Let's settle this once and for all. Did she do anything wrong?

Let's settle this once and for all. Did she do anything wrong?
The court of Sup Forums is now in session.

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> settling anything on Sup Forums

Go away with this cringe shit

Let us ask a simple question - was she convicted or not?
If she was - she did something wrong. If she wasn't - she didn't.
>inb4 hurr durr court was wrong
yeah, I am sure you know better.

Yes, she was a real jerk. Should she be imprisoned, however? No. There is free speech and then there is no free speech. There is absolutely zero ground between the two, no compromise. Jailing her shows that there is no free speech and if you disagree, then you are a giant faggot who should gas yourself in the nearest oven.

Stop making this same fucking shitty fucking thread you fucking useless fucking cunt.

Speech with the sole purpose to harm or advocate harm against others isn't considered free speech. I'm for free speech, but she coerced a mentally ill person for the lulz. Fuck that bitch. I hope her life is ruined.

Your crush is guilty op. Deal with it.

Free speech is already limited ingoramus

Then it isn't free speech. I'll let that sink in.

KEK

Shut up, we're discussing politics.

She violated the law.

SCOTUS case Schenk v United States:

"The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent."

It's not about what you want to do, it's about what's best for the group as a whole. in short, you are very wrong

She'll make a fine porn star. I can't wait for her to do anal.

After she gets out of prison for treason, some SJW company like Google will give her an overpaid job and a pat on the back.

politics are for grownups kiddo go ahead and re-read those text messages and then get mad

Google is their own company. They can do whatever they want to do; it's their money. Unless you're a communist, and you think you should be able to tell google what they can do. Are you a communist?

faggot

We don't care.

you are all fucking retarded kek! thank you for making my morning

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I didn't say anything about their rights to do it. I simply stated some SJW driven company will hire her for more money than she's worth and she'll be treated like a hero.

So both sides win on this.

I'm not wrong, at all. The absolute right to free speech - the right to say to any person or persons what you wish, at any time - does not exist. If it did, then the world albeit would be an extremely different place (with probably a few less billion people, because many simply can't handle the banter) but cases such as this wouldn't even make the news because she correctly exercised her right to tell her weak-willed boyfriend to kill himself.

We can debate semantics until we're blue in the face (and, for the record, falsely shouting "fire!" in a theater and causing a panic is a perfect example of absolute free speech at its finest) but at the very base level, speech is NOT free. Now put your head in that oven, sonny, and turn it on.

The bottom line is, if you're right she'll be fine.

But I don't see her walking away from this.

Also not the user you're responding to.

im pretty sure suicide is illegal? So she was failing to report a crime.

im not sure it is a very confusing case. o do believe in free speech and us saying "kys" all the time on here is pretty much the same

but she is a total bitch and im glad she's in jail.

Suicide is illegal because it's a crime to destroy government property.

Bush did 9/11, Aliens built the pyramids too right?

I have free speech and freedom of expression. Don't believe me?
Ill kill the POTUS right now, were hid bitch ads here in front of me. He's being a cuck and deserves death.
Of course that's my opinion.
If he were assassinated would I goto jail, no. There is no evidence besides my self expression, that I would nor did kill the pos potus.

Unless she pulled the trigger, its not her fault .
If she put him in a drug induced depression, yes. But then every psychiatrist would have to be convicted too.
As is, every 13yr old girl is guilty Of the dsame "crime" she "commit" .

Since that's the case, kys, all of you faggot. Proof or it never happened. Live stream on YouTube or Facebook. Say you did it in the name of jesus Jrisy, your molester. And ill go to jail.

yes, we get it. It's not absolutely free speech. When they built the constitution they put the Supreme Court there as well to adjust the constitution as needed as time passes.

The Supreme Court has placed certain limitations on the First Amendment.

So there has never been absolute free speech in the US because it always has the built-in limitation.

Tomorrow, there could be a case where the Supreme Court says OK go ahead and let everybody shout fire in a crowded theater. Let everyone be allowed to place death threats against anyone even the president. That's the beauty of America, shit changes all the time.

But at this time you have freedom of speech but it's understood that it is not absolute free speech.

Just the former. The latter is disinformation designed to make people that ask questions look bad.

Fail Check on phone... Check.

What made him mentally ill? do you have a history or did you just decide that based on what he did

>But at this time you have freedom of speech but it's understood that it is not absolute free speech.

Incorrect. "Freedom of speech" IS absolute free speech. To express as such by any other name while adding a different meaning, is entirely dishonest. "Freedom of speech" does not exist.

See previous post. Freedom of speech and expression at its finest.

If anything this supports her being innocent

False.

You conspiracy theorist retards are all the same kind of scum to the rest of us.

Aliens or JFK, same fag.

Are you attempting to make a gross generalisation of every person who asks questions they seemingly "aren't supposed to"? I used to be you. I honestly did. I worked hard, I studied hard and I socialized. I "played the game", as it were, "participated in the rat race".

Then I found out that the U.S. Government had conducted in the late-1940's and early-1950's, a series of experiments that many had speculated took place, but couldn't quite prove, until the files were found and declassified.

MK Ultra. Experiments to create the "perfect assassin" of an unwilling civilian, using hypnosis and psychotropics. This happened. Think about that. The scariest part? Nobody from the project was ever charged or convicted.

Now while you think about that, think about this. If the world's most-powerful government can experiment on its own people more than 60 years ago, what are they capable of, today?

THAT is why I ask questions. THAT is why I'm not afraid of being tarred with the same brush as idiots who watch Alex Jones and buy his stupid water filters. I woke up. Why don't you?

The problem with the USA is you're all cucked Pussy faggots. You don't stand for your freedoms you ignore process and let them be taken. You're all worse than Muslim extremists, at least they get out and fight for what they believe in. You chicks just QQ about it on Sup Forums and to your mom. Seriously, kys. Useless American faggots.

>Then I found out that the U.S. Government had conducted in the late-1940's and early-1950's
>MK Ultra

This is a conspiracy theorist go to.

The government does slimy shit, duh. But this doesn't translate into some secret Illuminati in the government bent on world domination.

It's much easier than all of that.

Look, I can't teach you the truths of the world, only Hydra can, you should join us.

PROVE ME WRONG... "legion". Wannabe hacker group that can't prove anything worth while.
PROVE ME WRONG FAGGOTS!
If you're so good. Destabilize the federal government and make way for a real leader. You can't, you're all to scared. Bitches.

She violated the good samaritan law which requires if you can't help, don't make things worse and if you can help you better. It's rare to get caught but that's a fucking roastie for ya.

She starred in Valerian and the city of a thousand planets. That was her crime.

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Hydra doesn't exist. It's an "organisation" designed to attempt to make fools of people who ask uneasy questions of one's government. Does that revelation make you uneasy?

>posting this shit on Sup Forums
>doesn't matter what Sup Forums thinks
>op is a faggot

hehe poop

We just did that. The fact he is hated by the establishment on the right and left ,who have been using corporate media to whip useful idiots (like you for example) into a frenzy, should be proof, but in general people are too fucking stupid (like you for example) to realize, so they just continue acting like fucking retards (like you for example).

yea, he should totally eat a log of andy sixx's shit tho

That's what we want you to think.

But if you're really ready to wake up, meet us here.
40.7459396,-73.8467326

On AB1331

poopy munch

You always elevate the level of discourse wherever you go?

Go get your own thread faggot, we're busy.

is that Andy Sixx's location.... plz say yes senpaii

i made this thread dipshit read the original pic

get my own thread? Did you read the OP pic

We've already discussed the problems with free speech, get fucked shitfag

sorry gang!

We do have absolutely free speech.

But certain innate social laws prevent you from saying certain things.

I mean, you could ignore those rules, nothing's stopping you. People will just find you repulsive as a result and never speak to you.

"We" did nothing, he did that on his own. How about you retards stop being major faggots. There has not been one incident "legion" had part in where they did NOT publicly claim it. Don't be a nigger, faggot.

>This is a conspiracy theorist go to.
No it's a historical fact, and a matter of public record.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

You could have just said yes...

"Innate social laws" and "absolute free speech" are mutually-exclusive and a direct violation of one another. I'm sure you'll understand this some day, just as you'll understand that Michelle Carter's imprisonment is yet another unjust violation of the free speech that has been fought over for centuries. If you disagree with this, then you're setting precedent after precedent and you, too, will be taken away for "thought crimes".

I'm not arguing this didn't happen. I'm saying this is your go to to justify Aliens and the Wardrobe to Narnia and shit.

The Nazis did far worse experiments to people, this shit happens, there is no greater scheme going on.

>We've already discussed the problems with free speech
The only problem with freespeech is people who think America is backward shithole where speech is regulated so it doesn't offend weak minded people, like Ausfailia or some other abbo infected sewer.

SOME ONE GETS IT!
*tips fedora*

what about free poop sucking?

Go to India or Andy six house for shit sucking.

Congratulations. You've rendered whatever argument you were attempting to make, completely null and void.

Oh are talking about a bunch of faggot larping as an infamous hacker group that was merely a front for the FBI? Or something NEW! and DIFFERENT!

Who cares!

Grooming someone to commit suicide over months and months while also being in a position of trust seems like manslaughter to me.

Also, these social laws 're created by the people, not the government. The collective conscious will decide what is acceptable and make its decisions from that.

You can't have humans and not have social laws, it's impossible, this Free speech will always be mildly restricted to those who wish to respect those laws.

Im not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying it's the way the world works.

I legit feel sorry for her. I think if you look at the history of how he wore her down, and not just her posts from the last 48 hours of his life, you see that he was fully responsible for his actions and even tried to take her out with him.
Plus, I am a free speech absolutist.

>infamous hacker group

We're talking about Sup Forums, I hope you realize.

No hackers here, just a bunch of neckbeards basking in the credit of people who would rather not be identified, and let these plebs dance around on cloud nine.

not what happened

It was a mind control operation and it is working EXACTLY as intended, why do you think Richard Helms destroyed all the evidence? The only reason anybody knows anything is because a storage area full of documentation was overlooked in the purge. You're just helping with the psyop.

What point was that, since you clearly know which post is mine?

Again, I'm not disputing shit was being researched.

Alex Carrel successfully swapped the heads of two monkeys for fucks sake.

Ancient greeks fucked young boys in bathouses for hundreds of years, can you take that and just conclude this is a norm now?

I'm saying you can't use that as a basis for all your other radical dipshit ideas.

The smart people distanced themselves from that shit years ago. One more year for me and the statute of limitations is up, kek.

Then what did? I was under the impression this was an ongoing conversation...until she prodded him into doing it, most likely using all of those little manipulations women are notorious for.

it's a great dumping ground .

Most of these faggot forgot that Ebaums always did it, and now they've become the fall guy consisting of teenagers shelling millions out every year to WB for Guy Fawkes masks to be able to dance around as leet hacktivists.

>I am a free speech absolutist
That is not a means to justify talking someone into committing suicide.

She spent months telling him not to do it, not to give up, to seek help, and he said over and over and over that the only thing that would bring him peace was to end it. So she was worn down and agreed and encouraged him to do what he'd been telling her for months that he desperately wanted to do. BTW, she herself was mentally off (bulimic) and on meds. Also 17.
I cringed at your 'wiles of women' remark.

Second.

This is why telemarketer scammers are arrested.

now Sup Forums uses Sup Forums as their bitch...how the mighty have fallen...

he tried to talk HER into suicide
"romeo and juliet" crap
also, seeI'm frankly ashamed of Sup Forums (of all places) wanting to criminalize mean texts.

no, they are arrested for fraud
she encouraged him to commit suicide, and suicide isn't even a crime

Got something to say about Alyssa Bustamonte too?

She was manipulated by the devil, wasn't her fault.

Maybe the slenderman girls were misled by creepypasta, and they can't be held accountable.

I am not criminalizing mean texts I am suggesting that as a society we have to draw boundries, this was a jury trial so a group of her peers decided her act needed to be clearly delineated as prohibited in no uncertain terms. That's how a society works. If she believes there was an error or a constitutional issue she has the right to appeal it, but I don't think she will get an appeal, this isn't a death penalty case. The question, to me, is the sentence, I don't any point in destroying her entire life.

But...but... Slender man is real, if you believe he's real... Just like "god".

If anything this case proves the American people are ALL bitchmade cucks. They don't know their own freedoms and should all burn in "hell".

>wiles of women
Wow you sound like VC Andrews, lol. She should have told someone competent in dealing with suicidal ideation, not doing finding help, encouraging it because you were "worn down" is not going to get anybody acquitted, that's outrageous.

>one girl sends texts confirming for the recipient that he should do what he has said a thousand times he wanted to do
>another girl strangles and stabs to death a 9 year old
totally the same thing, I see that now

that she was convicted is outrageous

She's already appealing it, and she was released on a stay because the judge recognized that she had legitimate grounds for an appeal.
Your faith in jurors not to be great halfwit retards is ill founded, I think.

forgot pic

I now know what the cops must think when someone tells them "I know my rights" because most people don't, or they don't know how to apply them. That's not an accident, people are inherently lazy so our schools are used to make reading and acquiring information, work, a drudgery. Natural human curiosity must be destroyed and that's what public education is, everywhere. Everyone is indoctrinated into obedience and over a series of years taught the government is omniscient, otherwise, it all comes crashing down

you just lost the case
without the pic, I can not click

Not really, not if the sentence is reasonable, look you need to chill your whiteknighting for her isn't going to get you fucked by her, the roastie was toastied.

Just die asshole.

You keep getting told that yes, she obviously did do something wrong. She is the epitome of an attentionwhore. She embodies everything Sup Forums hates about women. This whore should be happy with the light sentence she got.

Must be why I challenged everything I was told was truth in school. Even through my college years. I prefer self education nowadays. Compare and contrast when two "fact" butt heads... The most notable contradiction is the "bible". Idiotsthat follow religion are the worst, or the best in the eyes of the government. As they don't question information being fed to them. Even when its clearly disinformation. This is what disgusts me about Americans. You want fact, but preach fiction. Two faced pieces of shit. All need to treated like the Jews in WW2 and burn.

Oh shit, that rhymes.

Not guilty.

That chewbacca defense, everytime.