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Why should I use a modem

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Every says I should , an I'm stupid not doing so , but give no valid reason why I should

easier cable management as no fucking cables

just as quick if using the 5GHz band instead of the 2.4

Multiple antennas (MiMo) is just as good as cat6

>Multiple antennas (MiMo) is just as good as cat6

No. It's not, even remotely.

Op that's not a modem, it's a router.

But the cable company gives me a free one , but people tell me to use it in modem mode with said modem , is it worth it an why , keep,it simple

>Why should I use a modem
posts router
KYS

I just googled modem that was a image that came up ... what's the difference..

Modem converts signals. Router routes and controls traffic.
Typically, your internet provider gives you a modem, you connect the router after that, between the modem and your devices.

So cable comes through wall into modem then into router . Is it more secure, what dose the modem do ?

is there any benifit to owning my own modem? can i get something better then what the cable company offers?

Are modems still a thing then? Because most houses just have ethernet ports on the wall, into which you can plug a router or a cable straight to the device.

this bait is cold and lifeless. will not take.

>Why should I use a modem
well how the fuck would you get access to the internet then, you technophobe

Not bait , was taking about changing IP address on virgin media on a forum an some dude said I should be using a modem but wouldn't expand on this

Plus there's a setting on the wifi router that says modem mode , why is it there if I don't need one

Aight, I guess I'm just confused. When I lived in my family's house (which is pretty old, built in the 60s), the connection still came through a phone line (So I guess the maximum speed is 21 Mbit/s or something). Now what we had plugged into this was a modem/router combo I guess. Now I live in an apartment house, where we have wall ethernet ports. I guess these connect to a modem somewhere, probably with connections to all apartments centralized in one place. We only have access to one ISP, but a 100 Mbit/s connection comes included in the rent.

Nice meme arrow skills

It is there if you want to also use the router as a modem. If you had a separate modem, you'd have this off.

Shit I was wrong it's 433 Mbps vs 1Gb but if you compare price to several devices worth of cat 6 or just get a router.
Also people can sniff the data between your device and the router if wireless.

So wired is safer

>Why should I use a modem
it gives you internet access

did you mean to ask why you should use a router?
because it provides more ethernet ports and a firewall and wifi

Ok ty , sort of makes sense ,

I'm not sure what I meant tomask , just keep getting confusing info .. this is the best explanation I'v gotten ty

Hardwire; then no matter which router you use your connection is better period

Modem: Works over telephone line (dial up connection) Can be wireless.

Router: Works with ADSL cable, usually coming out of a optic fiber adapter that's driven to your house. All consumer grade routers are wireless.

This thread: Makes no fucking sense. user, you are using a router. Everyone's using a router. Except some Oldfag in some government shithole connecting with a shitty dial up connection from AOL.

I got my sons pc an consoles wired , but laptops , iPads ,phones , an tv media shit just wifimconnected

if your ISP gives you a box, it could be a modem/router combo which needs nothing else.
you can still add a better router and put the thing in modem mode, if it sucks.

sometimes they just give you a modem and you can connect to that with one computer.
or you can connect a router and have more network ports and some network services, like a firewall.
if you don't even know what your network requirements are, just get a current tp-link or anything similar mid-range.
most high-priced residential routers are now for gamers (advanced network features and quality of service) or media junkies (high bandwidth devices for 4k in-home streaming etc.).

Modems translate isp signals into something your computer can read. You use a router to give yourself wifi.
You need a modem to connect to internet, so unless you want to go back to being a caveman, don't get rid of it.
You need a router if you want to get WiFi. (and more Ethernet plugs)
You need a switch if you want more Ethernet plugs, but don't want wifi.

Nope, thats not right. Also modems works with ADSL.

Modems receive the signals, DSL and Cable, and as written before, the routers are used for the homenetwork, give IPs to the devices and so on.

Thanks guys , I get it now .. I'm old , normally only lurk for the teen porn . But you've all been a great help I wasn't even going to ask in case you all went nuts on me

close, but not quite correct

>Router: Works with ADSL cable
only if it has an ADSL
>modem

Fuck I'm confused again . Do I need a modem if I have a router ..

the majority of residential routers should be modem/router combos, but some aren't.

if you only have a normal network port in the wall, then there's likely a modem and a router in the basement.
and you can either plug in directly (unsafe) or connect another router to it.

whats the model name of whatever you have?

No, fuck you. That's a complete misnomer. What you guys were talking about is the fucking transceiver. Old technicians that don't invest time in looking new technologies got stuck calling them modems.

Stop.

...

A modem "converts" in house signals and sends them out of the house and vice versa. A router "routes" traffic to a client (pc/console/smartTv/...) so that each client only gets the information/signals it needs and not the information from other clients, most routers also have a wifi antenna so clients like laptops can connect via WiFi.

Most modern routers come with a modem so you dont need two devices. the problem with ISP routers/modems is that sometimes the ISP can spy on you through your modem. also for most ISPs the routres are very weak, aftermarket routers are mostly faster (10 Gigabit LAN, 5GHz WiFi, multiple antennas,..)

>transceiver
yea whatever, the part that's not a router.

Super hub 2ac. Just from the viewing media company with the tv package

I'll leave you guys in one of these until you learn your shit.

Modem stands for Modulation/Demodulation and is the standard for transferring directly from computer to computer over a phone line.

What your cable company gives you should more correctly be called a "Network Adapter", b/c they use a "secure" method of transferring data through their own network to the real internet. All companies use this method.

A router is the central hub in your house that either allows you to send data to your other computers on your network and/or allows you to send data to and from an internet connection via the "cable Co's network Adaptor".
Get it now?

I will fuck myself later, thank you :)
And its not a misnomer, even ISP call their deveices modems in their manuals.
But there is a confusion about the words, yes. Modem is modem. A modem receive the signal from the cable or telephonebox. But often wghen you say router, you mean a device, which combine the function of the modem and a router.

the trolling is getting out of hand, tbh

>cable or telephonebox.
Cable boxes do not need modulation or demodulation, they need decoding. The language they use is to confuse the masses to the facts of how it works.

Because both industrially and in the normal consumer sphere, router already meant that.

You don't need another one. What troll-user needs is a better router.

Enjoy.

>being this autistic
kek
nigger, do you even OSI?

I promise you, 99% of the people here are using modems, not transceivers. if you have fiber to your premise, you MIGHT have just a transceiver, but more likely you are on an INED where the fiber just reaches the front of your neighborhood and copper to your house, in which case you are modulating the data. and if you're on cable, it's 100% a modem.

but point remains, OP need to stop calling routers "modems"

>Virgin Media Super hub 2ac

that is a cheap but common router.
just test it, it should do everything you need. ...not very well.

Not much difference aside from routers being superior in every way. And I'm talking cheap pleb tier consumer grade ones here, and not enterprise ones, which are even more superior.

I'm high af and thought that was some kind of muslim mecca UFO

wat

Wasn't trolling , but thanks for the simple answer , I don't need one is all I wanted to know

Nope bitch, I live in Europe. Fiber to premise is basically law. PLUS the modulation happens in the nodes, and the dsl signal travels directly to the router.

So either way this didn't make any fucking sense at any point. So I'm just going back to horny mode.

What you have on your oppic is a router, not a modem.

You need modem to **mo**dulate and **dem*odulate electrical signal.

Kek

I'll never use the m word again

Thanks

BECAUSE YOU NEED TO MODULATE AND DEMODULATE

If you didn't use one you couldn't shit post like OP.

MODULATION AND DEMODULATION HAPPENS IN NODES TARDY TAR. NOBODY DE-MODULATES AT INPUT POINT ANYMORE. NO COMPANY USES FUCKING LOW TIER COPPER TO DSL ANYMORE.

> Gordon freeman, if you are up there, please, give me patience.

OSI model
modems operate at layer 1, which is the physical layer. they convert analog signals into digital ones so they can be read by other devices.
switches operate at layer 2, the data link layer. the physical data is organized into frames and transported intra network. switching also occurs at this layer, which is why the devices are called switches. when the devices on your home network are communicating with each other, that is done at this layer.
routers operate at layer 3, the network layer. frames of data are organized into packets and can now be transported across networks. this is where the famous TCP/IP protocol operates and allows different networks to communicate with each other, aka the internet.

the other 4 layers are host based and are controlled by the user.

and the OSI model is a Guideline. Modems are not in homes anymore, not by any modern standards. Period.

now you're the autist.

all that pointless info would not have improved the post you complained about.

So I don't need to buy a modem ? Are they outdated/useless extinct tech .. just stick with my router

Exactly, except in some remote outback places like North-western Canada, and they are still using the old school standards they are known for.

>Modems are not in homes anymore

very wrong. in vast stretches of our so-called first world people still use docsis cable modems.

That's a router, and don't buy that one.

Here, let me explain:
The modem (not what OP posted) mediates your connection (DSL, fiber, cable, etc.) between your ISP and you. Your modem's 'output' is usually an ethernet port.

Your router (which is what OP pictured, but there are much better ones to buy) mediates the connection from the various different devices in your home, and your modem. Because your modem can only actually talk to one device.

Your switch is what allows you to connect multiple devices to your router at the same time. think 'power strip' for ethernet. The switch does not do what your router does. Most routers will have at least a small built in 4 port switch. (The one OP pictured I believe does have this.)

Your Access Point (if you have one) mediates the connection between wireless devices and your router / switch. The access point is often thought of as a 'wireless switch'. A lot of routers have a built in access point (much like the one OP pictured).


Now, there are even combination modem, router, switch, and access point units. Often simply referred to as a 'modem router combo'.
TL;DR:
Your ISP will likely supply you with your modem. Your ISP will potentially supply you with a modem router combo. (ick)

You want a stand-alone router, a stand-alone switch, and a stand-alone access point.

Mikrotik Routers are cheap and good if you're not technically challenged.

TP Link makes decent cheap switches.

Ubiquiti makes some very good Access Points (if you need more than one especially) called the UniFi series.
If you only need one access point, consider Engenius access points. They're cheaper but almost as good or better depending on use case.

buy a router and use the cable network adapter as a gateway device for the internet by hooking them together via Ethernet cable.

A docsis cable modem is not a modem, ffs.

read the thread, it's a network adapter that allows endpoints to send data through cable co's network in a relatively secure but traceable fashion.

Leave it, user. People can believe what they want.

i draw the point for not calling something the way it's called when even the rfc calls it that way. sorry, bro, but. you're weird.

tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3256

youtu.be/2rrXCLolwww

or the ITU-T

itu.int/rec/T-REC-J.222.0/en

Op here .. thank you for simplifying that for me