Other than MUH DEGENERACY please make one good point why weed should be illegal

You can't honestly think that marijuana should remain illegal while drugs like alcohol and tobacco are considered a-okay to consume and legal, it's just retarded tb.h

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its just a Phase, you will get over it.

It makes you stupid.

it doesnt kill you but transforms you into a brainless monkey who does nothing else but smoke pot.
it literally turns you stupid by proxy.
additionally its really just a phase for many highschool and college kids. once your out of education/academia you got other things to worry about than fucking blazing it up all day.
or you know, you dont in which case youre transforming into a useless retard.

I used to share the same opinion, but one of my friends recently really went downhill because of it, he never took anything else not even alcohol. He can't think right anymore, some scary shit.

DEVILS WEED!

This is not a side effect of the weed

Either all drugs should be banned, and yes that includes tobacco and alcohol, or no drugs should be banned. In an ideal world, nothing would need to be banned and people wouldn't abuse anything.
Personally I don't care about it, as long as you are smoking your shit (whatever it is) far away from me, as I cannot stand the smell.

We don't need any more legal intoxicants, especially the kind whose users are oblivious to its effect on the mind.

Must suck to not have any self control.
Do you live in fear of being addicted to caffeine, sugar, trans-fats, porn, alcohol, running, water, video games, aspirin, huffing, adrenaline, meth, arson, gambling...

I love how these threads show how hypocritical the Sup Forums hivemind is.

>muh freedom, muh personal responsibility

>NOOOO!!! WEED IS BAD I DONT WANT PEOPLE SMOKING IT KEEP IT ILLEGAL!!!!

>Do you live in fear of being addicted to caffeine, sugar, trans-fats, porn, alcohol, running, water, video games, aspirin, huffing, adrenaline, meth, arson, gambling...
who doesnt

This

You forgot
>Protip: you can't

They probably had problems before smoking.
Addiction isn't a problem, it's been proven to be symptom.

Black people get arrested for it all the time which I think is funny so I want it to remain illegal

Well no shit people have no self control .Why do you think so many people are fat?

>does smoking weed make you stupid?
yes
>should we live in a nanny-state that tells adults what they can and can't do?
no, part of what america great is that you're allowed to be an idiot.

DUDE

I am 100% for legal drugs but if you are homeless trying to get gubment bennys and fail a drug test you get no bennys.

Because 90% of the time they've got other issues and they eat to cope.
Normal people can easily control their appetite.

>Smoking weed makes you stupid!!!!11!!

You sound like 4th graders

Also, citation needed

why not just legalize heroin and cocaine

it fucks with your god damned brain

This thread again. Whether you smoke it or not, you should support the legalization of marijuana. If you want it to stay illegal, you're basically saying it's okay to give up your freedoms and let the government have more control over what you can and can not do in your life. It's disgusting that cops can literally put you behind bars and ruin your life because you have some plant buds in your pocket. Do any of you people that want it to remain illegal know why it became illegal in the first place?

As for people that claim "smoking makes you stupid" or "it ruined my life," these things only happen to people that are already weak minded and make poor decisions regardless of the plant. There are far more successful weed smokers than burnouts in the world. You would be surprised how many successful people you come across on a daily basis (assuming you actually leave your house) that smoke every day.

All drugs should be legal to be honest familia.

So does skydiving, fishing, meditation, sex, dirt biking, etc.

Not true. The only time I feel like a normal human is when I smoke.

>same guy who says weed cures cancer without citation

I don't believe weed cures cancer.

But those vices have some form of regulation or authority to control them. Or at the very least, evidence is acknowledged that if taken beyond moderation negative effects will occur.

What pot-heads fail to grasp, with such effort put into glamorizing marijuana as the plant that will save the human race in order to legalize it, it completely overshadows the potential for peer reviewed research into it's side effects to be acknowledged.

What has to be kept in mind is that it's a mind altering substance. Just like alcohol, over time the effects become psychologically ingrained into your personality. In other words you aren't you without your pot. What's your life then other than one high to the next when the moderate doses aren't cutting it anymore?

apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain.aspx

Smoking weed DOES make you stupid

cuz weed is just an herb bro. like it comes from dirt n shit.

but seriously that argument is a red herring.

Things are illegal because the undesirables in society need their own job market.

i only like the fact that weed is illegal because it makes 420 blaze it faggots upset.

>Frequent use
>Three or more waves

Abusing any drug including caffeine or alcohol will lead to problems.

Alcohol kills brain cells but you don't hear anybody saying

>Drinking will make you stupid!

Nobody is saying you should smoke every day for years at a time.

>not healthy
>addicting
>hurts others around you if consumed by smoking

alcohol is being consumed mostly on weekends unlike weed
ciggarets should also be illegal

there's literally no reason except contrarian pissbabies on Sup Forums. Marijuana can be pretty effective for various medicinal purposes, and is much healthier for patients than a lot of prescription drugs they could otherwise take.

depends from person to person. Was a regular smoker, and it made me crazy insightful. Actually made me redpilled. Lurked on Sup Forums almost daily for 3years while being pro-EU, Obama, Labourparty globalist. Still, what made me redpilled was the weed and the ability it gave me to pop out of the bubble society created around me.
Havent smoked in a couple of months because of exams tho. Cant get anything done while smoking.
this isnt the same as being dumb however. it just makes you so just dont really care about day-to-day stuff because you see things from a different angle while high.
your comment just shows how fucking biased you are and that you never tried weed more than like 10 times ever.

Because it is for the weak minded and promotes an irresponsible lifestyle. Other than that I don't care. Legalize it and fuck up your life.
The problem here is that in my country if someone fucks up his life, the government will give him/here taxpayer money to live and carry on with their irresponsible lifestyle. I'm strongly against it.
So if I live in a socialist country with a social security system, I will be against it.
However, if I live in a free country where you are responsible for your choices, aka you fuck up, it's your problem. I have no problem with weed being legal in that case.

I want to add that the argument that "if you drink alcohol but are against weed then you are an hypocrite" is stupid. People who drink to get drunk are not socially accepted. Why should I accept someone you smoke to get high ?

I think it should be legal. It would be a good form of tax revenue, and I don't think it's as harmful as something like cigarettes.

Also, I don't smoke it so I don't care if it makes people stupid.

I actually saw a video from Huffington or some other such bullshit site saying that weed being legalised was racist because nogs who'd previously been punished for illegal possession couldn't enjoy it now that it was legal or something along those lines.

It should be legal and is much safer and healthier than alcohol aka the liquid Jew

ITT: Children yelling to other children about something they don't like. The children on the other side will yell back and nothing will be proven except the stupidity of anyone participating in this thread. Get fucked you retards.

>one good point why weed should be illegal
There is none. The only people who support prohibition are LEAs, drug dealers and dumbass statists.

The only way caffeine can be abused is as a pure substance. Coffee, tea, etc.. will not kill you. They will not even negatively affect you.

>legalize it and fuck up your life
don´t worry, the only difference will be taxing and more control of who buys it.

Sup Forums is nothing but statist shills who want freedom for themselves but also want a strong government to ban everything that they dislike.

The same people who want to burn crosses and call out the kikes are the ones wanting to ban flag burning and any dissenting opinions.

>not socially accepted
> people drinking to get drunk on every tv show day and night

ok.

Your whole post is shit.

Either retarded or trolling.

>Search Results
Coffee containing caffeine can cause insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach upset, nausea and vomiting, increased heart and breathing rate, and other side effects. Consuming large amounts of coffee might also cause headache, anxiety, agitation, ringing in the ears, and irregular heartbeats.

I don't know if I agree that it should be illegal, but if you have kids, and you're willing to risk going to jail over this trivial shit, you're a terrible fucking parent.
I can't sympathize with this

If u even bothered to read what u linked you would see there is no causation and hardly even a correlation I've never smoked weed it just never appealed to me but you are honestly a full blown retard

Yeah he's retarded. A lot of old people can't drink caffeine can give them heart problems/heart attacks. I thought everyone knew that.

You can go to a restaurant and have a beer and be fine to drive. A single beer won't have any psychoactive affect. Meanwhile, smoking pot has an immediate psychoactive release and is going to make driving more dangerous for both you and the innocent people minding their own business. Not only this, but there's no practical way to gauge the intoxication level of somebody who's been using pot. We can't do a breathalizer equivalent for marijuana. There's no way to enforce it the safety laws, meaning they're easier to undermine, therefor putting more innocents in harm's way just so dumbasses can get their high.

>muh weed is harmless
kill yourself

>people drinking to get drunk on every tv show day and night
I've never seen any autralian tv show, but I doubt that drinking is encouraged in them.
But sure, maybe in australia people being dead drunk at lunch time is widely accepted.
>your whole post is shit
not an argument :^)

Look at Kevin Smith. He's a perfect example on not to smoke weed.

Cocaine is more legal than Marijuana, even though cocaine will kill you, and is by far more addictive (physically addictive where Marijuana is no more addictive than porn, sex, or video games (psychologically addictive))

Because we have a gigantic welfare state.

>Kevin smith

Gonna need a link with that generic ass name

>You can't honestly think that marijuana should remain illegal while drugs like alcohol and tobacco are considered a-okay to consume and legal

Wrong. I would make alcohol and tobacco illegal in a heartbeat if I could, but it's just not feasible in our society.

The great thing about marijuana is that we can still suppress the degenerate faggots who use it by getting them arrested. Die, druggie faggots.

>ther than MUH DEGENERACY please make one good point why weed should be illegal

Really? Just one good point? Okay.

Currently, we have a cultural climate which wrongly says "weed is the safest plant in the world man, it can totally do no wrong, man!" which is unequivocally FALSE. This meme was generated by moronic druggies who read "marijuana cannot cause death by overdose" (true) and decided to interpret that as "marijuana cannot cause any sort of problem in any person's life EVER, ever, EVER!" because they are too fucking stoned to comprehend a simple sentence.

Marijuana has the capability to cause MANY problems in the lives of people who use it, as well as in other peoples' lives. For example:

-Car accidents.
-Workplace-related injuries.
-Non-workplace related injuries.
-Mental illness.
-Apathy.
-Underachievement.
-Degeneracy. ("I love masturbating while high!")
-Et cetera.

The biggest reason why marijuana should remain illegal is this: Fuck you, that's why. Kiss my ass, you degenerate stoner faggot.

Are you really that retarded?

Weed is the shittiest drug on the planet

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Shitty, one-note director that was only popular because he was early to the "geek culture" thing.

actually what you listed are effects of alcohol
alcohol must be made illegal and everyone who partakes must be shot

You are the shittiest Canadian.

Other more dangerous things being legal isn't a good reason for this to be legal.

However, it should be legal for other reasons. On the basis of grown ass adults don't need big brother to tell them something is bad and to jail them for doing it. We didn't make it illegal off of a health basis, because if we did then plenty of other things need to be criminalized immediately.

I broke my leg rock climbing, therefore climbing must be illegal. Because think of the poor children.

If cannabis really did turn everyone into literal bernouts then this country wouldn't be able to function, chances are you've come across a smoker in a professional position and didn't even know it. Because you like to focus on the literal stereotype and refuse to acknowledge the existence of anything but that. I don't hang around those stereotypes, therefore everyone I know that smokes cannabis are employed, go to school, have ambitions, etc.

keked really hard
drive better while high
do day-to-day tasks better while high
it makes me sharpen my concentration.
Makes it really simple to focus on one task at a time.
As for the rest its entirely up to each and every individual. Its choices. Do or not do. Weak minded people will fuck up anyhow.
Try weed, be amazed.
Also; i fell for your bait. might aswell roll a join and jack off. because its chill to take a wank while high

>We can't do a breathalizer equivalent for marijuana

Literally being developed, free market at work.

I don't keep track of celebrities, only fags do that. Fags

because you want to get high its worthless

alcohol is retarded too

Because you let government to do whatever it wants. Enjoy results.

>However, it should be legal for other reasons. On the basis of grown ass adults don't need big brother to tell them something is bad and to jail them for doing it.
Big brother > grown ass adults. Big brother could do anything. It is the main and undeniable reason to ban weed. Because big brother.

Coming from a regular smoker that's not good man, that's textbook addiction

>Coffee containing caffeine can cause insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach upset, nausea and vomiting, increased heart and breathing rate, and other side effects.

Right, and cannabis causes paranoia in people who are prone to it.

We're talking about regular & healthy population. There are no ill effects associated with the prolonged use of caffeine. None.

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honestly anyone who is dumb enough to let any drug turn them into more of a degenerate than they already are should be lynched. smoking this shit occasionally is fine but people who smoke non stop might as well be lobotomized rabbits

To be clear, I don't think anybody actually dislikes the plant. I think everybody is just tired of the cannabis crybabies who think that THC is a panacea and that it cures everything from cancer to lumbago to sciatica. The annoying in-your-facedness of these marijuana marauders is a serious detriment to their cause.

Stoner culture is retarded, too.

I got 2 businesses running with 60.000+ (EUR) monthly income. I smoke every day after work weed. I got a huge amount of friends (real friends not Sup Forums) Your argument is invalid.

I can go from smoking a joint every day for a month + then stop immediately with no side effects.

Don't you fucking dare try to take my coffee away from me though, I'll fucking kill you after a week without it.

>wanting to imprison 40-50 million people.

That's the problem with your thinking.

Do you know how implausible that is?

it's just as bad as prohibition.

You are a real retard.

Be happy you're spouting this nonsense off on a Taiwanese fish scaling forum and not out in public where everyone can see how stupid you are

That's true, I'm also a daily smoker.
Last month I made a 1 week pause without any side effects. I don't need it always but it's a nice benfit like Internet

You are a shining example of why weed should be illegal.

>I can go from smoking a joint every day for a month + then stop immediately with no side effects.

Congratulations. You are stronger than psychological addiction.

>Don't you fucking dare try to take my coffee away from me though, I'll fucking kill you after a week without it.

It's really not that hard to not have caffeine, either. I'm aware that it's addictive, but it's not exactly a hard addiction to beat.

I don't smoke weed, so you can fuck off with that argument

You mean 40-50 million people want to imprison themselves by breaking the law?

Have some personal responsibility.

and let's say we did imprison everyone that smokes marijuana, in order for prohibition to work.

It costs about $30,000 a year per person to keep people in prison. That's not even counting how many new prisons would need to be constructed, at taxpayer cost, to house all these inmates.

$30,000*40,000,000 is $1.2 trillion dollars a year.

That's double our defense budget.

That's 1.5x what social security costs us, the single most expensive item in our budget.

That's not even counting the lost revenue of not having those people working and paying taxes, but rather sitting in jail.

Whatever you say mate.

I get it, you're a pot smoker and you're buttblasted that I'm not toeing the 'dude weed' line.

I'm pro-legalization, but I'm absolutely 100% against the dude-weedisms that follow around cannabis like a bad smell. They're impossible to get rid of and they're a detriment to the cause.

I swear, people who come on here and perpetuate these crazy myths about pot having "no side effects" and "curing cancer" must be CALM/SAM astroturfers.

It's the same as alcohol prohibition, you cause more problems than you "solve" by banning a substance and trying to throw everyone in jail for using it.

You raise violent crime, you create black markets, you don't lower the use rates and you pack jails at taxpayer expense.

It's retarded and pro-prohibitionists are some of the dumbest fucking people on the planet. They're living in a fairy tale.

Like I told the aussie, I don't even smoke but i'm not even talking about weed when I'm calling you retarded.

You think there are no prolonged negative side effects from caffeine? Try taking 500-700mg a day for 6 months and go get your heart rate and blood pressure tested faggot.

People have had heart attacks and anxiety attacks from the amount of caffeine found in store bought Pre-workouts so stop this nonsense about caffeine being perfectly healthy and safe.

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>People have had heart attacks and anxiety attacks from the amount of caffeine found in store bought Pre-workouts so stop this nonsense about caffeine being perfectly healthy and safe.

As I noted, caffeine as a pure substance in dangerous, so any sort of powder mix that contains powdered caffeine is probably dangerous.

You're talking about drinking 8-10 cups of coffee a day and being worried about a moderate increase in heart rate and blood pressure. That's total nonsense. Nobody is doing that. In routine doses (a few cups of coffee/tea a day), caffeine is absolutely harmless, just like Marijuana.

>Sup Forums is one person
>being in favor of some freedoms means you have to also support others.
Autists pls.

The main argument for its legalization is in its ability to relieve the pain and reduce the symptoms of HIV/AIDS, cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy and sufferers of glaucoma to name a few. However the pain relieving effects of marijuana only last a few hours and prescribing precise dosages is near impossible since the compound that causes pain relief, THC, and the amount found in different strains and even plants of the same variety isn't consistent and affects it everyone differently.

Furthermore a more thorough application of marijuana’s undeniable medical benefits is through capsules and tinctures of refined oils with known concentrations, this method of delivery undermines that to incorporate marijuana into medicine requires smoking of it to be legalized.

Smoking marijuana causes the exact same respiratory issues as smoking any other substances so while potheads are shouting "it's healthy for you" their lungs are filling up with tar.

Medicinal marijuana encourages a culture of self-prescription and lying. People say they smoke marijuana because "it helps me sleep," "it helps my anxiety" So? taking morphine helps when I'm in pain but I don't self-prescribe and seek it out illegally.

Using marijuana to treat mental health issues is retarded escapism, in what universe is smoking yourself stupid a form of therapy for being anxious or depressed? If these people are so concerned about treating their symptoms how come they never visit doctors? Psychologists? Sleep pathologists?

The NCBI found that Cannabis intoxication can lead to acute psychosis and a later development of psychosis, on top of that point if patients have existing mental health issues such as schizophrenia, anxiety and depression they can experience worsened symptoms with use

It's no different to trans people, they indulge themselves and avoid seeking professional help like the plague because they know what they are doing is not the answer. And before anyone wants to say

>The main argument for its legalization is

liberty.

Hemp protein is pretty good.
Hemp fiber is useful for a bunch of stuff.
A lot of emerging studies are showing that it does in fact kill cancer cells.
The government has no business telling sane people what to do with their own bodies.

Recreational drug use might be pretty degenerate, but whats even more degenerate is statism. Statists are scum.

>Statists are scum.

Statism is a mental illness, 2bh.

HOLY SHIT why are all tripfags such retards???
Is it the constant need of acknowledgement and insecurity that fries your brains?

>8-10 cups of coffee
>90mg of caffeine in 1 cup of coffee
>900mg of caffeine a day
>Recommended daily intake of caffeine 200mg

That is enough to cause problems.

healthambition.com/negative-effects-of-coffee/

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Oh and let's not forget, you also create MORE POTENT product, because it's easier to smuggle in smaller volumes that give the same effect. During alcohol prohibition less people drank beer and wine and more people drank spirits, because spirits were easier to smuggle.

Remember all those statistics about the marijuana of today being 40% more potent than the weed of the 60's? Thank Prohibition for that. Prohibition is also why we have dabbing.

Had weed gained in popularity and remained legal, instead you'd have lower THC weed that was bred in strains for flavor instead of how powerful of a high it gets, it'd frankly be like microbrewing or winemaking. People don't make wine and beer for fucking you up as fast as possible, they make drinks that they like the taste of that go down smooth.

Marijuana would be the same, and in states that have legalized it, that trend is starting to happen. People don't always want to smoke and get completely stoned out of their gourd. Sometimes, they'd like a lighter more flavorful smoke that just relaxes them a little after work.

As you push towards legalization, potency of consumer Marijuana will go down for the most part, quality will go up, tax revenue will go up.

good.is/articles/colorados-higher-taxes
money.cnn.com/2015/03/02/pf/taxes/colorado-pot-tax-refund/

Colorado raised so much money from weed that it has a budget surplus.

That means they can cut state income taxes for everyone else.