Is this film actually any good?

Is this film actually any good?
I'm not religious at all

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One of the best Jesus films ever made user. Watch it

Don't care about jesus, but ok I'll watch it

It's also not entierely based on the Bible but uses Gnostic text (i.e. passages rejected by early Christians) to tell this story of Jesus who is not as heroic or God-like that the Bible makes him out to be but rather he is more weak struggling until at the end he gets the strength to become actual Jesus and sacrifice himself.

Is really well made.

If Zack Snyder ever made a Jesus movie, it would be this

Watch the Gospel According to St. Matthew, it's directed by a commie jew but manages not to indulge in LE EDGY HERESY SO GROUNDBREAKING meme

Sorry not commie jew, commie homo

>If Zack Snyder ever made a Jesus movie, it would be this

Don't insult Scorsese like that you faggot

It's good, but if you're clueless about the Bible it might be a bit confusing.

The book is better and goes into more detail and it's easier to follow. The movie skips some parts.

all Jesus movies are the same but with different titles

>all Jesus movies are the same but with different titles
This isn't true at all.

Mel is literal torture porn whilst this one deals with Jesus overcoming Lust and feeling more human than God's son

>"All God wants to do is to push me off the edge"
Forgot the exact like but I loved this line delivery by Dafoe

>If Zack Snyder ever made a Jesus movie, it would be this
I can see why you would say that, but it's not really the same style.
Anyway, it's the story/book that makes this movie what it is more than the director.

Scorsese is generally overrated, though. He made some good movies, but most were mediocre and some bad (that Wall Street shit).

*tips the meme hat*

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The Gospel According to St. Matthew is still the greatest.

>I can see why you would say that, but it's not really the same style.
But it is.

Snyder likes to show humans and powerful characters that people regard as "Gods" (Batman, Superman) to be people struggling with addiction, weakness and demons inside of them and that is exactly what Scorsese does with Jesus.

He doesn't show Jesus as a God who is better than everyone else but as a suffering being who doesn't believe in himself.

>le torture porn meme

shut up

Be dumb and gay somewhere else.

Scorcese depicts Jesus as a leader, kicking the shit out of demons, and defying Rome.

Just because he's not an invincible Chuck Norris meme figure doesn't mean that he's struggling in every scene with weakness.

Snyder just used that theme in some of his movies, as did many others, it doesn't make it "his thing".

But The Last Temptation is more than just that, it shows the larger implications of his story and the gospels.
Trying to make Jesus into just another superhero shows lack of religious insight.

>depicts Jesus as a leader
>doesn't mean that he's struggling in every scene with weakness
He literally doesn't understand what's going on half the time. John tells him to just speak and god will do the rest. When he goes to the temple even he doesn't know what's going to happen.

>Scorcese depicts Jesus as a leader, kicking the shit out of demons, and defying Rome.
>Just because he's not an invincible Chuck Norris meme figure doesn't mean that he's struggling in every scene with weakness.
Did we even watch the same movie?

At least this user gets it

Jesus literally says that "God hates me" in one scene. He is a suffering guy and not a true believer in himself

>he accomplished all these things
>but he wasn't really sure how he was going to accomplish it or why
>ergo he's depicted as weak

You view things too simplistically.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE SACRIFICED?

>If Zack Snyder ever made a Jesus movie
>if

>scorsese directed movie
>there's not a freeze-frame shot and Jesus saying "so you're probably wondering how I ended up here"
>no Rolling Stones either
Shit movie

Kek

David Bowie playing King David?
certainly this is not a coincidence

>What are these snivelling semite salesmen doing in the temple?! Get out, you are turning my fathers house into a den of kikes! You'll pay for this... in Germany

the fuck? Why did Scorsese let Raimi add these alterations to the script? I don't remember this part in the bible

The movie is about that struggle with weakness and willpower. Jesus has the will to overcome what God asks of him, but that doesn't mean he isn't afraid in every scene. Human emotions don't turn on and off like a switch. Just because you're doing a brave act doesn't mean you aren't afraid. It's the most human of emotions, and the film at it's core is about humanizing Jesus.

>fear is the MOST human emotion
n'oh yeah, is it?

JCS is better.

It's the most humanizing at least. Everyone can relate to being afraid of something.

Sup Forums of today would bitch and moan about black Judas because the we wuz memes, but find me a semite jew with that voice I'm waiting.

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>I'm not religious at all
I'll tip my fedora twice for you today

>Proposing that Jesus would have to overcome to temptation of a normal human life in order for him to be able to endure the ordeal of the Crucifixion is "edgy".

I'll tip my crucifix

Literally the most Christian thing you can do, kneel yourself before the poor and the downtrodden.
If only they weren't also rapists and murderers.

>pedophile foot fetishist's lie gets wildly out of hand

It has one of the best soundtracks of all time
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Christians are a bunch of beta nu-males

>commie jew
>Pasolini
What the fuck am I reading.
He was a pedophile and that's it, and he used to criticize both NATO and Russia for different reasons, he foreseen idiocracy and propaganda through television and similar shows which frankly affects everyone.

Yeah I corrected myself in the next post. He was literally a homosexual pederast and a Marxist though. Look it up.

Have been since their inception though, it's only white rich westerners that think that Pope Francis is somehow a commie or that Christianism is any way, shape or form compatible with capitalism and the modern world.
Jesus literally said that it is easier for a camel to pass through a needle hole than for a rich man to get into heaven.
So when people criticize Francis but still declare themselves Sup Forums christians or some shit they're being obtuse at best and insincere at worst.

The Vatican, no shit, thinks Gospel According to St. Matthew is the best film depiction of Jesus.

No, orthodox Catholics who aren't Sup Forums tier do have legitimate qualms with Francis' papacy. Just go on /r/Catholicism

>Just go on /r/Catholicism
Oh the christian version of /r/atheism.

Fcking plebbitors

>judge not lest you be judge :^)
you're right though, they certainly are bad christians

>orthodox

I'm not Christian by the way(obviously so) so I don't like Francis because he meddles too much with politics while having literally no right to do so since temporal power=/=spiritual power, but when he talks about the poors and the inequality he's not straying too much from the gospels.

The Gospel is great but you're delusional if you think the controversy surrounding TLToC was disingenuous

Yes no doubt. It's not like everything a Pope does is bad just because some take major issue with other things he's done.

SMELLS OF PAGAN IDOLATRY IN HERE

>King David
Idiot

underrated

It's pretentious shit, Scorsese's worst by far.

>If Zack Snyder ever made a Jesus movie, it would be this
So avoid it like the plague?

It's based on a book written by a greek communist that Marty used as source material because making Jesus look like a loser made him feel better about his failed marriage. It's pretty boring, the "modern dialogue" is distracting, and it's full of unnecessary revisionism that doesn't really try to understand the human side of Jesus, but projects 20th century pop psychology onto him. That said, Dafoe and Bowie are great.

Kazantzakis admired Lenin but wasn't a committed communist, and became disillusioned with Bolshevik communism after the rise of Stalin. He was also a Christian, and remained a member of the Greek Orthodox Church all his life, in spite a campaign by the members of the clergy to have him excommunicated.

watch out we've got a biblical scholar over here

They did have him excommunicated.
I think they took it back only posthumously.

No, even Scorsese said it was shit in the commentary

>They did have him excommunicated.
It was rejected by the Orthodox leadership.

>Makes one good film.
>Disowns it.

>Christ getting nailed up on the cross
>Gimme Shelter starts playing

Bravo Marty

It's the best Christkino. I'm a non-Christian without any appreciation for Christianity either and I loved it.

>full of unnecessary revisionism that doesn't really try to understand the human side of Jesus
But that's the best thing this movie does, in direct contrast to Mel's Jesus who is an unfazed demigod from the start