Hey Sup Forumsros gonna go to the casino with $500 to play blackjack with. Need some tips...

Hey Sup Forumsros gonna go to the casino with $500 to play blackjack with. Need some tips. Trying to make a buncha money.

If i dont I'll jump off a bridge

I made 200% gains today, for literally nothing, a few clicks, trading the bitcoin fork BTC.

Enjoy losing all your money playing fucking cards.

I mean its my choice right lol I dont know bitcoin shit.

its not ALL my money

I actually went to the casino just yesterday. I played 1-2 no limit hold 'em though, and managed to double my money. If you're good enough in poker I suggest you do that. My friend lost a bunch of cash in blackjack because of the bet prices

yeah, because it takes SOooo long to learn how to buy low sell high. Jesus Christ.

if you don't know how to perfect play you get better odds just making a banker bet at baccarat

if you're just trying to make a small amount of money do the martingale betting system

but obviously it's not foolproof. you'll probably win, but you could also lose all your money

also, martingale works better with baccarat than blackjack, because blackjack has decision points that require you to increase your bet to get the best odds

This. Play poker or don't play at all. Any other game, you play against the bank so your EV will be negative whatever happens.

sure, throw your money away, rather than invest it. because you're fucking stupid

but hey, those few seconds when you were shitting yourself pretending to be a man, those where great, weren't they?

how much money have you made investing? I've made 10s of thousands. But he asked for advice on his afternoon in the casino

>walk up to table
>put all $500 down on one hand
>50.5% chance you'll lose all your $$
>49.5% chance you'll double it

best odds you're going to get, friend.
the longer you play the more that 1% edge is gonna fuck you.

HMM just looked up where I'm going to gamble and the ante for every bet under $50 is .50 cents. and every bet over $50 is $1. the fuck

today alone, 20K USD, purely based upon what I had in the wallets when the fork took place (free BCC per BTC). Kept automatically selling high and buying at the dip. 200% gains in my pocket change.

Damn. Intense.

you're gonna lose your 500$..

likely already gone, he's either fighting or fucking his male friend out of regret as we speak

OKAY so what if I take your advice and trade bitcoin, I don't know where to even start.

>play the table with the fewest decks
>play by the book
>go with a group of people that will do the same so your group can dominate the table, more players going by the book decreases the house's edge over the group as a whole
>if there are other people at the table, bet small until you can determine if they are playing by the book
>if they are, start betting big
>if they aren't, leave the table
>every time you get a blackjack, put half that hand's winnings into your pocket and don't bet with it
although if you are serious about making money with your $500, then you are better off putting it into a certificate of deposit

>Any other game, you play against the bank so your EV will be negative whatever happens.
you can occasionally get positive ev playing games with a progressive jackpot

but whether or not a player likes jackpot games is more a matter of personal taste than the difference between losing 1% to the house or gaining a 1% edge

you buy bitcoin, you trade for other coins. Buy low, sell high. If you can't perform a binary operation like that there's something wrong with you.

>more players going by the book decreases the house's edge over the group as a whole

This sounds like bullshit.
This sounds like "if a penny flips up tails 5 times in a row it will almost certainly come up heads next time"
because it implies that the win/loss odds depend on what has come before.

>every time you get a blackjack, put half that hand's winnings into your pocket and don't bet with it

this IS bullshit, it has nothing to do with betting strategy and little to do with money management.

This is the only way

It's obvious from your comment that you don't have money. This is what you get to do when you have disposable income, you play with it. Sure you can invest 500 and "double it" but that's not as fun when you can throw away 500 bucks. Never gamble with money you can't loose but when you can, go wild

he's just trying to promote his stupid spam image that he posted in the first reply of this thread

"buy low sell high" is just a dumb guy's idea of how easy it is to make a bunch of money

the value of bitcoin happens to be skyrocketing right now, but lots of people are going to get caught with their pants down when they buy in at what ends up being the top

>This sounds like "if a penny flips
if you were just placing bets and not hitting, splitting, doubling, or surrendering; then yes
but by playing by the book you are actively adjusting the odds of winning on each hand

>nothing to do with betting strategy and little to do with money management
yes
and I added it because OP said he wanted to make money
not that he wanted to spend all $500 on the entertainment of playing blackjack

I do have money.

I have it from making trades that are blindingly obvious rather than games of cards and so on.

Clearly you don't understand the very basics of crpyto currency. It'd take you less than an hour to know all you had to in order to play the crypto game like you would cards, except with less chance of failure.

You seem contempt at being a failure

Jumping off a bridge is me being edgy k?

I got a bonus check of a little over 600, I dont have a GF, no kids, no car to pay off or anything, bills are always paid. Just wanna see what I can do with it. Gambling seemed like a fun thing to do. I'm not a broke fool but making a quick 1k or something seems like fun to me.

>by playing by the book you are actively adjusting the odds of winning on each hand

Of course, if you play correctly you're going to improve your odds of winning.

But:
>more players going by the book decreases the house's edge over the group as a whole

this bullshit says you're going to do better because OTHER people are playing better.
Other people's play style may be irritating,
but they aren't going to effect your odds of winning.

While I agree poker is probably the best but I guarantee that is you don't play as a regular you won't make shit. I used to play daily in vegas for cash games all we do as regulars is seriously wait for non regulars to take their entire stacks.

Hands down best game to go on is Craps. Seriously 2x better odds than blackjack. Just bet the pass line, then back up the bet and place a bet on 6 or 8. You can double 500 in 30 ish min no problem if you have control to not bet other dumb bets.

Buy low sell high is literally the stock market, or any other market, id you don't understand this there's something wrong with you.

BTC is going up, true. but it's somewhat irrelevant when you're trading different crypto markets and cashing out the fiat ($, £ whatever)

> but lots of people are going to get caught with their pants down when they buy in at what ends up being the top

you're retarded. This literally makes no sense. Always fun to see people who understand nothing contribute tho

go only $10/max hand for each $100 out of your $500 total.

make $100 for each 5 $100s you have to $1000.
ive never been to a casino before but if they let you do $1 hands it can never hurt to test your luck several times in a row with cheap hands.

Its better to win a low bet than to lose a big one. it helps if you have 2 other people come with you, one to help you think things through and the other to simply tell you no each and every time.

$500 is enough to make a couple grand IF you work slow and walk to it. I'd say if you aren't strongly willed then your best chance is getting up to $1-5K and walking... if you think you can then who knows maybe $20K is reachable.

it only makes no sense if you assume that the price literally can't do down and then never go back up, which it can

might help to add that "playing by the book" changes with the number of players just like it does with the number of decks and where the dealer stands
by being able to see more cards, especially in a game with few decks, you are better able to
determine the house's chance of busting

for example
the more 10s are showing, the less likely it is the house will bust

and, you seem to miss the part where I said
>the group as a whole
that is why it is better to go as a group and share the winnings (or more likely the loses)

nope, retard, that's why you cash out to fiat when your ahead, then buy back in if you know what you're buying into. Christ you're fucking stupid

I like this advice. I have the basic strategy of black jack down. Have played a few times and Have come out on top each time but nothing ridiculous. good advice user

and what do you do when you buy in then it goes down a little? cash to fiat and take your loss? or wait for it to go back up? if you wait, but it goes down some more, then what? chicken out and take your bigger loss, or wait some more? then it goes down some more...

do you get it? if you're taking your gains every time it goes up a little bit that's great--as long as it keeps going up. But you're betting a lot to win a little.

right now there's lots of room for bitcoin to go up OR down. Will bitcoin ever be worth a million bucks per coin? Probably not, but it's not impossible. But it could also crash back down to $100 per coin when people realize that their money is better spent on a house than 10 bitcoins, and all the prospectors abandon ship

Where your bridge jumping shoes when you go

>the more 10s are showing, the less likely it is the house will bust

What you're talking about has left the world of basic strategy
and dipped its toes into card counting.

I'm not saying that's wrong,
I'm just saying you're basically giving advice that's useless to someone
unless they have enough experience to take advantage of it.

Cpunting cards is actually quite easy to do/learn

Semi Pro gambler here can confirm that for once in the history of Sup Forums someone actually knows what they're talking about. You sir deserve a million (you)'s for this. No joke this is the right way to do it if you're a noob. I'd suggest learning to count cards as well.

Never played craps. i'm not sure the casino im going to has it.

the right way being the martingale system?

thanks

what games do you play?

it depends what you're trying to do

do you want to probably win, but only win a little bit? then, yes, martingale, but if you follow it to its logical conclusion (which is the plan), then you're risking your whole stack to win a little

martingale won't give you winning odds, otherwise everybody would do it and the casino would go out of business. It's just a system that will take a game that is 50/50 and make it so you're betting a lot to win a little

if your goal is to double your money then what that other guy said is correct, bet it all in one shot (blackjack isn't the best game to do this though, because if you get dealt an 11 you want to have enough money ready to double down)

( is me)

and I don't know if your heart is set on blackjack or what, if that's the game you enjoy the most then that's the one you should play

but the reason I brought up baccarat in my first post, is because it's incredibly easy (there are no decision points during the game, you just place your bet before it starts then watch what happens), and of all the games on the floor it has the best odds (with the possible exception of perfect play at some blackjack variants). AND it's easy to calculate how much expected value you're losing to the house. You lose about 1% to the house on a banker bet. So, say you walked up to the baccarat table and bet your whole $500 on banker. It's about the same as if you bet $500 on a coin flip, but the guy you're playing against charged you $5 to play. You lose $5 to the house in the form of odds, and the rest is up to lady luck

Always play the table minimum.

why?

interesting...I have to see if the casino I'm going to has it there.

the only shitty part about baccarat is that even though it's easy to play, it's kind of tricky to understand, unless you're chinese.

but if you trust the dealer to be doing his shit properly, and the other players to point it out if he makes a mistake, they know when they are or aren't supposed to draw another card

>(blackjack isn't the best game to do this though, because if you get dealt an 11 you want to have enough money ready to double down)

I'm the guy who said to put it all on one bet,
and this comment is correct -
the major downfall is that the benefits of a split/double-down bet are baked into the average odds,
and if you don't have the capital to expand your bet that way,
the house advantage probably moves to 2-3% I'm guessing.

I am not a gambler per say but poker pro as well, I agree that OP has 0 chances of winning long term without studying the game but on the short run probably better than BJ. I'll take your word about craps, never played it.

>the only shitty part about baccarat

For me, the shitty part about baccarat is that it's a boring game.
I remember when I read the Bond Casino Royale book,
where the entire plot revolves around a Baccarat (Chemin?) game,
I was baffled until I found the rules of the game in a bookstore (pre-Internet).
Once I saw how mind-numbingly simple the game was, I was astounded
that everyone talked it up so big.

One of the best decisions in the newest Casino Royale film
was making the game into texas hold'em.

Also, poker pro at 1/2 are pretty much just as bas as recreational players.

well, yeah, that's true

I like coin-flip type games, but I wouldn't try and convince anybody else that they're exciting

it's really only fun if you play over your head lol

I dont know poker so I wont be doing this. I am still considering a lot. throw down 500 on one hand, work the game and try my best at making the most of my money at blackjack or learning baccarat, if the casino even has it.

I'm the one that keeps mentioning baccarat, but it's only a good choice if you really give a shit about the difference between losing 1% to the house or losing 2% to the house

honestly, you'll probably have a more enjoyable time playing blackjack

I agree. I mean I've played BJ before and I think I'm gonna "study" before going in all naive and stupid.

Whatever game you play, you can't go in full bankroll and expect something good to happen. All casino games involve a lot of variance, it's all about managing your capital to minimize risks and maximize profits. Choose a game and learn about it, there is lots of material available online. But, only poker will yield a real positive EV on the long run, don't waste your time learning a game if only to be banned when you actually master it (basically any game where you play against the bank).

Always split 10's and face cards

i like your style!

as far as studying up goes I recommend wizardofodds.com to learn about any game, whether you're just looking up the rules, or the finer points of the odds and strategy

the site is run by a professor of Casino Math at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas,