Is the modern woman worth it?

With how degenerate the average woman is now, is there any reason successful young men should even bother with a serious relationship?

No

To have children.

You saw the other 6 million MGTOW threads like we did. sage

There is need for a new model of relation for having children. Traditional marriage is bankrupt.

Children need two parents of opposite genders to be raised properly. The model has worked for thousands of years.

Women are "liberated" now. They don't want to have children and would rather slut it up with Chad and go to college.

The father can pay daily visit, educate and discipline children. Parents dont have to be forced to get into the same bed.

If you are paying visits then you are not there all the time for them. Also it teaches children that it is normal for that situation which perpetuates the issue.

There must be plenty who do not go to universities in the US, the working class ones. That is where I would look because universities are brainwashing institutions and middle class has university values.

>If children were brought into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist? Would not a man rather have so much sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of existence, or at any rate not take it upon himself to impose that burden upon it in cold blood?

Certainly not if you have financial assets you want to protect, co-habitation, marriage and the risk of pregnancy all put your lifes work at risk.

Male sovereignty is in danger these days and you'd be smart to protect it, whether you want to adopt a label like MGTOW doesn't matter, end of the day seriously relationships are risks under modern government/state systems.

It is better to have existence than non-existence. Non-existence does not have the ability to choose.

>Heaven and happiness do not exist. That's your parents' way to justify the crime of having brought you into this world. What exists is reality, the tough reality, this slaughterhouse we've come to die in, if not to kill and to eat the animals, our fellow creatures. Therefore, do not reproduce, do not repeat the crimes committed against you, do not give back the same, evil paid with evil, as imposing life is the ultimate crime. Do not disturb the unborn, let them be in the peace of nothingness, anyway we'll all eventually go back there, so why beat around the bush?” ―Fernando Vallejo

There is no crime here. Stop being so depressive.

>Whoever wants summarily to test the assertion that the pleasure in the world outweighs the pain, or at any rate that the two balance each other, should compare the feelings of an animal that is devouring another with those of that other.

Then your task is to avoid being the other.

>With how degenerate the average woman is now

Indeed, modern western women are absolutely degenerate.

>is there any reason successful young men should even bother with a serious relationship?

No. People will get angry at you, and tell you to "MAN UP", and use negative buzzwords and memes against you, but in reality, there is no good reason.

The tide is turning. Many many people out there are indeed starting to think more like me and you. The people on Sup Forums and the rest of the Internet that tell us to "MAN UP" are just bitter femanons who are upset because Chad Thundercock doesn't love them anymore.

How did you guys lose the cold war? Cause you stompin.

Gorbachev was too much of an idealistic fool.

But that birthmark......he was supposed to be the chosen one

"More recently, David Benatar has argued from the premise that the infliction of harm is morally wrong and to be avoided. He argues that the birth of a new person always entails nontrivial harm to that person, and therefore there is a moral imperative not to procreate.[4] His argument is based on the following premises:

(1) The presence of pain is bad.
(2) The presence of pleasure is good.
(3) The absence of pain is good, even if that good is not enjoyed by anyone.
(4) The absence of pleasure is not bad unless there is somebody for whom this absence is a deprivation.[4]

If someone exists, there is the presence of pain and the presence of pleasure. If no one exists, nothing bad happens and pain is avoided. They miss out on pleasure, but it seems 'ignorance is bliss' with the nonexistent. For Benatar, “any suffering at all would be sufficient to make coming into existence a harm”. The harm that coming into existence creates is avoidable and pointless. According to Benatar, it is always good to avoid harm whenever possible and therefore it is always good not to come into existence."

As Pat Benetar said.... "love is a battlefield"

>(1) The presence of pain is bad.
This is not true though. Pain is a mechanism of learning. As a trivial example, when you are a child and learning to walk you fall over. But the pain of falling over helps you gain the imperative to learn to walk. Similarly pain is a warning mechanism, for example when you place your hand on something hot the pain warns you that you are facing damage. Psychological pain is the same in many cases, it teaches you things and helps you build character and learn how the world works.Without that pain you would do worse in the world. It is why hedonism does not lead to better lifestyles for people. You need some pain to contrast it to the happiness.

No not anymore. Don't worry humans will be gone via 30 century.

Nothing matters anymore.

>still believes in good and bad
Oy vey

>tfw virgin gf
>Sweet, nice, caring
>Would be a great mother
>Not self centered
>No tattoos, no drugs,
>Non-degenerate
>Hates blacks
>4/10

What do? I feel like I can't get a better pure gf but i'm getting super jealous of all the hot girls walking around.

Stick with her. All women get uglier with age anyway, but her personality is much more worthy of long term commitment if it is the case.

>What do?
Paper bag +imagination

Get her into fitness. Squat booty can be achieved.

My girlfriend is:

Traditional
religious
An athlete
A musician
A humanitarian
Is liked by everybody
A programmer
A writer
Amazing cook
A history nerd
A book nerd
Sweet as can be
Well mannered
Loves family
Hates third wave feminism along with Hillary Clinton
Probably smarter than me

Also has unconditional love for me and wants 3-5 kids

What's your excuse, cuck?

Yeah, in my head I know time is the great equalizer but fuck man, seeing all the other girls walking around makes me so sad.

B..but the rest of life.

Her bodies nice, it's the face.

When will she realise who you actually are and leave you?

Just bad looking in how she looks in terms of features or is it things like acne or something?

Oh look, it's that effeminate beta male that has to brag about his "TRADITIONAL GF" all over the board.

Your girlfriend has been in porn before.

Oh look another MGTOW/r9k cuck shill thread. It's like the 10th today or something

SAGE

Yes if you can redpill her.

If no, well it depends on her personality and if she is loyal to you.
If she's degenerate don't bother.

Bone structure and proportions.

How are Russian mail order brides?

Do not know, I cannot afford one.

>I'm a low test beta who thinks I can't get a good girl


So that's what your problem is

Its not that good women don't exist, its that you can't get one hahahah

uhh the propagation of the white race (unless youre a shitskin) you fucking pussy. no wonder britains screwed

No

You completely dodged what I said and inserted your own fictional greentext.

You are an effeminate beta male and your girlfriend has been in porn.

No

you don't need a relationship to have a satisfying life

She's still American. You gonna get cucked and fucked over.

>There must be plenty who do not go to universities in the US, the working class ones.

You mean all the wageslaves? Literally anyone can do their jobs and they don't deserve even minimum wage on average.

This

It will happen maybe not now but in the future it will. She will get bored of fucking you eventually and wonder how it feels to fuck other men. If you do fuck her, fuck the shit out of her as many times. Destroy her butthole and Cum on her face as much as you can.

You feel a little better knowing some other guy is getting used goods.

I know what I am talking about because it happened to me.

>be me
>dating young kissless virgin who cooks, sews, bakes, wants children, reads books, paints and draws, sings and plays the piano
>she dumps me due to peer pressure
>she is now a tattooed, pierced hipster who cut her hair short, dyed it grey, watches American sitcoms and is a feminist.

Will never trust in a woman again.