In 1995, Italian author Umberto Eco wrote an article in the New York Review of Books entitled Ur-Fascism. In it...

In 1995, Italian author Umberto Eco wrote an article in the New York Review of Books entitled Ur-Fascism. In it, he spoke of his childhood in Mussolini's Italy, and declared that while all Fascist movements were by definition undefinable, being more a general umbrella term for a style of Totalitarian Nationalism than a single movement, they could all be counted upon to contain many of the following 14 tenets:

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1. Contradictory Cult of Tradition

The idea being that one must look back to a 'better' time when 'smarter' people ruled the world in order to repurify things, even if such ideas are unfounded and illogical.

2. Rejection of Modernism

That today's values and culture are weak and lead to worse stock - technology is fine, but only as a means toward the traditionalist values. See also, coal.

3. Worship of Action vs Thought

That the eggheads and the scholars are wasting time. NOW is the time to ACT, and sort things out later.

4. Dissent Equated to Treason

That all those who disagree with the Leader's statements are acting against the very foundations of their country.

5. Fear of Difference

That foreigners and people who don't act like The People are, therefore, not The People and should be mistrusted.

6. Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class

That the common man, the worker, is the only voice that matters, and that their gripes carry more weight than anything else, even if said gripes are created by the Leadership itself.

7. Obsession with Conspiracies

That every day, there is some plot against them, and therefore there must be constant vigilance from all sides.

8. Vilification of Powerful Enemies (who are simultaneously too powerful and too weak)

That the enemy of the People are rich, elitist, and powerful, but that they an also easily be defeated by The People because patriotism.

9. Fighting as Only Good Solution

That the only way to solve a problem, plot, conspiracy, or foreign threat, is through violence.

10. Contempt for Downtrodden

That, while the middle class is good and hardworking, anyone in poverty, living on the street, undocumented, migrant laborers, etc. are disgusting and unworthy.

11. Education of Heroes as Killers and Martyrs

That the greatest heroes, those we must all hold to a higher standard, are the ones who die fighting for their country.

12. Machismo and Contempt for Women

That the best way to act is with bravado, and that women have their place in the kitchen and bedroom, but a woman who tries to earn a living is disgusting.

13. Disdain for Individual Rights and Opinions - therefore, Disdain for a Congress

That the People are a united front, that they all agree with the Leader, and that any part of the governmental party that expresses a dissenting opinion should be tried for treason.

I feel like this should be on Sup Forums

14. Reliance on Newspeak

That all official announcements should use limited vocabulary and vague statements, so as to disallow dissenting argument. How can you KNOW that's what the Leader meant, maybe he was just trolling, etc.

I'm reading

Nice work, op

Based

Meh, pretty sure you could pick anyone's words and match them loosely with these.

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Try it! It'll be a fun experiment.

combo breaker

>ack to a 'better' time when 'smarter' people ruled the world in order to repurify things, even if such ideas are unfounded and illogical.
Reminds me of a lot of Christian movements

Who are you?

>just remember faggot hes smarter, richer, and more educated then you ever will be

The point isn't that these are Fascist by themselves. Eco says just before the list

"These features cannot be organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical of other kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it."

>Fascism: Get married and have lots of kids

>Liberalism: 58 genders, check your privilege

Which would you choose?

NAHHHH HE GONN MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN GOOOOOOOOOO'BLESS

your retarded , hes talking about how we used to make things here. WE used to be a lot more as a country. Its been diminished by years of Democrats

well OP i hope you are now convinced to kys

>richer
yes
>smarter
no
>more educated
no

Liberalism is literally capitalism

Why are Americans such retards?

Cult of personality, definitely. Thanks for the example.

That a BS Econ major who lost much of the money he was seeded and relies on talk shows for his talking points can garner a following who believe him to be an Ubermensch is a perfect example of how Fascism can come from the most unlikely of places.

Why do you conflate worker and middle class? Liberal detected, and the kind of liberal that thinks he's being called left wing by being named as such

Libralism
I can't afford kids

Holy shit this retard is unironically blaming democrats for off shore manufacturing and containerization

transgenders was banned until about a year ago, hes just return to sanity , their mentally ill and should not be in our armed forces. Also it not taxes payers job to pay for their sex changes and hormone therapy, special accommodations, etc... and thing they would not get on the battle field, and become even more unstable...

Ok, as if "yes we can" doesn't stand for number one for Obama? I could come up with more but I'm kinda tired

To quote Eco again,
" In our time, when the old “proletarians” are becoming petty bourgeois (and the lumpen are largely excluded from the political scene), the fascism of tomorrow will find its audience in this new majority."

He points out that the new 'middle class' is the one who hears constantly about how the middle class is disappearing, the one who has to work at a menial job for minimum wage when his father carried a family on a high school diploma and a manufacturing career.

BASIC tactics

>America is more racist than ever, we need safe spaces for minorites
>the internet needs to be moderated by approved thought police to prevent the persecution of minorities
>Shut down speakers! ban contrary opinion from university campus! GET THSAT TWITTER MOB GOIN AND END THEIR CAREER!!!
>Lacy green is a now an alt right racist homophobe.
>I need some muscle over here!
>You're all oppressed by everyone and everything, except whit men, you're evil oppressors.
>Since the beginning of time white men have used women and colourds as slaves. Institutional oppression.
Cough.
>Collecting nazi scalps today.
>The working class are all racists bigots, and can't be trusted to make their own decisions.
>Che Guevara tees everywhere
>Women are a weak special class that need everything nerfed for them, if they hear a bad word or feel offended it's a hate crime, these poor little princesses.
>Ban those speakers! Minimum wage! Living wage! your vote doesnt count because I dont like the outcome! Women have no free will when it comes to sex, they are the prey of men!
>Institutional oppression. Racialized. Marginalised. Problematic. Cultural appropriation. etc. etc. etc.

Ya, you hit the nail on the head. The Antifa -esque nonsense feminist-comunists coming out of universities are fascists. We all knew this already, but thanks for clarifying.

> your

You're adorable. The real reason this country is no longer great is years of outsourcing and mechanization. They took our jobs. They being corporations and business owners. Mostly Republicans.

anonymous sources
using each other as sources
shit that gets debunked and proven 100% wrong time and time gain

the leftist mainstream media is fake news..

Yes We Can was a slogan coined around the concept of true Patroitism, that the country can change for the better (progressive) by doing something that it hadn't before (give the presidency to a black man). Trump's campaign of Make America Great Again was / is coined on the concept of Nationalism, that the country WAS better and that it is through conservatism (regression) that it can reach that state again.

This. Lets see how they will justify this

In 2012, Eco and Jean-Claude Carrière published a book of conversations on the future of information carriers.[21] Eco has criticized social networks saying for example that “Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community [...] but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It’s the invasion of the idiots.” from Wikipedia

Nope we all accept legal immigrants, races, etc
it the ones that come in illegally get paid cash while receiving free healthcare and welfare

Fascism was and always be the super organisms direct immune response to Bolshevism, otherwise known as Internationalist Communism. It (Fascism) is a reactionary force, it is not revolutionary, nor can it exist in a vacuum, it needs it's extreme polar opposite to justify its existence.

fox news is also fake news in that it is controlled opposition, but it one of the few outlets that tolerate conservative views and do not toe the leftist narrative that the others agree on with each other and push

You don't know what anonymous means in journalism. That's okay. It means something entirely different on Sup Forums, so it's understandable.

The New York Times knows who their anonymous source is, but they are under no obligation to provide the name of that source to the public. Usually, this is because sources are sharing information which could be very harmful for them politically or personally. But reputable news organizations don't just take dead drop deep-throat style leaks at face value.

Nice strawman

its a fact james comey leaked classified info and is the reason he got fired, google it

But they do make up sources completely then call that an anonymous source.

"reputable news organizations" haven't existed in a very, very long time. if ever.

>I really do care about some shit some old fuck once wrote.

instead the left vilifies patriotism and nationalism, they prefer the globalist, boarder less bullshit that is the DEATH of our civilization

I don't think that means what you think it means.
I didn't invent someone else's opinion. I made reference things that in fact have happened, and opinions fragrantly promoted by a huge group of people, who happen to have infected mainstream media.

My google result led to this fascinating interview held two days after Comey's firing, in which Trump seems to say (see 14 again!) that he fired Comey because Trump knew the Russia investigation was fake but Comey wouldn't stop looking.

no where do it say that, it says we will handle them diplomatically or with force with or without outside help..

the Democrats pretty much want to run kim jung in 2020

About 1,000,000 times more realistic than OP's bullshit.

some of these tweets are fake

...lost cause.

>stupid man's idea of a smart man
yeah just like every other filthy politician and people working with (((money))).
>poor man's idea of a rich man
this is plain retarded trump is rich fullstop, i guess if i were bill gates then he might not be my idea of rich? but what dumb point is this supposed to be.
>weak man's idea of a strong man
he is strong enough to not break down under the hatred of half the western population, i'd say that implies at least some strength desu

These classifications define both sides as fascists.
Thanks for playing, sweetheart.

freedom isn't free Assshole, the people that sacrifice for out country deserves our respect.
unlike the leftist cancer killing and dividing this country

The Left vilifies nationalism.

The difference:
A patriotic American believes their country is good, sees that other countries are also good, and wants to constantly work to improve America through progress.

A nationalistic American sees America as the best, sees other countries as weakening American values, and wishes to cut American values away from any foreign taint so as to get pure American greatness.

Obama almost took us to war for and election and Hillary conspired with Ukraine and was going attack Russia. They mad a stand against Soros and globalism and the left. can not let that stand,,

remember a few years go when the left vilified and made fun Romney for say Russia was our greatest foe...

That's seriously my biggest worry about this list. I know there are genuine tweets I can replace any fake ones with, but it's very difficult to tell the difference sometimes. Beyond that, the limitation to what our President put on Twitter means I had to skip some genuinely good examples, like the "blood coming out of her wherever" or the "fire and fury" response.

the left vilifes patriotism by conflating it with nationalism

Newspeak aka 1984 reference pretty much is the sate of the mainstream media right now leftist websites

the left screw the facts, facts are racist, I prefer "my feelings"

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>slack-jawed faggot detected

he was busy erasing tweets before becoming president

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dream on, neo natzis deserve no livable space in america

at least the naizis were open with their book burnings

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The left is a globalistic, socialistic regime - the type of new dictatorship they wish to beat people into following would be just as brutal as any other dictatorship in history given enough time.
Let's stop pretending they aren't violent criminals in their own right. They are - and as of right now, in far greater amounts than the alt right is.
However, they keep pushing like they are doing, and pretty soon these incidents of vehicular manslaughter and mass murders at places that the left congregates will unfortunately become all too common.
And honestly, the left is bringing it on themselves - if they would stop being so violent and hateful, it would just be words tossed back and forth and not bodies as a Dodge Challenger plows into them.

the left needs to cut out the violence and fascist bullshit

Again, this list isn't a statement that the Trump organization is Fascist. Eco's warning was that any of these facets could be the seed around which Fascism takes root. Could Obama or Clinton followers have created a Fascist movement out of their campaigns? Possibly. But while a Nationalist view of our troops and a mistrust of the press are both long-honored American values, it's telling how closely Trump's policies get toward supporting each one of these Fascist seeds.

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Newspeak in this context doesn't refer to feelings over facts. It specifically refers to the attempt to use vague wording and confusing language in order to prevent one side or another from arguing against a point. After a tragedy, saying "The actions were uncalled for" without specifying which actions you are talking about lets both sides of the tragedy assume that you are talking for them. Ivanka is the best at this kind of meaningless speech.

see BLACK LIVES MATTER
see ANTIFA
both are fascism

Explain. How does Black Lives Matter or ANTIFA support any of Eco's claims?

I feel as though you are equating intolerance with fascism, and especially intolerance of the intolerant with genuine intolerance.

well the antifa armed terrorists
and united both are in the wrong,

but only one group brought weapons, assembled illegally, and it was antifa

forcible suppression of opposition,
repression of criticism or opposition

for starters

njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa

steemit.com/maga/@truthforce/reminder-antifa-was-officially-declared-a-terrorist-organization-in-new-jersey-they-are-not-counter-protestors

nbc29.com/story/36099395/city-of-charlottesville-grants-two-permits-for-counterprotests-of-unite-the-right Nah, they both had permits. And the Nazis surrounded the counterprotestors with flaming torches, which looked ridiculous in still photos, but when you have a flaming object being waved in your face, it is a specific tactic meant to intimidate and cause fear. Literally used by angry mobs forever.

TLDR: more whining from the loony left wing pickle sniffers!

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