquels everyone would say it wasn't Star Wars and that the director didn't know what he was doing.
Just like for Lucas then.

>>star wars is not ww2
Jesus Christ how did this board get so bad.

>as bad
No it's far worse. The opening to Revenge was one of the best space scenes in the saga.

People paid to see this?

Naboo starfighter is closest to a spitfire, agile, fast and good looking.

Y-wings are Hawker Hurricanes, interceptors turned ground attack.

Droid fighters... Now thats just soviets in I-15 and I-16, cheap and there to waste ammo

>people paid to see a Jeep commercial

They have several hangers full of TIE fighters, why didn't they deploy them?

>death star analogy

Oh i dont know, like, Bismark, Tirpitz, the fortress of Singapore...

Why would you risk a (presumably expensive) droid by strapping it to the exterior of the ship?

Why would you even bring a droid instead of having an integrated ship computer?

Holy shit, this makes the Original Trilogy look like the most epic, masterful and most action packed dramatic film ever created....Very very skillfully edited.